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Does celine as an adult tell the girls sheâs a wolf shifter (either before or after the idol awards) in the wolf shifter au?
So I think after debute and before Miyeong died, Celine's favorite mentor -- her second mother, if she was being honest -- died. Her other two mentors had always been a little more leery of Celine shifting so she tried to limit it around them.
When Miyeong and Third died, Celine just fell apart. She shifted into a wolf and just disappeared for months after leaving baby Rumi with the (remaining) mentors. When she came back, the mentors sat her down and told her that she had a responsibility to a baby now and she couldn't just shift into a wolf and run away from her problems anymore.
"No more shifting, no more running away, Celine-ya," Eunji said.
And Celine had agreed.
So there really had been no point in telling Rumi (and Mira and Zoey); she wasn't planning on shifting again. They had no reason to be told something that would only scare them.
After the Idol Awards, Celine feels like the worst person in the world so she shifts into the worst version of herself -- a giant, monsterous half-wolf, half-human creature with none of the good qualities of either side of her.
When the girls come up to the hanok to speak with Celine, because Celine hasn't responded to any of their texts or calls, they see Eunji-nim outside, with a giant butcher knife, cleaning a whole sheep.
"Grandmother?" Rumi asks, tilting her head.
The last surviving mentor spent most of her time in her villa, in a community of equally old retirees. And rarely came out this far. It was usually her and Celine visiting Eunji-nim.
"Oh, did Celine-ya finally come to her senses and let you three know she's alive?"
When the three of them shake their heads, Eunji sighs.
"That girl has always been so dramatic," she says. "Ever since she crawled out of the woods and we took her in --"
"Wait what?" Zoey asks.
"Crawled out of the woods?" Rumi looks confused.
Eunji sighs deeply.
Is Celine conscious or is she more like she recognizes people she knows but nothing else?
Also, Celine!!!! Why didnât you tell them?! I love the idea that she disappeared into the woods both after Miyeong and Thirdlight died and after she failed Rumi. It really makes her seem more human while at the same time showing that sheâs giving into her non human side at the same time.
She's conscious and very, very depressed. Like made a den with Rumi's old clothes and hasn't come out of her room in a week depressed. And the only reason she hasn't been wasting away is because Eunji showed up to cook for her and force feed her food if need be.
Ahhh okay. Iâm so curious about what the girls reaction will be to Celine and what Celineâs reaction would be to the girls
Actually @frozenartscapes 's addition and @kirbytiff 's comment made me change my mind đ ;
Eunji comes to the hanok when she sees the aftermath of the Idol Awards (that Huntrix had apparently broken up briefly and that the CEO of Sunlight Entertainment, Kang Celine, will not be making any public statements).
She knows that when it comes to overwhelming life events, Celine hides inside of her wolf self and will not come out until her heart has calmed. So does not surprise her that she arrives to the hanok and finds that a wild animal has torn it apart. Nor does she find it disconcerting to hear anguished howls outside in the middle of the night.
It was times like this she missed Hana the most. Their youngest always had a special bond with the pup they'd taken in and when she'd died, their pup had acted like she'd lost her mother.
Hana could get Celine to transform back just by calling her name. She certainly would not need to find a sheep to butcher and grill and hope the smell lured the pup close enough to her that she could talk some sense into her.
When her grandchildren -- true, they shared no blood but they shared a duty and a history and that made them family -- arrived, she realized that Celine hadn't bothered to tell these hunters what she was. And had also neglected to tell Eunji what Rumi was.
"So Celine's a demon!?" They had yelled.
"A wolf spirit of a sort," Eunji said. "Never under the control of Gwi-ma like I assume your father must have been?"
The grilling meat had lured Celine close. But the moment she laid eyes on Rumi, she whined and lowered her head. And started to slink back into the forest.
"Celine," Rumi begged. "Don't run away, please?"
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Celine whined once more and pushed herself further into the darkness of the forest.
âDonât approach her.â Eunji warned.
âWill she attack?â
âNo, but sheâs very scared right now and, honestly, depressed. You have to let her move on her own or sheâll run again.â
âSheâs my mothâmy mentor. I know how to talk to her.â Eunji fought the urge to narrow her eyes at Rumiâs glowing patterns. She had never seen demon patterns glow but it appeared as though they glowed based on the personâs emotions. Rumiâs anger vanished almost as quickly as it had appeared, leaving her with the multicolored patterns sheâd arrived with, âCeline? Itâs okay. Itâs me. Remember, Rumi?â
âDoes she remember us?â Mira asked.
âYes. Sheâs still herself but, as I said, very emotional at the moment. Sheâs dealing with a lot of inner turmoil and her wolf self is where she feels safest.â
Itâs agonizing, having to wait. Celine stayed at the edge of the woods for a long time, mostly as a pair of eyes reflecting the light from the porch back at them. Rumi fought the urge to get up and yell, âDammit Celine! Snap out of it!â She wasnât angry, per se. Well, she was. But mostly she was terrified and frustrated and worried. Guilt gnawed away at her, threatening to eat her alive from the inside out. She knew this was her fault. If she had justâŚthought things through better. Going to Celine and begging her to kill the girl she raised, she trained, sheâŚloved?
The exchange echoed in her mind on a constant loop.
âWhy couldnât you love me?â
âI DO!â
âALL OF ME!â
The idea that those could be some of the last words they share scared Rumi to the core. She hadnât been thinking. She had been so worked up, so distraught over everything, she hadnât realized just how much of a blow those words - that accusation - would be.
âRumi.â
Her gaze shot up, finding Miraâs. The dancer didnât look much better than the rest of them, but as always she had a facade of cool strength and calm Rumi envied her for at times. Mira gave her a nod, adding, âYou ok?â
Rumi wanted to lie. To brush it off with a quick âIâm fineâ and continue to let her own negative emotions fester. But they had agreed not to keep things from each other, and lying now felt just as wrong as everything else about this situation. So she shook her head, and decided to tell the truth.
âIâŚI think I caused this,â she admitted quietly.
Everyone turned to her, quiet and patient. Somehow, she could even sense the pair of eyes in the woods lock onto her.
And so she came clean about what happened under that ancient tree.
Does celine as an adult tell the girls sheâs a wolf shifter (either before or after the idol awards) in the wolf shifter au?
So I think after debute and before Miyeong died, Celine's favorite mentor -- her second mother, if she was being honest -- died. Her other two mentors had always been a little more leery of Celine shifting so she tried to limit it around them.
When Miyeong and Third died, Celine just fell apart. She shifted into a wolf and just disappeared for months after leaving baby Rumi with the (remaining) mentors. When she came back, the mentors sat her down and told her that she had a responsibility to a baby now and she couldn't just shift into a wolf and run away from her problems anymore.
"No more shifting, no more running away, Celine-ya," Eunji said.
And Celine had agreed.
So there really had been no point in telling Rumi (and Mira and Zoey); she wasn't planning on shifting again. They had no reason to be told something that would only scare them.
After the Idol Awards, Celine feels like the worst person in the world so she shifts into the worst version of herself -- a giant, monsterous half-wolf, half-human creature with none of the good qualities of either side of her.
When the girls come up to the hanok to speak with Celine, because Celine hasn't responded to any of their texts or calls, they see Eunji-nim outside, with a giant butcher knife, cleaning a whole sheep.
"Grandmother?" Rumi asks, tilting her head.
The last surviving mentor spent most of her time in her villa, in a community of equally old retirees. And rarely came out this far. It was usually her and Celine visiting Eunji-nim.
"Oh, did Celine-ya finally come to her senses and let you three know she's alive?"
When the three of them shake their heads, Eunji sighs.
"That girl has always been so dramatic," she says. "Ever since she crawled out of the woods and we took her in --"
"Wait what?" Zoey asks.
"Crawled out of the woods?" Rumi looks confused.
Eunji sighs deeply.
This makes me think of those legends about werewolves where if a loved one of the werewolf calls their name, they turn back into a person.
Eunji tried, but Celine didn't share quite the same level of connection needed for this to work. The wolf/human hybrid form she's in is too strong. There are too many negative emotions trapping her for Eunji's words to reach her. There is enough there, at least, that hearing her name spoken in Eunji's voice kept the wolf from tearing her apart. Much like a wild wolf recognizing the human who rehabilitated it as a pup.
Mira and Zoey try, and there is more recognition. The wolf went from actively trying to eat them to confused and worried mother dog. Who are these children? Why are they out here in the woods? Don't they know there are hunters out here?
But Rumi... Well, she tries, too. And the wolf listens. The wolf hears her voice and immediately thinks "that's my pup". But Celine? Celine is questioning everything, and all she can remember is what Rumi accused her of under the tree.
tf did they put in these tonics
au where rumi never gets jinu's letter, mistaking derpy & sussie for tonic induced hallucinations
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[ Celine fighting demons and one of them throws toddler Rumi but Celine catches her. ]
Celine: Who threw her?!??
Demons:
Demon: Me?
Celine: Buddy, you just made my list.
Demon: What list?
Celine: The list of people Iâm going to hit really hard.
The leader keeping morale up
AU idea: Post-movie Celineâs not doing too hot. Depression has come back with a vengeance along with years of unresolved grief and trauma and sheâs barely holding it together. Coupled with the fact that the girls want some space and sheâs facing a crisis of âIâm no longer needed what do I do nowâ mentality about to boil over.
Cut to a group of new characters. They are all middle-aged/older woman, many of whom either never married or lost their husbands or are divorced. Theyâre trying to put together a band since they all have retirement time and empty nest syndrome. The only trouble is no one takes them seriously being who they are and the fact their music choice is heavily inspired by hard alternative rock with an emphasis on angsty lyrics. That, and they donât really have a good lead singer. Yes, they can all sing perfectly well, but theyâre all better with instruments and without a killer voice at the lead the rest of it just falls apart.
Theyâre hanging out in a bar one day discussing their dilemma when a lone, miserable figure enters and plunks herself down at the far end of the bar, orders a double whiskey straight, and otherwise ignores everyone else.
But they know who she is.
Itâs through a lot of convincing and a few more glasses of whiskey that they convince Celine to join them on the venueâs dinky little stage and sing a song, and the rest is history.
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After surgery for the heart attack Celine is told she has high blood pressure from her constant lack of sleep and all the stress sheâs under and has to be on medication for the foreseeable future.
Needless to say she isnât happy about this.
I love how everyone has decided Celine is the stereotypical dad who Ignor their own issues till it almost kills them đ.
Celine is the dad who ignores her own chronic health issues until it almost kills her and she is also the farmer that used masking tape to wrap up broken fingers before getting back to work đ
Celine is told that she has to "take things easy" and "maybe think about some time off" for "her health."
(What the doctor had actually said was, "Kang-nim, I have seen better numbers from hostages and prisoners. Please take better care of yourself.")
And she is grumbling the entire time about it until Rumi hits her with, "Do you not want to see me grow up?"
"Rumi, what are you talking about?"
Rumi shrugs and looks away.
"Well, the doctor basically said you were going to die if you didn't take time off," Rumi says. "I just thought maybe you'd want to, I don't know, see me grow old first? Maybe get married, have kids?"
"Of course I want to see that."
"Then can you listen to the doctor, Celine? Please, for me?"
Now Iâm imagining the local clinic thatâs the closest to the hanok on Jeju getting used to seeing Celine there for check ups/prescription renewals and then one day Celine comes in with no appointment.
Rece ptionist: Oh Kang-nim! What a surprise! What can we do for you.
Celine: Yes, IâŚI was constructing a new fence and I noticed my back was starting to hurt.
Receptionist: Ah. I see. Did Rumi-nim ask you to come in?
Celine: No I⌠Thought it best I come in on my own.
Receptionist, sweating: âŚandâŚhow much would you say your back hurts? On a scale of 1-10.
Celine, wincing from pain: Iâm here, arenât I?
Receptionist, to nurse: Get a room ready. Now.
Receptionist, to Celine: And did you manage to get the fence done before coming over?
Celine: No, I did not.
Receptionist, to nurse: Forget the room call an ambulance!
The thing about food and eating is that I think very very few people just have like. Fully normal and healthy relationships to it. And all of the Huntrix girls have different kinds of weirdness to whatâs up with them even given that someone (Celine) has done her best to make sure that they are able to eat despite the standards of the kpop industry
This is in part because Celine herself had a severe eating disorder as a younger person, and while sheâs recovered to the point where she understands that what was happening with her and the other Sunlight Sisters was Not Okay and she really really wants to make sure that it never happens with her girls, she⌠has some weird ideas about what food is Okay and Healthy and Safe for her especially and about how to get people to eat in general
Which is why Rumi is the most chill around food but also does just kinda treat it as a necessity sometimes. She heard âfood is fuel and you should give your body what it needsâ constantly growing up, and so like she doesnât do messed up âfood as rewardâ or âfood as overindulgenceâ viewpoints really but
She will just get disconnected from her body and forget to take care of it. Or sometimes, eventually, lowkey avoid taking caring of it. Because fuck it, sheâs not a machine, she doesnât need to be in perfect shape, why not go on an insane spiral and do something that sucks the whole way down instead?
For Zoey, itâs not the âwhat is having a bodyâ autism as much (though that does happen to her), but the âI have sensory issues and food is An Experienceâ autism
Of course, itâs not like she can say that she doesnât like mushrooms or that the texture of rice turns into something Evil the moment itâs even a little overcooked or she just finds lentils really very unpleasant. She canât be picky and cause problems and make someone make a special meal just for her
(Her parents had a tendency to lash out. Maybe. Just a little. Itâs fine! Sheâs not going to be a problem! Itâs fine!)
Getting Zoey to express an opinion about food is a level four friendship achievement
Mira, meanwhile, grew up in the dance world, and so that came with a lot of bodyshamingâboth from her teachers (too tall, anyone with an ounce of fat on them was fat (derogatory)) and from her family (too muscular, not feminine enough, etc)âand a lot of pushes towards restricting how much she ate and what foods were acceptable
When she moves in with Rumi and Celine, sheâs very surprised to find that suddenly the attitude on food is not âlet us control that heavilyâ and instead âyeah youâre doing a lot of work you need a lot of that so of course weâre making things with lots of nutrients in them for meals! You should feel free to get a snack whenever you want!â and, in classic Mira fashion, is probably the one whoâs most worked through her existing issues to get more comfortable and healthy around food and in her body
It's funny because I was thinking about something in a similar vein. I was thinking about how Celine may actually be an unintentional Granola Mom, but not for any actual dietary or ecological reasons. Mostly because they've got this big ass garden and live on an island with the best growing conditions you could have, why bother with processed food?
Celine likely developed a lot of unhealthy eating habits for herself, but I imagine didn't apply those same things to Rumi, especially as Rumi was growing up. Before it became apparent that Rumi was going to be an idol, I think all Celine cared about was that she was eating healthy. And they've already got a leg up on that because they can grow most of their own fruits and veggies. There was probably a period of time in Rumi's life where "Cece I'm hungry" was answered with "The mandarins on the tree out back should be ripe by now".
And I can see that helping Celine's view on eating, somewhat. It gives a bit of control back to her. It's not just that she's eating "healthy" things like vegetables and fruit, but it's food she grew. She knows it's ok because she watched it develop from a seed. She was there for every step of the process, from the initial planting all the way up to the cooking or canning, depending on what she's doing with it. And the act of cooking - mostly for Rumi at the start - opened up the ability to see food in a different light. She started with the Most Healthy options: a lot of veggie or vegan dishes, ones touted as "the best for you and your kids" with a lot of organic ingredients and nutritional information. But slowly, very slowly, she starts to learn that it's ok experiment. Try new things. Indulge a little. Food is fuel, but it could be good fuel and she's always wanted to learn how to cook the abalone she always sees at markets.
It helps Zoey, as cooking means certain ingredients can be omitted or modified to suit her needs. And it's never a problem because it's a new way to try something. Celine keeps a recipe book of her own, one almost as messy as Zoey's notebooks thanks to all the notes about modifications and experiments. And the idea of cooking to take some control back is something she passes on to Mira. Celine recognizes similar patterns, though thankfully not nearly as ingrained in the teen...Yet. Thankfully Mira got out of there before it could get worse. Whenever Mira starts to get that "I'm hungry but it's not dinner yet and I don't need to eat right now" look Celine calls Rumi over. "Go show Mira the mandarin tree."
Side note: As a result of growing up like this, though, I like to think that Rumi didn't have much exposure to processed food until she was, like, eleven. Twelve, even. The first time she ever had a cup of noodles the sheer amount of salt nearly killed her. She basically curled up into a ball, like a snail, before Celine gave her a whole jug of water to drink. The first time she had a soda her head nearly exploded from the sugar high. She didn't sleep for three days. At one point Celine got up to get a drink at 2am only to have a small heart attack at the sight of Rumi hanging upside down from the rafters, eyes glowing in the dark like a freaking racoon.
Baby Rumi nearly dying from consuming cup of noddles With Salt⌠poor thing
(As the child of an Almond Mom TM, my experiences were the opposite: getting access to chips? Cookies? White bread? Sugary cereal? Sugary anything? My siblings and I went wild for it)
Picturing baby Rumi staying over at a friendâs house shortly after starting school and having snack with them,,,,, losing her mind over a bag of Doritos. The kidâs mom has to call Celine because Rumi is crying. They donât do a lot of playdates after that
I also like to hc that Celine taught Mira and Zoey and Rumi to cook!! It feels very right to me that she wouldâve wanted to make sure they could take care of themselves as much as possible, and that they knew enough about food and nutrition that they wouldnât start listening to diet culture bullshit and forget about how much energy demon hunting takes
I feel like Zoey would really take to cooking alsoâshe can keep the food from being an issue for her, and doesnât have to make accommodating her an issue for anyone else, either, while she also gets to do something nice and take care of her girls, too!
I think as Rumi gets older and gains more exposure she's less affected by processed food. I feel like part of the craving for it comes from not being allowed to eat it. My parents weren't quite as bad as others, but there were definitely foods that were meant to be for "special" occasions only, or not at all (I distinctly remember never being allowed to eat Lucky Charms as a kid. Well guess what was the first cereal I bought once I was finally living on my own). But in Rumi's case it's not so much that Celine didn't allow those kinds of things, but more they didn't really need them? Why get a cup of factory-made noodles and far too much sodium when we can make our own noodles and soup broth?
And it's stuff like that she teaches them. A lot of it ends up under the guise of "as Hunters you need to be prepared for anything, and if there's a demon apocalypse you should know how to make noodles". I'm actually picturing training excursions where she dragged them out into the woods to make campfire dinners or something. (Along with some good foraging/fishing lessons as well). Because as long as there's justification for it, then they're allowed to do it.
The way I've always pictured the girls' talents in the kitchen is that they're all actually pretty competent, just in different areas. Mira's the best at overall cooking. She's the one who actually learned all sorts of techniques and recipes and if she wanted she could probably open up a restaurant at this point. Zoey is an average-to-above-average cook. She's good at winging it, and just kind of has an intuition on what will go good with stuff. She never measures, and often pairs things that don't seem like they'll match but they do. It boggles Mira's mind every time she watches Zoey perform kitchen alchemy and it's actually really good. Rumi isn't the best at cooking, (and I mean, she can cook if there's a recipe to follow), but where she excels is baking. The more precise the recipe needs to be, the better she is. All of the scariest things you can do when baking she's perfected: tempering chocolate, laminated dough, macarons, soufflĂŠs - you name it she can bake it. (She's their secret weapon whenever a variety show has a baking challenge).
The thing about food and eating is that I think very very few people just have like. Fully normal and healthy relationships to it. And all of the Huntrix girls have different kinds of weirdness to whatâs up with them even given that someone (Celine) has done her best to make sure that they are able to eat despite the standards of the kpop industry
This is in part because Celine herself had a severe eating disorder as a younger person, and while sheâs recovered to the point where she understands that what was happening with her and the other Sunlight Sisters was Not Okay and she really really wants to make sure that it never happens with her girls, she⌠has some weird ideas about what food is Okay and Healthy and Safe for her especially and about how to get people to eat in general
Which is why Rumi is the most chill around food but also does just kinda treat it as a necessity sometimes. She heard âfood is fuel and you should give your body what it needsâ constantly growing up, and so like she doesnât do messed up âfood as rewardâ or âfood as overindulgenceâ viewpoints really but
She will just get disconnected from her body and forget to take care of it. Or sometimes, eventually, lowkey avoid taking caring of it. Because fuck it, sheâs not a machine, she doesnât need to be in perfect shape, why not go on an insane spiral and do something that sucks the whole way down instead?
For Zoey, itâs not the âwhat is having a bodyâ autism as much (though that does happen to her), but the âI have sensory issues and food is An Experienceâ autism
Of course, itâs not like she can say that she doesnât like mushrooms or that the texture of rice turns into something Evil the moment itâs even a little overcooked or she just finds lentils really very unpleasant. She canât be picky and cause problems and make someone make a special meal just for her
(Her parents had a tendency to lash out. Maybe. Just a little. Itâs fine! Sheâs not going to be a problem! Itâs fine!)
Getting Zoey to express an opinion about food is a level four friendship achievement
Mira, meanwhile, grew up in the dance world, and so that came with a lot of bodyshamingâboth from her teachers (too tall, anyone with an ounce of fat on them was fat (derogatory)) and from her family (too muscular, not feminine enough, etc)âand a lot of pushes towards restricting how much she ate and what foods were acceptable
When she moves in with Rumi and Celine, sheâs very surprised to find that suddenly the attitude on food is not âlet us control that heavilyâ and instead âyeah youâre doing a lot of work you need a lot of that so of course weâre making things with lots of nutrients in them for meals! You should feel free to get a snack whenever you want!â and, in classic Mira fashion, is probably the one whoâs most worked through her existing issues to get more comfortable and healthy around food and in her body
It's funny because I was thinking about something in a similar vein. I was thinking about how Celine may actually be an unintentional Granola Mom, but not for any actual dietary or ecological reasons. Mostly because they've got this big ass garden and live on an island with the best growing conditions you could have, why bother with processed food?
Celine likely developed a lot of unhealthy eating habits for herself, but I imagine didn't apply those same things to Rumi, especially as Rumi was growing up. Before it became apparent that Rumi was going to be an idol, I think all Celine cared about was that she was eating healthy. And they've already got a leg up on that because they can grow most of their own fruits and veggies. There was probably a period of time in Rumi's life where "Cece I'm hungry" was answered with "The mandarins on the tree out back should be ripe by now".
And I can see that helping Celine's view on eating, somewhat. It gives a bit of control back to her. It's not just that she's eating "healthy" things like vegetables and fruit, but it's food she grew. She knows it's ok because she watched it develop from a seed. She was there for every step of the process, from the initial planting all the way up to the cooking or canning, depending on what she's doing with it. And the act of cooking - mostly for Rumi at the start - opened up the ability to see food in a different light. She started with the Most Healthy options: a lot of veggie or vegan dishes, ones touted as "the best for you and your kids" with a lot of organic ingredients and nutritional information. But slowly, very slowly, she starts to learn that it's ok experiment. Try new things. Indulge a little. Food is fuel, but it could be good fuel and she's always wanted to learn how to cook the abalone she always sees at markets.
It helps Zoey, as cooking means certain ingredients can be omitted or modified to suit her needs. And it's never a problem because it's a new way to try something. Celine keeps a recipe book of her own, one almost as messy as Zoey's notebooks thanks to all the notes about modifications and experiments. And the idea of cooking to take some control back is something she passes on to Mira. Celine recognizes similar patterns, though thankfully not nearly as ingrained in the teen...Yet. Thankfully Mira got out of there before it could get worse. Whenever Mira starts to get that "I'm hungry but it's not dinner yet and I don't need to eat right now" look Celine calls Rumi over. "Go show Mira the mandarin tree."
Side note: As a result of growing up like this, though, I like to think that Rumi didn't have much exposure to processed food until she was, like, eleven. Twelve, even. The first time she ever had a cup of noodles the sheer amount of salt nearly killed her. She basically curled up into a ball, like a snail, before Celine gave her a whole jug of water to drink. The first time she had a soda her head nearly exploded from the sugar high. She didn't sleep for three days. At one point Celine got up to get a drink at 2am only to have a small heart attack at the sight of Rumi hanging upside down from the rafters, eyes glowing in the dark like a freaking racoon.
Honestly reading your post does raise many questions and proves why it doesnât work at all as a concept given both Celine & Rumiâs characters as a whole. Observing you think about it over a day from thinking it was interesting to realizing there are to many problems with idea is enlightening. Thank you.
Yeah, tbh it shows how emotions can cloud judgement at first (also why it's sometimes best to sit on an idea before jumping into it). Like, the scene was cool. It had drama, it had angst, it had action. It had Rumi becoming even more of a demon. It had Celine showing more emotions. It had flashbacks, not just of Miyeong and Rumi's dad, but also more baby Rumi and Celine actually being a parent. On first watch, it had everything we've been craving.
But I had a day to sit and think on it. And yeah, it was cool. But it also didn't make sense. Not for what we actually got in the movie and not for any new potential plotlines moving forward. I think they could still have something equally as dramatic and angsty, even a similar kind of confrontation, but not having the driving motivator being "Celine killed Rumi's mom".
There definitely was a reason they left this out. People lost their minds over the tiny bit of Celine we actually got. An alarming number of people watched the Tree Scene and their take away was "Celine is the real villain of this movie and here's all the ways she hates Rumi" which is...not correct. Hell, there was a single piece of even rougher concept art with this idea and that was suddenly the basis for a million "Celine was actually abusive" fanfics. So yeah, if they had given us this scene without any other context or explanation, people would have lost their minds. And the point of the confrontation would have been lost even more. It wouldn't be about Rumi forging her own path and learning to value herself instead of hiding in shame and fear. It would be about Rumi avenging her dead mom, a character we know literally nothing about and have next to no connection with.
This may be a bit of a hot take, but Iâve had this thought ever since the fandom started freaking out about the concept art almost a year ago. How exactly would Celine have gotten away with Miyeongâs murder?
Like I know the movie has a pretty blasĂŠ attitude to people dying at times (see: a whole train full of people being eaten by demons and itâs never brought up again). But Miyeong would have been an A-list celebrity in Korea and the only person who was with her was Celine. And if weâre going off the new animated storyboard, she was very clearly stabbed to death. So itâs not like it could be written off as an accident. Or that she died in childbirth, as Celine allegedly told Rumi. Even if Celine could fake it to look like someone else attacked her, there would be a high degree of suspicion against her. And if storyboard!Celine did what I think she did, disappearing into the mountains to live as a hermit doesnât help with the optics.
But alsoâŚhow did Miyeong hide that she was pregnant? Did she justâŚdisappear for 3-4 months once she couldnât hide it from her team anymore? Go completely no contact? And youâre telling me that wouldnât have had any effect on anything? Miyeong shirking responsibility and hiding from her friends, all to be with a demon, wouldnât piss Celine off? Third wasnât there in the storyboard, so either she dipped already or possibly got killed (maybe because Miyeong wasnât there to help?). So Celineâs just discovering her friend and fellow hunter claiming that she loves this demon. All Celine knows is her friend was MIA for a while with no explanation, her other friend is gone, and now the missing friend is suddenly insisting that demons arenât all bad and this one is fine. That seems insanely sus. Pair that with what we know of demons: how that can trick your mind, convince you of lies, pretend to be people theyâre not, shapeshift and manipulate their voices⌠Celine probably saw that and immediately jumped to what her training told her to do in that scenario.
And Miyeong jumped in front of her
I donât know. I think this idea is dramatic and punchy but there are too many holes that have to be explained away to make it work, especially in the context of the story we have. Like this whole plot line should be the focus of the movie if this is what they wanted to do, instead of just a quick reveal to be glossed over in one scene. There's also the problem of, you know, laws. Like they were clearly trying to make Celine sympathetic but ultimately in the wrong, but having her be directly responsible for Miyeong's murder sets her up to be narratively (and in-universe, legally) doomed. And, I don't know... I just think that's boring? Like, yeah, there's that initial angst of what she did but ultimately she would end up either in jail or dead, and more likely than not Rumi would never speak to her again. And that's where it ends.
But if she hadn't actually killed Miyeong (maybe was there and witnessed it but couldn't stop it, or blames herself for being too slow), then that opens up more possibilities for her character moving forward. I am a strong proponent of the sequel looking into their relationship more, along with how she became a mentor to Mira and Zoey. They could explore the idea of being a single mother and raising a child alone. They could shed light on adoption, and how blood doesn't necessarily mean family. They could look into generational trauma (although I feel like this would be an undercurrent for any other theme). They could touch on what it's like growing up in the spotlight because of who your guardian is. Or being raised under the tutelage of someone with an incredible responsibility that they'll one day pass on, and how not normal that is. They could expand Zoey and Mira's backstories while at the same time reveal how Celine helped them adapt to their new reality, maybe even becoming a surrogate parental figure for the two of them. And how they are conflicted post-movie because of how Celine treated them vs how she treated Rumi.
All of that just gets kind of lost when "she killed Rumi's mom" is hanging over the narrative. Any conversation or character arc is going to be stunted by that line she crossed and can't go back from. Any possibility of redemption or explaining herself or reconnecting with Rumi in some other way will feel manipulative and toxic. Because Celine did something reprehensible, even if it was mostly an accident.

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This whole time, my preferred story if things HAD to go the way of Celine actually being responsible for Miyeongâs death, I wanted it to go more or less like this (and I am SO happy how close I got)
They may choose to delve into this in the sequel, and it could be a good source of conflict. To have Celine, who fucked up. Like really fucked up. But her love for Rumi is undeniable, even with her reservations about the patterns. (And god, Rumi fully demoned-out taking swings at Celine and Celine not fighting back despite the threat because the threat is RUMI. I need that scene properly animated. Like NOW)
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but the way huntr/x would definitely do this?!?!?!?? dkfjdjsjkaka