Hello. I'd like to ask, do you think Sherlock and Bond had romantic feelings for eachother at some point? Were the feelings Mycroft talked about romantic (like stated in the eng translation)? I don't know if ch. 60 was something (the cigarette falling, the empty eyes and Sherlock's kind of dodging the question "did your heart skip a beat?") but I can't wrap my head around it. There's been an argument on twt on a one year old interview with Miyoshi sensei (1/2)
in which she said that Sherlock and Irene's relationship was "like a first love, bittersweet and special." ( 初恋のようでもありどこか湿っぽくて特別なふたりの ).People mentioned that in the japanese phrasing it sounds like a metaphor but I only read the translation so I have no idea. I was surprised, since Sherlock said more than once that he isn't attracted to women. Someone said the manga stated it to affirm the difference of him before Bond vs after Bond but I don't believe that at all. Thank you.
It's definitely a comparison. It's more like "Something kind of puppy love-ish in some ways." Miyoshi didn't say it is puppy love at all. It's more like me saying, "It's kinda like that feeling you get when your favorite soda gets discontinued and you realize you can't ever have it again and that last can in your fridge is the last one you'll ever have" to describe something.
I haven't really read most of Viz's translations much, or the scanlations, so I don't know what you're actually talking about RE: Mycroft.
I think it's like...Bond is happily a man, and likely genderfluid based on his portrayal thus far. But it's also true that Adler lost a lot by becoming Bond, and Sherlock is a strong memory of a different time with different possibilities. Bond lost their friendship and connection to Sherlock in a lot of ways after transitioning. They lost their previous identity and everything that was built around it.
So...yeah, that sounds to me like puppy love that never went anywhere and you can't get back, but you think back about wistfully. In a deeply unromantic sense. Sherlock is a reminder of a different time for Bond, and Bond is a reminder of very important moment in time for Sherlock.
I have gone on record repeatedly, even after chapter 60, about how I don't think their relationship was remotely romantic. And I still don't think it was or is.
Sherlock and Irene/Bond's relationship has always been built on affection and teasing. And he didn't remotely dodge the question of if his heart went "Doki doki." He flat out said, "What?! Nothing like that happened!" And Bond responded with, "Aw, you're so cold." And then Sherlock is basically like "Will you stop fucking with me already?"
The question about Sherlock getting mushy about it was also after a very brief and vulnerable moment between the two of them, so it was basically Bond immediately going, "Well enough of that gross shit, let's lighten the mood by screwing with you."
Basically the scene was as follows: Sherlock nearly called Bond Irene, and Irene/Bond, in the character profiles, mentions that they get "shy" when Sherlock or John calls them that because it's an embarrassing little fluster of a former self and a vulnerable place and they don't really like that they get Like That about something so silly. Sherlock said they didn't need to, and Bond went, "Can't we just stand here like this for a second?" and got all quiet and sad again before literally changing the subject to something easier: that is, the concept of them being romantically entangled.
Also, as an aro person, there were definitely times growing up where I thought I had a crush on someone or was "in love" with someone that was just. Not actually what was happening (it was usually squishes or kinning something way too hard). So I also think it could also have been something a bit like that.
This is just something people are never going to let die.
