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Ive got to say, its really fucking disturbing watching people try to repackage classic binarist rhetoric of "some nonbinaries are transfem and some are transmasc and there is literally no other kind of nonbinary person" as some kind of new, innovative, intersectional theory instead of classic exorsexism and trying to frame all objectors as just "trying to deny their privilege" i think a lot of you would fall for the ace discourse again if someone rebranded it correctly.
btw for the record I have always hated the way people used "transfem" and "transmasc" to basically mean "trans women lite" and "trans men lite" and its good to see we have reached the logical conclusion of what that usage looks like. Now there is literally no category of nonbinary person at all but "trans womanish" or "trans manish." Congratulations. Peak binary brainworms saturation. Its so cool that people care so fucking little about genderqueer lib they will invent Binarism 2.
like the way so many people talk about the ‘problems with poly relationships’ makes me feel bad for not only their monogamous partners but even their close friends and their damn kids, bc they’ll just be listing shit that comes down to emotional maturity and compassion everyone should be growing and exercising in EVERY relationship
"they should be making out instead of fighting" isn't even a dog whistle. it's literally men saying that women should stop standing up for ourselves and instead service men sexually. we're not "dividing the community". we're leaving you and your bullshit behind, and you're taking it like.... well, like abusive men always take a breakup: poorly.
and for those keeping score at home: this is what is meant by "rape culture". it's not about trans women encouraging other girls to break out of our shells. it's not about writing horny fic to take agency over the sexual violence done to us by every institution around us, including the family. it's about being sexualized to the point that our fully clothed selfies get us banned and kicked off of the site and being blamed for the abuse that inevitably seeks us out for refusing to be a quiet little fuckdoll who crawls out of the closet only when beckoned for.
The funniest thing about biphobia is that when it's directed towards men it's just homophobia and when it's directed towards women it's just misogyny. But the woke kind so it's actually okay
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trans women specifically are so hated that getting mistaken for a trans woman is dangerous. thank god all of us can clear up that we aren't trans women to defuse that tension a little bit, thank god we can all fall back on not being trans women when it comes to legal matters. imagine if you couldn't do that. sure would suck if there was a type of person who couldn't do that. glad none of us are like that though.
I'm Glad We're All Equally Susceptible To Being MISTAKEN For Trans Women. Truly We Are All Faggots In The Eyes Of The State.
i desperately wanna give as much benefit of the doubt here, because i wrote this post so simple as to be impossible to misunderstand. or atleast i thought i did.
i want to believe that i'm the stupid one here. that i'm missing some sarcasm or something.
i do not know how i can make it clearer that even if you are occassionally mistaken for a trans woman under certain circumstances, that there are larger structural forces at play that you are *not* subjected to. that's what this post is about. it's not hard to understand.
can people in the notes please read this post and see what it is about. please. please.
As a trans man, I've been followed into the men's bathroom. I've had coworkers stalk me in the bathroom and report back to my manager. I've been harassed in men's bathrooms. I've been harassed in women's bathrooms (before I came out). I've almost been assaulted in public bathrooms.
"Men's bathrooms aren't policed like women's bathrooms" is straight up a fucking lie. Using the bathroom as a PASSING trans man is unsafe. Can't piss standing up? Ever heard a cis man loudly comment about you pissing sitting down in a public restroom?
Again, bathroom bills may SEEM targeted, but it hurts us all. Trying to force trans men into women's bathrooms, to cut them off from men's restrooms- it does a lot of the same shit it does to trans women.
Except now no one wants to consider this. At most even other trans guys will make the joke "oh so you want a big hairy buff trans man going to the women's shitter?" No. Actually. They WANT more of a reason to beat me into the tile floor. These laws are used to make that easy to sweep under the rug.
This one kinda pissed me off so I'll expand my initial reply here...
1. Note the reply-er (cannanine) assumes dogs know what "man" and "woman" are. There's no clean break definition as anyone can tell you, even biologically, which leads me to...
2. Poster assumes all trans women have the hormone levels of cis men. Wrong. So the dog will smell your REAL gender excuses can fuck right off.
3. Poster assumes all trans women have "male" genitals, i.e a penis. Wrong. Many of us get bottom surgery.
4. Notice the language around "hormonal makeup". The poster treats it like literal make-up, meaning she thinks a trans woman is just her hrt which is either on or off. No questioning about cis women with high t or on menopause, just "it can tell you're a tranns if it smells ur hrt". Cis women get hrt too nicole.
5. In the end, Cannanine here has just summed up stealth transmisogyny very neatly actually: Using the seemingly objective position of animals and nature as a tool to re-inforce a gender binary. Notice her invoking the "incredible sense of smell" a dog has, so strong it can tell your TRUE gender. The dog can't smell a gender Stacy, it doesn't know what they are!!
I'll stop with my list of Cannanine's stealth transmisogyny here. (i didn't @ her for a reason, leave her alone). I'll just say why this pisses me off. It's just a bs appeal to nature again.
This is crazy-making cuz I can see dogs EASILY being used against trans women by law enforcement. The same way k-9 units are trained for attacking things cops THINK black people are like. This is literally what white supremacists did to black people. Like I'm sorry but ur doing the thing, pretending that there's a higher being you can point to that will tell you the REAL gender of the "dangerous tranny" and in this case it's a fucking dog. You've invented the transmisogyny dog. Being black, I can tell you that racist people have racist dogs. I can tell when a dog is uncomfortable around black people..... It's cuz they're trained to be. Even if unknowingly by their owners. That's most likely what happened with the dog owner. The dog doesn't magically smell back in time to when the doctor assigned people's gender and psychically linked with her owner like Drifting in Pacific Rim and chose to dislike the ones her owner ASSUMES are trans women. Christ, I am so tired of this. Please stop. Learn to use critical thinking please.
Here's my original reply to Cannanine in the thread, cuz I can't find it anymore on mobile. Could be it's deleted, could be tumblr's code sucks, either way its here:
(You're anthropomorphising. It can't read a cis man as "man" either or whatever else. Ur creating categories where a dog's experience isn't human. You're applying human concepts to an animal that doesn't have the ability to do the same. To even talk about this is to apply human concepts to it, watch i do it here:
It can Identify when it's owner acts differently around certain people who give it smells that seem similar though, which I assume is why this dog doesn't like smelling non estrogenized bodies. So even taking the excuse of "it's smelling your hormones through your sweat" doesn't make sense cuz trans women have comparable levels of estrogen to cis women if they're medically transitioning. This owner has probably trained her dog to be uncomfortable around trans women. I know racist people's dogs don't like black people. I don't need to invent the concept of dog color spectrum analysis to explain the obvious thing happening there. Like YOU be so fucking fr.)
Your tag "when you're trans, both masculinity and femininity become weapons against you at any given moment" really resonated with me. Its a powerful and succint way of saying it
I also often say trans people regardless of actual identity are schroedinger's gender- you are whatever gender is convenient for the person hurting you to harm you with at any given moment. If they believe calling you a woman will hurt you, they'll use that. If a man, they'll use that instead. If they can completely degender you, they will. And it will change based on the second, many times.
TERFs have begun using “hygienic” to mean cis because they’re fucking weirdos who think trans people don’t take baths
I’ve been collecting these screenshots for months to prove my point, this is an actual thing they’re doing and I feel that by now I have enough proof to be making this post. If you see someone calling themselves hygienic in their blog description, that’s what they mean. They mean they’re openly transphobic. And a fucking weirdo who assumes trans people don’t bathe for some reason.
No I’m not censoring the urls, all of these people can go fuck themselves! Block, don’t harass 💙🖤
They’re litterally not even trying to hide it anymore. i dont usually reblog posts like this but this is important to warn people about. this is why transmisogynists like this should never be given a platform nor should you ever argue with them or talk to them. because that is exactly what they want.
yeah they don’t mean trans people done take baths. they mean trans people are inherently dirty, as in, our genes are dirty. this is eugenicist and Nazi rhetoric y'all
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'But asexuals are so harmless why would she come after them/us?' I mean apart from the fact trans people, intersex people and people of colour aren't harmful either and oppression isn't because a group deserved it and marginalised people don't need to be morally pure to not be discriminated against, no asexuality isn't harmless in conservatives' eyes. In an ideology where cis heterosexual marriage and sex for reproduction is seen as mandatory you having little to no sexual attraction ruins the whole set up. You can't 'be fruitful and multiply' in the way god intended. You have a nonsexuality that isn't being forced onto you by them. You're not repressing your desire in the name of god because you barely have any. You have control over your own body and you aren't supposed to do that. You're spitting in the face of conservative sexual and gender roles just by existing. Spit harder!
Let's make things awkward by addressing the elephant in the room: Certain asexuals are reacting this way a la 'but EYE didn't do anything!' because they don't see themselves as worthy of queerphobic backlash. They see themselves as "normal". For them asexuality is only a minor part of how they navigate sex and sexuality because their other identites, usually being cis, white and/or straight, allow them to participate in conventional sexuality and romance (most of the time). Asexuals of colour, trans and non-binary asexuals, aroace activists and gay asexuals have been saying over and over and over that asexual activism will always and must always be tied to every other issue including the rest of the queer community not only because our sexualities will never be seen as 'normal' and so, we'll never have an acceptable asexuality, but that their struggles will always be connected to asexuality in some way. We can't talk about things like corrective rape without addressing the lesbian struggle. We can't talk about the alienation of asexual men from conventional manhood and conversion therapy without addressing gay men's struggle with the exact same thing. We can't talk about erasure based on identity without also talking about bisexual erasure. We can't talk about literal TERFs without addressing transphobia and the ongoing trans genocide. And yet, certain asexuals said this wasn't our issue and we should focus on asexuality only. They're not a sex and romance obsessed queer like #them so they're "safe". 'We don't need pride/representation/rights its not our issue' Because it wasn't *their* issue. So when Joanne swung at the community, they felt hurt. They're supposed to be 'normal'.
There's also too many 'allies' that can only see nonsexuality in puritan contexts. They have an extremely underbaked, undercooked and unseasoned view of asexuality that hasn't gone beyond the scope of 'the a isn't for ally'. They have no clue on the most basic of asexual theory so that's why they're doing up 'but uwu aces didn't do anything' cus they haven't done the homework. We are doing things babes but you haven't read up about it bc you see asexuality as nothing but an add on to the acroynym or the queer 101 powerpoint instead of an identity with a queer feminist history. When Ben Shapiro said asexuality was a social contagion he wasn't saying that shit as a compliment babes.
You lot thought that the protections from your privileged identities were gonna shield you and it didn't work. You thought Joanne was only gonna come for the weirdo queers and you would've been 100% okay if she only did that but she didn't. She swang at you too. Instead of complaining she hit the wrong people, help us hit back.
Anti-asexual discourse has always been a canary in the mine when it comes to anti-LGBTQ stances. First it's trans people, than ace people, then gender non-conforming people, then bi people... it will just keep going until it's every queer person.
I looked up the tweet to confirm it was real (because even now it was shocking), and she doubles down (as she always does) in follow up tweets.
JK Rowling has targeted asexuals on International Asexuality Day, branding it: 'Happy International Fake Oppression Day'
It’s always felt like the way TERFs hate Asexuals is related to the fact that we kinda fuck with their narrative by existing.
They can’t spread transphobia on the back of gender essentialism that says people with penises are animals with no impulse control, if simultaneously it’s generally understood that some people (which includes some people with penises) just don’t have that sexual impulse.
If asexuality is real then a lot of Radfem rhetoric starts falling apart.
It's so common that intersex teens online need to add disclaimers like this to their posts discussing being intersex, I've seen so many disclaimers similar to this on here as well as tik tok.
It just makes me so unbelievably sad that people do not respect us. They just don't. We're sexual objects or deformed freaks to most perisex people. It makes me so sad that we can't even talk about our lives online without being seen as walking fetish material.
can people like. chill out about queer terminology that they don't personally enjoy. "ugh I hate these new tenderqueer vocab words like 'mx' 'nibling' 'sapphic' 'mlm' 🤢🤢🤢 they're so infantilizing just call me a slur" so fun fact you don't actually have to call yourself words just because they exist and other people use them. some of the ones I see people hate on most often as ~tumblrcore mogai cringe~ aren't even particularly new, sapphic is from the 1890s and nibling is from the 1950s. achillean was coined in 2018, but, like, who cares. why does that matter. sometimes people invent words to suit new niches. there is nothing inherently childlike about any of these words, those associations came from you, You Have Internalized Queerphobia.
#correction: achillean is older than that!#the wiktionary entry's earliest citation is from 1980#and doing some more quick googling (could be wrong grain of salt lol) it SEEMS like the earliest use of the term was#by john addington symonds in 1883#it gained more popularity recently but its been around for a while (via @boydykedevo)
good correction! I got the 2018 date in a #dyslexiamoment reading the wikipedia page for achillean and my eyes totally missed that that was the creation date for "vincian" instead, whoopsie.
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ill be real the "poly people are uglyyy" thing just feels like cope? like theyre in a polycule. they have directly proven that multiple people find them hot enough to want to be in a relationship, often sexual, with. you have what? one single Monogamous Jessica, and you're terrified she'll leave you as soon as she sees a rooster with bigger tail feathers?
BLESS ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, INDIA DIDN’T STRIKE DOWN ITS LAW THAT CRIMINALIZED GAY SEX UNTIL 2018, THIS PRIDE TOOK PLACE BEFORE THAT, THESE PEOPLE WERE BRAVE AS FUCK
Y’all ever notice how aphobes always say stuff like “GUHRR YOU WERRNT AT ALL THE DANGEROUS AND IMPORTANT HISTORY SO YOU CANT BE HERE NOW HUGN” but when aspec people ARE at important events putting their neck out alongside the rest of the community to fight for acceptance, aphobes are disgusted with that too
Like. Y’all are just proving the only reason y’all don’t want aspec people in the community is that y’all just hate us lmao.
They wanted to vomit because seeing Asexuals be brown people at a brown Pride event in a brown country subverts and unspools so much bullshit they wrap themselves in.
People have reblogged this post to complain about “queer” on the signs, about asexuals attending Pride, about religious quotes used in support of LGBT, about “the guy with the turban.” It’s all the same ugliness. Congrats, if you’ve complained about any of the above, you’re in a Venn diagram overlap with white supremacist Trump voters.