"You don't smell good" Thanks our programming that causes severe depression and rapid splitting/switching got triggered and we can hardly do anything but I'm glad you noticed how we smell ! (asshole) -Husker
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➜ @ a term for an alter who isn’t the core/original, but rather the remains/remnants of “who it was” (aka, who was told they are by abvsers) or whatever was left of the core who intergrated with fragments.
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reminder that when you see sysmeds bitching about non-disordered plurals and claim to “have experience in the field”, they are not qualified psychologists.
it’s always the psych major and never the psychologist ranting about these things.
because psychologists don’t care. they’re adults. they have lives. they’re not chronically online like sysmeds are.
i don’t care if you “have experience in the field”. if you don’t have a masters in psychology, your “experience in the field” and “majoring in psych” means fucking nothing. you’re just a pissy, chronically online 18 year old with nothing better to do and your opinion will never matter.
with love, a HC-DID system with:
a mother who has a masters in psych, a father who has a masters in psych, a sister who has honours in psych and a counselling degree, and three aunts with masters in psych and two uncles with bachelors in psych.
and guess what? NONE OF THEM CARE ABOUT SYSTEM DISCOURSE. they don’t care about origins. they have ALL told me after i asked, “if they think they’re multiple, who am i to argue? if they’re not my client, it doesn’t matter”.
because adults with lives do not care. and they never will. the ONLY people who care are the bitchy, unloved 14-20 year olds who have too much confidence that their shitty online behaviour won’t get caught
I saw a post that disgruntled me enough to want to talk about this, so here we are. There seems to be a heavy amount of misinformation on what "counts" as OEA, often excluding adult victims and non-programmed victims. So, within this post, we'll go over what the terms "OA, MC, and RA" mean, as well as commonly construed myths.
Organized Abuse
all-encompassing.
Organized abuse is a wide term that includes experiences of ritual abuse and mind control but is in no way exclusive to them. Often, only organized child sexual abuse is mentioned, which leaves out a lot of experiences it includes.
The most simple definition of organized abuse is "Abuse that involves a number of people doing something together in a pre-planned and/or structured way, rather than acting alone." In short terms, abuse done by multiple people in a planned way. [1]
All groups under the RAMCOA/OEA label will fall under this category. This includes, but is not limited to, Cults, Trafficking Rings, Labor Camps, "Troubled Teen" Camps, Intra-Familial Organized Abuse, and other experiences that fall under this definition. This includes victims indoctrinated into cults, trafficked, or otherwise abused as adults, as well as children born or brought into it. Location of the abuse (at home, in a church, at school, at a daycare, etc) doesn't matter, and someone does not have to go through ritual abuse or mind control to have experienced organized abuse.
Ritual Abuse
not inherently satanic.
Ritual abuse is a term often confused with SRA, or "Satanic Ritual Abuse," an outdated and often harmful label for forms of organized extreme abuse. Not all forms of organized abuse are ritual abuse.
Ritual abuse can be defined as "Abuse that occurs in a context where symbols or activities have superstitious, supernatural, or religious connotations. It is organised, often involving multiple perpetrators, and the abuse often happens as part of a rite or ceremony." Alternatively, the word 'ritual' refers to "a rite, ceremony or pseudo- religious service which involves a series of actions performed in a fixed order and/or at certain times; something that is done in the same way whenever a particular situation occurs." [1] [2]
Because of this, ritual abuse can be defined while including spiritual themes and non spiritual themes. So, many definitions include other forms of abuse that is ritualized/specifically repeated in nature, such as on a specific day or time or in a specific order.
This type of abuse is most dominated in literature by satanic overtones, once again from the term SRA. However, this is not exclusive to satanic cults. Any group based on a belief system or using other reoccurring themes/abuse can perpetrate ritual abuse. Though ritual abuse is also more commonly linked with mind control and child abuse, programming and age have no impact on if an experience is ritual abuse or not.
Survivors of ritual abuse include things like ritualistic ceremonies, games, symbols, set-ups, abuse on specific days/holidays, abuse in a specific order, etc as common experiences.
Mind Control
programming and beyond
Mind control tends to be the term that receives the most problems, as many people tend to only think of programming when hearing it. However, MC is not exclusive to programming survivors, and many types of MC have been recognized.
A good definition of MC is "Methods of thought reform to force submission or information from enemies and victims, or to indoctrinate and increase cooperation in members and captors," and is a synonym to coersive persuasion, defined as "attempts to force people to change beliefs, ideas, attitudes or behaviors using psychological pressure, undue influence, threats, anxiety, and/or intimidation." [3] [4]
Programming is an example of the far end of mind control, a severe form of conditioning. However, things such as cult and religious indoctrination, psychic driving, terrified submission, etc, are all also forms of MC that can occur within organized abuse. MC is not exclusive to child victims, as most forms of MC can be performed at any age.
Thank you for reading. If you have any questions or additions, feel free to send an ask or reply to this post. A reminder that I am not a professional, I am flawed, and I am just doing my best.
Hello !! i'm, anti-endo but i'm looking to understand the endogenic perspective, which is why i am calling for all endogenic or non traumagenic systems && supporters !!
I, as an anti / sysmed, am looking to have a civil, respectful, structured debate about this topic
AND i would like to ask questions to understand the topic more !!
if you are interested, add me on discord ;; _beamerboy
yes im genuinely looking to have a conversation with an endogenic system. no this is not a trick. yes you are safe. i have never spoken to a non traumagenic system as a diagnosed DID system, which is why i am interested.
