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I’m sorry but….this is hilarious to me😂. Zuko literally leaving his fighting pose to yell at his little sister is both so in character and such a sibling move.
#I hope the live action gives us lots of them being siblings#that was such a sibling way to yell it too - @autisticspider-girl
I hope so too. It seems like there's at least one extra scene because Azula comes in saying "I'm not finished with you" talking to Zuko, like they were having a conversation and he left when he saw Aang. I don't know but I'm with you. I really hope that there are more sibling moments between these two though.
Honestly as much as I’m kinda meh overall about the live action, Dallas Liu as Zuko absolutely killed it as Zuko in the first season, and was probably the highlight of the whole thing (his little avatar hunting diary 😭). And I think they did a good job adding some compelling stuff to the fire nation royal family (Zuko talking to Iroh at his son’s funeral), so I wouldn’t be surprised if they give us some good sibling content.
It is one of the advantages to the live action show that they know where the story is going for all the characters. They know Azula is going to be really important so they’re adding more scenes with her and giving her more of a character which I love. I really like them bringing in some new original scenes for the characters. Also, I agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some new scenes for the Fire siblings this season.
I love that I mostly put up this poll for fun and because I had the tiniest of ideas and now I actually have real thoughts that I gotta find time to develop.
I’m sorry but….this is hilarious to me😂. Zuko literally leaving his fighting pose to yell at his little sister is both so in character and such a sibling move.
#I hope the live action gives us lots of them being siblings#that was such a sibling way to yell it too - @autisticspider-girl
I hope so too. It seems like there's at least one extra scene because Azula comes in saying "I'm not finished with you" talking to Zuko, like they were having a conversation and he left when he saw Aang. I don't know but I'm with you. I really hope that there are more sibling moments between these two though.
I’m sorry but….this is hilarious to me😂. Zuko literally leaving his fighting pose to yell at his little sister is both so in character and such a sibling move.
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Does celine as an adult tell the girls she’s a wolf shifter (either before or after the idol awards) in the wolf shifter au?
So I think after debute and before Miyeong died, Celine's favorite mentor -- her second mother, if she was being honest -- died. Her other two mentors had always been a little more leery of Celine shifting so she tried to limit it around them.
When Miyeong and Third died, Celine just fell apart. She shifted into a wolf and just disappeared for months after leaving baby Rumi with the (remaining) mentors. When she came back, the mentors sat her down and told her that she had a responsibility to a baby now and she couldn't just shift into a wolf and run away from her problems anymore.
"No more shifting, no more running away, Celine-ya," Eunji said.
And Celine had agreed.
So there really had been no point in telling Rumi (and Mira and Zoey); she wasn't planning on shifting again. They had no reason to be told something that would only scare them.
After the Idol Awards, Celine feels like the worst person in the world so she shifts into the worst version of herself -- a giant, monsterous half-wolf, half-human creature with none of the good qualities of either side of her.
When the girls come up to the hanok to speak with Celine, because Celine hasn't responded to any of their texts or calls, they see Eunji-nim outside, with a giant butcher knife, cleaning a whole sheep.
"Grandmother?" Rumi asks, tilting her head.
The last surviving mentor spent most of her time in her villa, in a community of equally old retirees. And rarely came out this far. It was usually her and Celine visiting Eunji-nim.
"Oh, did Celine-ya finally come to her senses and let you three know she's alive?"
When the three of them shake their heads, Eunji sighs.
"That girl has always been so dramatic," she says. "Ever since she crawled out of the woods and we took her in --"
Is Celine conscious or is she more like she recognizes people she knows but nothing else?
Also, Celine!!!! Why didn’t you tell them?! I love the idea that she disappeared into the woods both after Miyeong and Thirdlight died and after she failed Rumi. It really makes her seem more human while at the same time showing that she’s giving into her non human side at the same time.
She's conscious and very, very depressed. Like made a den with Rumi's old clothes and hasn't come out of her room in a week depressed. And the only reason she hasn't been wasting away is because Eunji showed up to cook for her and force feed her food if need be.
Actually @frozenartscapes 's addition and @kirbytiff 's comment made me change my mind 😅;
Eunji comes to the hanok when she sees the aftermath of the Idol Awards (that Huntrix had apparently broken up briefly and that the CEO of Sunlight Entertainment, Kang Celine, will not be making any public statements).
She knows that when it comes to overwhelming life events, Celine hides inside of her wolf self and will not come out until her heart has calmed. So does not surprise her that she arrives to the hanok and finds that a wild animal has torn it apart. Nor does she find it disconcerting to hear anguished howls outside in the middle of the night.
It was times like this she missed Hana the most. Their youngest always had a special bond with the pup they'd taken in and when she'd died, their pup had acted like she'd lost her mother.
Hana could get Celine to transform back just by calling her name. She certainly would not need to find a sheep to butcher and grill and hope the smell lured the pup close enough to her that she could talk some sense into her.
When her grandchildren -- true, they shared no blood but they shared a duty and a history and that made them family -- arrived, she realized that Celine hadn't bothered to tell these hunters what she was. And had also neglected to tell Eunji what Rumi was.
"So Celine's a demon!?" They had yelled.
"A wolf spirit of a sort," Eunji said. "Never under the control of Gwi-ma like I assume your father must have been?"
The grilling meat had lured Celine close. But the moment she laid eyes on Rumi, she whined and lowered her head. And started to slink back into the forest.
Celine whined once more and pushed herself further into the darkness of the forest.
“Don’t approach her.” Eunji warned.
“Will she attack?”
“No, but she’s very scared right now and, honestly, depressed. You have to let her move on her own or she’ll run again.”
“She’s my moth—my mentor. I know how to talk to her.” Eunji fought the urge to narrow her eyes at Rumi’s glowing patterns. She had never seen demon patterns glow but it appeared as though they glowed based on the person’s emotions. Rumi’s anger vanished almost as quickly as it had appeared, leaving her with the multicolored patterns she’d arrived with, “Celine? It’s okay. It’s me. Remember, Rumi?”
“Does she remember us?” Mira asked.
“Yes. She’s still herself but, as I said, very emotional at the moment. She’s dealing with a lot of inner turmoil and her wolf self is where she feels safest.”
It’s agonizing, having to wait. Celine stayed at the edge of the woods for a long time, mostly as a pair of eyes reflecting the light from the porch back at them. Rumi fought the urge to get up and yell, “Dammit Celine! Snap out of it!” She wasn’t angry, per se. Well, she was. But mostly she was terrified and frustrated and worried. Guilt gnawed away at her, threatening to eat her alive from the inside out. She knew this was her fault. If she had just…thought things through better. Going to Celine and begging her to kill the girl she raised, she trained, she…loved?
The exchange echoed in her mind on a constant loop.
“Why couldn’t you love me?”
“I DO!”
“ALL OF ME!”
The idea that those could be some of the last words they share scared Rumi to the core. She hadn’t been thinking. She had been so worked up, so distraught over everything, she hadn’t realized just how much of a blow those words - that accusation - would be.
“Rumi.”
Her gaze shot up, finding Mira’s. The dancer didn’t look much better than the rest of them, but as always she had a facade of cool strength and calm Rumi envied her for at times. Mira gave her a nod, adding, “You ok?”
Rumi wanted to lie. To brush it off with a quick “I’m fine” and continue to let her own negative emotions fester. But they had agreed not to keep things from each other, and lying now felt just as wrong as everything else about this situation. So she shook her head, and decided to tell the truth.
“I…I think I caused this,” she admitted quietly.
Everyone turned to her, quiet and patient. Somehow, she could even sense the pair of eyes in the woods lock onto her.
And so she came clean about what happened under that ancient tree.
When Rumi had finished her story, Mira, Zoey and Eunji were left speechless. Mira and Zoey had known Rumi was in pain after her reveal at the Idol Awards, that part was known all too well for them, but that she had tried to end her life? That they did not know. Eunji could only stare at the still shaking wolf hiding in the trees.
“No wonder Celine freaked out.”
“I did this.”
Rumi’s voice was soft and subtle. Quiet enough that it pierced through the silent grounds as much as it would have if she had yelled the words at the top of her lungs. Did she regret getting angry at Celine? No. There were things she needed to get off her chest. Did she regret not reaching out to Celine earlier? Yes. Maybe all of this could have been avoided if Rumi had called her after the fight with Gwi Ma and spoken to her for more than five minutes, if she had thought about Celine’s words.
Why couldn’t you love me?!
I do.
I do!
I DO!
Rumi was snapped back to reality when she felt a wet noise on the palm of her hand. Behind her was a wolf with the same brown eyes Celine had always stared at her with.
Does celine as an adult tell the girls she’s a wolf shifter (either before or after the idol awards) in the wolf shifter au?
So I think after debute and before Miyeong died, Celine's favorite mentor -- her second mother, if she was being honest -- died. Her other two mentors had always been a little more leery of Celine shifting so she tried to limit it around them.
When Miyeong and Third died, Celine just fell apart. She shifted into a wolf and just disappeared for months after leaving baby Rumi with the (remaining) mentors. When she came back, the mentors sat her down and told her that she had a responsibility to a baby now and she couldn't just shift into a wolf and run away from her problems anymore.
"No more shifting, no more running away, Celine-ya," Eunji said.
And Celine had agreed.
So there really had been no point in telling Rumi (and Mira and Zoey); she wasn't planning on shifting again. They had no reason to be told something that would only scare them.
After the Idol Awards, Celine feels like the worst person in the world so she shifts into the worst version of herself -- a giant, monsterous half-wolf, half-human creature with none of the good qualities of either side of her.
When the girls come up to the hanok to speak with Celine, because Celine hasn't responded to any of their texts or calls, they see Eunji-nim outside, with a giant butcher knife, cleaning a whole sheep.
"Grandmother?" Rumi asks, tilting her head.
The last surviving mentor spent most of her time in her villa, in a community of equally old retirees. And rarely came out this far. It was usually her and Celine visiting Eunji-nim.
"Oh, did Celine-ya finally come to her senses and let you three know she's alive?"
When the three of them shake their heads, Eunji sighs.
"That girl has always been so dramatic," she says. "Ever since she crawled out of the woods and we took her in --"
Is Celine conscious or is she more like she recognizes people she knows but nothing else?
Also, Celine!!!! Why didn’t you tell them?! I love the idea that she disappeared into the woods both after Miyeong and Thirdlight died and after she failed Rumi. It really makes her seem more human while at the same time showing that she’s giving into her non human side at the same time.
She's conscious and very, very depressed. Like made a den with Rumi's old clothes and hasn't come out of her room in a week depressed. And the only reason she hasn't been wasting away is because Eunji showed up to cook for her and force feed her food if need be.
Actually @frozenartscapes 's addition and @kirbytiff 's comment made me change my mind 😅;
Eunji comes to the hanok when she sees the aftermath of the Idol Awards (that Huntrix had apparently broken up briefly and that the CEO of Sunlight Entertainment, Kang Celine, will not be making any public statements).
She knows that when it comes to overwhelming life events, Celine hides inside of her wolf self and will not come out until her heart has calmed. So does not surprise her that she arrives to the hanok and finds that a wild animal has torn it apart. Nor does she find it disconcerting to hear anguished howls outside in the middle of the night.
It was times like this she missed Hana the most. Their youngest always had a special bond with the pup they'd taken in and when she'd died, their pup had acted like she'd lost her mother.
Hana could get Celine to transform back just by calling her name. She certainly would not need to find a sheep to butcher and grill and hope the smell lured the pup close enough to her that she could talk some sense into her.
When her grandchildren -- true, they shared no blood but they shared a duty and a history and that made them family -- arrived, she realized that Celine hadn't bothered to tell these hunters what she was. And had also neglected to tell Eunji what Rumi was.
"So Celine's a demon!?" They had yelled.
"A wolf spirit of a sort," Eunji said. "Never under the control of Gwi-ma like I assume your father must have been?"
The grilling meat had lured Celine close. But the moment she laid eyes on Rumi, she whined and lowered her head. And started to slink back into the forest.
Celine whined once more and pushed herself further into the darkness of the forest.
“Don’t approach her.” Eunji warned.
“Will she attack?”
“No, but she’s very scared right now and, honestly, depressed. You have to let her move on her own or she’ll run again.”
“She’s my moth—my mentor. I know how to talk to her.” Eunji fought the urge to narrow her eyes at Rumi’s glowing patterns. She had never seen demon patterns glow but it appeared as though they glowed based on the person’s emotions. Rumi’s anger vanished almost as quickly as it had appeared, leaving her with the multicolored patterns she’d arrived with, “Celine? It’s okay. It’s me. Remember, Rumi?”
“Does she remember us?” Mira asked.
“Yes. She’s still herself but, as I said, very emotional at the moment. She’s dealing with a lot of inner turmoil and her wolf self is where she feels safest.”
Does celine as an adult tell the girls she’s a wolf shifter (either before or after the idol awards) in the wolf shifter au?
So I think after debute and before Miyeong died, Celine's favorite mentor -- her second mother, if she was being honest -- died. Her other two mentors had always been a little more leery of Celine shifting so she tried to limit it around them.
When Miyeong and Third died, Celine just fell apart. She shifted into a wolf and just disappeared for months after leaving baby Rumi with the (remaining) mentors. When she came back, the mentors sat her down and told her that she had a responsibility to a baby now and she couldn't just shift into a wolf and run away from her problems anymore.
"No more shifting, no more running away, Celine-ya," Eunji said.
And Celine had agreed.
So there really had been no point in telling Rumi (and Mira and Zoey); she wasn't planning on shifting again. They had no reason to be told something that would only scare them.
After the Idol Awards, Celine feels like the worst person in the world so she shifts into the worst version of herself -- a giant, monsterous half-wolf, half-human creature with none of the good qualities of either side of her.
When the girls come up to the hanok to speak with Celine, because Celine hasn't responded to any of their texts or calls, they see Eunji-nim outside, with a giant butcher knife, cleaning a whole sheep.
"Grandmother?" Rumi asks, tilting her head.
The last surviving mentor spent most of her time in her villa, in a community of equally old retirees. And rarely came out this far. It was usually her and Celine visiting Eunji-nim.
"Oh, did Celine-ya finally come to her senses and let you three know she's alive?"
When the three of them shake their heads, Eunji sighs.
"That girl has always been so dramatic," she says. "Ever since she crawled out of the woods and we took her in --"
Is Celine conscious or is she more like she recognizes people she knows but nothing else?
Also, Celine!!!! Why didn’t you tell them?! I love the idea that she disappeared into the woods both after Miyeong and Thirdlight died and after she failed Rumi. It really makes her seem more human while at the same time showing that she’s giving into her non human side at the same time.
She's conscious and very, very depressed. Like made a den with Rumi's old clothes and hasn't come out of her room in a week depressed. And the only reason she hasn't been wasting away is because Eunji showed up to cook for her and force feed her food if need be.
Does celine as an adult tell the girls she’s a wolf shifter (either before or after the idol awards) in the wolf shifter au?
So I think after debute and before Miyeong died, Celine's favorite mentor -- her second mother, if she was being honest -- died. Her other two mentors had always been a little more leery of Celine shifting so she tried to limit it around them.
When Miyeong and Third died, Celine just fell apart. She shifted into a wolf and just disappeared for months after leaving baby Rumi with the (remaining) mentors. When she came back, the mentors sat her down and told her that she had a responsibility to a baby now and she couldn't just shift into a wolf and run away from her problems anymore.
"No more shifting, no more running away, Celine-ya," Eunji said.
And Celine had agreed.
So there really had been no point in telling Rumi (and Mira and Zoey); she wasn't planning on shifting again. They had no reason to be told something that would only scare them.
After the Idol Awards, Celine feels like the worst person in the world so she shifts into the worst version of herself -- a giant, monsterous half-wolf, half-human creature with none of the good qualities of either side of her.
When the girls come up to the hanok to speak with Celine, because Celine hasn't responded to any of their texts or calls, they see Eunji-nim outside, with a giant butcher knife, cleaning a whole sheep.
"Grandmother?" Rumi asks, tilting her head.
The last surviving mentor spent most of her time in her villa, in a community of equally old retirees. And rarely came out this far. It was usually her and Celine visiting Eunji-nim.
"Oh, did Celine-ya finally come to her senses and let you three know she's alive?"
When the three of them shake their heads, Eunji sighs.
"That girl has always been so dramatic," she says. "Ever since she crawled out of the woods and we took her in --"
Is Celine conscious or is she more like she recognizes people she knows but nothing else?
Also, Celine!!!! Why didn’t you tell them?! I love the idea that she disappeared into the woods both after Miyeong and Thirdlight died and after she failed Rumi. It really makes her seem more human while at the same time showing that she’s giving into her non human side at the same time.
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I rewatched Back To The Future and now I’m just imagining Rumi, Mira and Zoey having own adventure in 1997 where they manage to subtly change only a few things before returning to 2025.
Only when they return, Celine is gloriously happy working as a gardener and executive member at Sunlight Sister Entertainment, Miyeong is still alive, married to Celine and Thirdlight, and works at Sunlight Sister Entertainment along with Celine and Thirdlight is still around working as the CEO of Sunlight Sister entertainment.
And all of them know about Rumi’s patterns and encourage her to talk to Mira and Zoey about it along with encouraging them to not hide away their faults and fears.
I rewatched Back To The Future and now I’m just imagining Rumi, Mira and Zoey having own adventure in 1997 where they manage to subtly change only a few things before returning to 2025.
Only when they return, Celine is gloriously happy working as a gardener and executive member at Sunlight Sister Entertainment, Miyeong is still alive, married to Celine and Thirdlight, and works at Sunlight Sister Entertainment along with Celine and Thirdlight is still around working as the CEO of Sunlight Sister entertainment.
And all of them know about Rumi’s patterns and encourage her to talk to Mira and Zoey about it along with encouraging them to not hide away their faults and fears.
Okay, but an interesting au idea for that cut scene where Celine killed Rumi's parents? An au where Celine....just TELLS Rumi about that once she's old enough. How might that really alter their relationship? Or her relationship with Zoey and Mira?
Hello @l-egionaire !!!
If Celine did decide to tell Rumi about what she did, I think she'd probably tell her directly before they go looking for Zoey and Mira. Telling Rumi after she'd trained with Zoey and Mira could risk rocking the boat too much and if Rumi does have a large reaction, which Celine assumes she would, she wants Rumi to have that reaction a few years before she goes on stage not a few weeks. She tells her the honest truth, saying it was an accident and Miyeong put herself in between her and Rumi's demon father and that it was an accident and she'd take it back if she could.
"How might that really alter their relationship?" It would definitely change how Rumi sees Celine. The rational part of her mind is able to understand that Celine didn't actively seek out her mother to kill her, it wasn't like Celine attacked her as the target she was going after a demon. However, the non rational part of her brain is only thinking about how Celine killed her mother, Celine killed a fellow hunt. Why did her mom defend her dad then? Did he have her under a spell or something? Was she hypnotized? Did she go in front of the sword willingly? Rumi would have a lot of questions and I think she'd need some time away from Celine. Celine decides to stay at a hotel near the office and gives Rumi the house so she can think everything over for a while.
"Or her relationship with Zoey and Mira?" I don't think it would impact her relationship with Zoey and Mira too much. MAYBE it would make Rumi more likely to tell them because her mother was killing to die for a demon so that has to be proof that demons aren't all that bad. However, she also remembers that in that story, Celine, a hunter with the same training as Zoey and Mira, killed a demon with no hesitation meaning Zoey and Mira may do the same to her. She really would be stuck and not know quite what to do.
“Avatar Katara.” Azula grinned, “My apologies for my current state. I thought I had a few more hours before you arrived. I promise I will be in more formal clothing for our dinner tonight.”
“I’ll make sure of it.” Ursa added. Katara didn’t miss how Azula rolled her eyes at her mother.
“It’s alright.” Katara said, “It’s an honor to meet you, Princess Azula. I know you’ve heard of our…arrangement by now so I won’t beat around the bush too much. I look forward to speaking with you tonight.” Azula grinned in the same way a polar bear dog might smile at an unsuspecting fox rabbit.
“As do I. Would you care to join me for a quick spar?” She asked.
“Azula.” Ursa warned.
“If I’m going to be her firebending master, I want to see what she can do. She is a Water Tribe Avatar after all. It only makes sense that fire is her weakest element.” Katara felt herself grow irritated. It was true that most Avatar’s struggled with their opposite elements but the way Azula announced it made her angry.
“I assure you, I have no weakest element.” Katara found herself saying.
Azula raised an eyebrow, “Oh? Well, let's test that theory.” She fell into a firebending position.
“I haven’t had the time to practice firebending. I won’t beat you.” Katara said.
“I know. For this round, I want to see what you can do simply by deflecting and countering my attacks. You don’t even have to use firebending if it’s too difficult.” Azula said, “I’ll go easy on you if that makes you feel safer.”
Stuck up princess.
Katara fell into a waterbending position while Ursa walked off towards the seats which were positioned far enough away where she wouldn’t get hurt. Azula moved first. She slipped past Katara with ease and unleashed a fireblast on Katara’s back. Nothing to seriously hurt the Avatar but enough to knock her to the ground.
“What the-“
“Oh, I should have specified. My easy would be everyone else’s ’fight like their life depends on it’ so….you might want to get back up.” Katara instantly got back up and charged at Azula.
Back and forth they went, for every firebending move Azula had, Katara was right there to counter it. At times, Katara remembered that she was supposed to be firebending and would try to create a burst of fire, but given that Azula usually just pushed the fire out of the way it seemed as though water was her best option. It was kind of beautiful to watch Azula’s light blue flames tangle with Katara’s dark blue water. As they fought, Ursa couldn’t help but be entranced by their bending. Water and fire both gracefully and majestically hitting against one another and working intertwined. Like Yin and Yang.
Then, almost as suddenly as it began, it stopped.
“You’re good.” Azula admitted.
“I’m a master in two elements for a reason.”
“Don’t get cocky, Avatar. You’re not a master firebender yet.” Azula stretched her arms over her head, “I should go get ready for tonight. I guess I’ll see you there.”
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You think Celine ever gets a bit hurt by how much her fame has decreased? She doesn't want to go out and perform a lot anymore (especially without Miyeong and Thirdlight) and she does completely understand that it's been almost 30 years since the Sunlight Sisters performed. It's natural that people don't recognize her when she goes out and, for the most part, she likes it.
But there is just the tiniest part of her that feels a bit hurt and almost embarrassed when she thinks someone remembers her and they don't or when she gets referred to as a "washed up" idol.
imagine being the leading group in korea + the surrounding area for 10ish(?) years and then complaining about the cons of fame. and then you get to disappear from the public and live your life in peace (as much as one can get when two of your soulmates are dead or disappeared). and THEN you realise, oh, wait. being an idol was actually fulfilling, and i liked the attention, i liked seeing my face on billboards and my name shouted in the crowd and the thrill of it all. i liked my destiny.
and she will never get to experience that again. she will never get to be that young, that popular ever again.
Celine does enjoy her peaceful life. She’s not ashamed to admit that she talked about wanting a peaceful life when she was an idol and now that she has it she’s happy. She likes her quiet mornings without having to worry if someone is going to take a picture of her going to the store or something. But there are moments, that Celine will never admit to, where she misses the fans wanting her autograph, misses feeling important, misses feeling like she had a purpose.
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