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So, when did humans first figure out hurricanes were shaped like that? They're too big for it to be obvious from the ground and I imagine the realization must have been quite a cool "ooohh..." moment.

phaeton-flier

The eye would be a known thing, right? "Sometimes the hurricane stops but you need to not stray too far from safety, because it can come back quick, and then it will last about as long again"

After that, a few people talk about whether they got the stop in the middle, and that the stop is near the worst of the wind, you can determine it's probably near the center

centrally-unplanned

I think this one has a clear answer, fortunately! In 1831, William C. Redfield published the results of his study of the damage of an 1821 hurricane in Connecticut. He mapped out the directions that the trees fell, and the "lines" of damage that the storm had left, and proposed that the storm must be a cyclical vortex to account for it all. It was definitively a debated idea at the time, so there was no clear consensus on what hurricanes "were" before then; as more evidence piled up the circular model won out.

Not disputing ofc that some knowledge and ideas predated this moment - they clearly did, in particular sailors had been managing hurricane risk for centuries and had a bunch of applied knowledge. But a systematized understanding of the "shape of a hurricane" can I think be dated to that paper.

(At least in the Eurosphere, the evolution of the idea in other cultural groupings is beyond my knowledge)

argumate

the fact that we can simply see them from space now is wild

actually how good a view did terrestrial telescopes have of Jupiter’s red spot before satellites? did we see interplanetary cyclones before our own?

femmenietzsche

Donato Creti's 1711 painting "Jupiter", the first depiction of a large spot on Jupiter as red

Back before Woke, Jupiter was as large as the Moon

argumate

goddamn, we saw alien planets before we truly saw our own, Blue Marble was taken in 1972

shocked--kwarrtz

True, though the first image of the Earth from space was 1946 (on a V-2 rocket), and the first full-disk, color images were 1967 (DODGE and ATS-3).

argumate

banger for humanity, arguably more of an achievement than landing on the moon

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yamada-ryo

I've never seen one of these class signs be a whole ass sphere before

Something that gave H.P. Lovecraft nightmares is the work of my favorite artist. In "At the Mountains of Madness" he specifically mentions "the strange and disturbing Asian paintings of Nicholas Roerich."

This is what Roerich's paintings look like:

chaifootsteps

#hp lovecraft thought penguins were grotesque and horrifying#he was not a difficult man to frighten

weaver-z

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britnxyspears

Burnie Sandals

shitposting-hobbits-to-gallifrey

Let’s also talk about the fact that the second line of the first post says “I feel like the white eminem” but eminem is white

hotsaucebear

Guess again

yaldabaothadeez

These crow lady comics, that I can only trace to “some anon on 4chan”

xander-the-bastard

I’ve got a few more saved

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urie

im about to catsit next month for a (lovingly) crazy woman who is so deeply obsessed with her cat's care its touching truly. he needs insulin shots and she is telling me that shes going to send voice notes to my phone of her saying "copo! baby! its time for your insulin!" "come here handsome!" "its insulin time sweetie!" so that he feels safe getting his insulin from a stranger. im like girl i love it. i love this

urie

she was telling me yesterday "sometimes i look at him and he looks at me and i feel like we can hear each other's thoughts. is that crazy" and i was like "no of course not"

valtsv

"here's my original character, Man Who Sucks But Loves His Daughter Very Much" and it's a guy who worships at the altar of patriarchal violence and the woman he uses as an excuse and an effigy to absolve him

valtsv

well i think his daughter should tell him to kill himself

zara2148

Context for this reply:

cosmovain

is it weird if i say i genuinely wish there was more positivity aimed at people w large chests

cosmovain

"having a large chest is the beauty standard" no having a large chest is the Sexual standard theres a difference. i can only even be Hot and everything i ever wear will be deemed too sexual for every single situation. tank top shows too much cleavege or side boob a button up is always too busty and a crop top will always show too much skin. having a large chest leads to so much back pain and sexualization and complaining about it makes people go "ahh grass is alwahs greener/you are the beauty standard, why complain?" like genuinely i urge yall to watch anything with a larger chested woman and notice, REALLY notice, that her chest is her entire personality. notice that people critiqing misogynist charavter designs alwayd tend to rally in the statement that large chest=misogny, casting aside the Many Many Many women and people who look like Me and just . have a large chest? and exist? and deserve respect and not to be seen as nothing more than a sex symbol by both sides? idk ikdayy

dragonomatopoeia

i've died on smaller hills, so i can't judge. but i do think it's funny whenever posts about the proper definition of a poor little meow meow circulate, considering none of them mention that the origin was a kpop fan's absolutely bonkers tweet about not being able to protect a full grown man who was getting backlash for including audio from the jonestown cult leader jim jones in one of his songs

emi--rose

I was clearly not at the devils sacrament what the fuck

sambuchito

genia!!!

bisexual-space-cowboy

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eraserheadadult

the situation with harry potter is kind of unprecedented in some ways imo because it is maybe the largest media franchise in history to be created & owned by a single person who still has direct creative control over it. who is also a billionaire with significant cultural/political influence. like the usual "no ethical consumption under capitalism" type excuses shatter on impact when the bigoted author in question is logging onto twitter every day saying explicitly that when you buy the tim hortons ravenclaw donut she is using your donut money to fund the genocide of trans people. like with big franchises usually there's at least a little more diffusion of responsibility than this

probablyasocialecologist

Correcting the Historical Bias Against Domestic Materials

Archaeology has traditionally had a fundamental bias against fabric. Fabrics are after all highly perishable, withering away within months or years, and only rarely leaving traces behind for those coming millennia later to find. Archaeologists—predominantly male—gave ancient ages names like “Iron” and “Bronze,” rather than “Pottery” or “Flax.” This implies that metal objects were the principal features of these times, when they are simply often the most visible and long-lasting remnants. Technologies using perishable materials, such as wood and textiles, may well have been more pivotal in the daily lives of the people who lived through them, but evidence of their existence has, for the most part, been absorbed back into the earth.

There are exceptions, of course, and traces can and do survive, usually thanks to an unusual climate: freezing, damp anaerobic conditions or extremely dry ones. The climate in Egypt, for example, is ideal for preserving all manner of usually perishable things and we subsequently know far more about ancient Egyptian textiles than those from most other regions. As archaeology has matured and diversified, scholars have increasingly looked for—and found—evidence of fine, complex textiles stretching farther back than anyone would have guessed. Their beauty and the skill needed to make them suggest a very different image of our earliest forebears than the club-wielding, simpleminded thugs of popular imagination.

reasonsforhope

“The first cultural device was probably a recipient… . Many theorizers feel that the earliest cultural inventions must have been a container to hold gathered products and some kind of sling or net carrier. So says Elizabeth Fisher in Women’s Creation (McGraw-Hill, 1975). But no, this cannot be. Where is that wonderful, big, long, hard thing, a bone, I believe, that the Ape Man first bashed somebody with in the movie and then, grunting with ecstasy at having achieved the first proper murder, flung up into the sky, and whirling there it became a space ship thrusting its way into the cosmos to fertilize it and produce at the end of the movie a lovely fetus, a boy of course, drifting around the Milky Way without (oddly enough) any womb, any matrix at all? I don’t know. I don ’t even care. I’m not telling that story. We’ve heard it, we’ve all heard all about all the sticks and spears and swords, the things to bash and poke and hit with, the long, hard things, but we have not heard about the thing to put things in, the container for the thing contained. That is a new story. That is news. And yet old. Before—once you think about it, surely long before—the weapon, a late, luxurious, superfluous tool; long before the useful knife and ax; right along with the indispensable whacker, grinder, and digger—for what’s the use of digging up a lot of potatoes if you have nothing to lug the ones you can’t eat home in—with or before the tool that forces energy outward, we made the tool that brings energy home. It makes sense to me. I am an adherent of what Fisher calls the Carrier Bag Theory of human evolution. This theory not only explains large areas of theoretical obscurity and avoids large areas of theoretical nonsense (inhabited largely by tigers, foxes, and other highly territorial mammals); it also grounds me, personally, in human culture in a way I never felt grounded before. So long as culture was explained as originating from and elaborating upon the use of long, hard objects for sticking, bashing, and killing, I never thought that I had, or wanted, any particular share in it. (“What Freud mistook for her lack of civilization is woman’s lack of loyalty to civilization,” Lillian Smith observed.) The society, the civilization they were talking about, these theoreticians, was evidently theirs; they owned it, they liked it; they were human, fully human, bashing, sticking, thrusting, killing. Wanting to be human too, I sought for evidence that I was; but if that’s what it took, to make a weapon and kill with it, then evidently I was either extremely defective as a human being, or not human at all… . If it is a human thing to do to put something you want, because it’s useful, edible, or beautiful, into a bag, or a basket, or a bit of rolled bark or leaf, or a net woven of your own hair, or what have you, and then take it home with you, home being another, larger kind of pouch or bag, a container for people, and then later on you take it out and eat it or share it or store it up for winter in a solider container or put it in the medicine bundle or the shrine or the museum, the holy place, the area that contains what is sacred, and then next day you probably do much the same again—if to do that is human, if that’s what it takes, then I am a human being after all. Fully, freely, gladly, for the first time.“

—Ursula K. Le Guin, "The Carrier Bag Theory of Fiction” (1986)

headspace-hotel

It’s crazy how there is so much bias in how we see the past and the "advancement” of civilizations purely based on how well the remnants preserve in the climates they were in.

A civilization that built structures out of stone is assumed greater than a civilization that built structures out of wood or some biodegradable material

This makes me think of Rivercane (Arundinaria spp. our native bamboo which was almost wiped out in colonization similar to what happened to the Bison) and how it was used universally by the peoples of the Southeastern USA for every tool, structure, furniture etc imaginable: bedframes, waterproof mats for roofs, backpacks, sieves, shields, torches, sharp splits for quick-and-dirty butchering knives…

when the spanish first came here randomly roaming and murdering people all over the place they reported that the country was so populated that you could be in one town and see the smoke of the campfires of other towns on the horizons.

now bamboo by weight is stronger than steel, and Rivercane is one of the stronger species of bamboo. Bamboo-working in southeastern USA pre-colonization was crazy advanced. And you could use a split of Rivercane as a butchering knife in a pinch, and you could also use sharpened pieces as arrows without a stone projectile point at all. So there were all these useful objects and tools and constructions that were able to simply biodegrade away.

So people nowadays often assume there was hardly anybody here before white people showed up just because they don’t see all the constructions and temples and stuff.

What’s even crazier is you DO see the constructions all around you, literally the town I live in was built on top of an Indigenous town and many roads around it and leading to it were Indigenous roads.

(And there were quite a few stone constructions, but colonizers have been running wild all over the place so long that they’ve been knocked down and you literally couldn’t identify the ruins unless you thought “hey wait these stones don’t belong here, they had to be quarried and brought here” And in a lot of cases the locations of such ruins are not popularly discussed because looting and desecration of Indigenous sites is such a huge problem if anybody knows.)

(it’s so crazy actually in the history of Kentucky specifically like historical writers in the 1800’s had this theory that indigenous people had replaced this ancient civilization of white people that built all the stone stuff and made all the pottery and things. but now that the remnants are no longer as visible, the most popular falsehood is that NO ONE lived in Kentucky and it was just ‘hunting grounds.’ which is not true. its like people want to believe anything except that indigenous people were and are indigenous to this place)

partywithponies

My woke take, as someone who has worked in both a public library and a school library, is that we desperately need both more books that are at a higher reading level but a less mature subject matter, and more books that are at a lower reading level but a more mature subject matter, because 8 year olds who are advanced readers are still 8 year olds and don't want to read about graphic violence and torture, and teens and adults who have learning difficulties or who are just later readers for whatever reason are still teens and adults and don't want to read about Billy the Bunny going to school or whatever the hell.

partywithponies

Shoutout to people in the notes also mentioning people learning the language, I should've mentioned that really, given that I've been stuck reading German picture books myself while learning German.

onceandfuturehighpriestess

fictionadventurer

Reading old books gets an extra layer of fun when you start to piece together how all these historical eras run together. The heroes of one era become the stodgy out-of-touch parents of the next. 1920s Bright Young Things are calling people "Victorians" in an "okay, Boomer" way. Victorian novels have Regency rakes hanging around like old hippies. Regency novels have old Georgians who still powder their hair. It's just fun to see the mixing of generations, the mix of old and new, because history's not neat little boxes, it's life all jumbled together.

jabbage

I can't get enough of middle aged people in the 1930s speaking nostalgically about their youths in "The Nineties"

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eldritchbauble

Oh they're being very direct about trying to push puritanical values now. Which was always the basis for fatphobia but they usually don't say that part.

eldritchbauble

I didn't have Christian weight loss ads on my 2026 bingo card, but, really. I should've known.

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