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tear-stains on astrology charts

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asteroids that are in cancer (4°, 16°, 28°) and/or pisces (12°, 24°) and/or aspect the moon

chiron (2060): part of their wound and healing in all regards.

cyane (403): becomes a puddle of tears after failing persephone.

echo (60): mourned narcissus until she herself died from sadness.

klytia (73): loved the helios - became depressed and died when he rejected her.

lacrimosa (208): comes from the latin "weeping" or "tearful" - the story itself is about a divine grief.

niobe (71): never stopped crying after the loss of her children.

ophelia (171): tragic character - drowns in her own feelings and is overwhelmingly melancholic.

orpheus (3361): after traveling to the underworld and failing to bring his wife back, orpheus is never the same and in most versions becomes depressed.

planetary things

cancer (4°, 16°, 28°) and/or pisces (12°, 24°) stellium: emotional sponges :).

12h stellium: these people are what i like to call emotionally porous...

cancer (4°, 16°, 28°) and pisces (12°, 24°) moon: prone to being sensitive and crying easily.

12h moons: tends to cry in solitude and/or when they are overwhelmed.

moon negatively aspecting venus: tends to cry a lot of the time from pain and hurt in their love life.

moon-saturn: they tend to repress their emotions then suddenly they can't not release them.

moon conjunct neptune: these people are empaths and tend to get psychically overloaded.

moon negatively aspecting neptune or pluto: prone to intense emotional experiences.

pisces (12°, 24°) venus: cries over anything they find beautiful/moving.

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mediums and magnets for the paranormal in astrology

i'm going to work off of what i already have posted (no asteroids discussed after this post will be included or added after the fact). i would like to also state that NO TWO CHARTS ARE THE SAME. what i am about to list out does not mean you will for sure need these exact things (or all of these things) to be have experienced a paranormal phenomena (it could have to do with transits or even the synastry between you and the spirit for all we know). if you don't understand my thought process feel free to comment with questions!

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scorpio (8°, 20°) sun or rising: scorpio is associated with the occult, mysteries, and transformation. individuals with strong scorpio placements like these where it is core to how they are energetically seen in the world may be more drawn to or attracted experiences with paranormal phenomenas.

scorpio (8°, 20°) anubis (1912), 8h anubis (1912), and/or anubis (1912) aspecting pluto: god of mummification and the afterlife, he does not communicate directly with spirits, but oversees the process of death and ensures that the dead are properly prepared for their journey into the next world. he acts as a bridge between the living and the dead, playing a crucial role in the transition of souls.

scorpio (8°, 20°) hermes (69230) and/or hermes (69230) aspecting mercury: he was responsible for guiding souls to the underworld. he acts as a messenger between the gods and mortals, crossing the boundary between worlds with ease. hermes served as a divine medium, facilitating communication between the living, the dead, and the divine.

scorpio (8°, 20°) hekate (100), 8h or 12h hekate (100), and/or hekate (100) aspecting pluto: often associated with the spirit world and mediumship. she is believed to have the ability to communicate with spirits and guide souls between the realms of the living and the dead.

scorpio (8°, 20°), capricorn (10°, 22°), or pisces (12°, 24°) orpheus (3361), 8h orpheus (3361), and/or orpheus (3361) aspecting mercury and/or pluto: he descended into the underworld to retrieve his wife after her death. orpheus crosses the boundary between life and death to communicate with the spirits of the dead.

capricorn (10°, 22°) personal placements: its like they are magnets for spirits; i feel like it has to do with their relation to saturn - sometimes the boundaries between this realm and another is thinner for them and/or their energy just attracts spirits in need.

pisces (12°, 24°) moon or rising: pisces is highly sensitive and spiritually attuned, so having personal placements like the moon or ascendant in pisces can indicate being viewed as receptive to otherworldly experiences.

pisces (12°, 24°) pythia (432) and/or pythia (432) aspecting mercury and/or neptune: gifted with divine communication. pythia was one of the most famous examples of mediumship in mythology.

moon-pluto aspects: tend to indicate a deep connection to the unconscious, potentially leading to encounters with intense, transformative experiences, including paranormal activity (its like a horror movie placement where you are so shocked that you question having seen anything in the first place).

neptune aspecting the moon and/or mercury: these people can have enhance psychic abilities and can communicate with the spirit realm.

neptune dominance: this planet rules dreams, illusions, and, the star of this show, spirituality.

strong neptune placements like 1h/8h/12h or aspects made to neptune, especially to the moon, could enhance intuition and psychic experiences.

1h, 4h, 8h, or 12h pluto: this is a planet linked to the underworld, death, and rebirth, and is often associated with transformative or supernatural experiences. it can suggest personal encounters with the unknown.

7h pisces (12°, 24°): these people tend to walk hand in hand with spirit. they can be strong mediums.

8h/12h placements: 8h governs death, transformation, and the occult. 12h is the house that rules the unseen, the subconscious, and hidden aspects of life.

especially placements like the moon, neptune, and/or pluto, can indicate a connection to the paranormal or spiritual realms and often suggest a natural inclination towards paranormal experiences.

8h or 12h uranus: uranus is linked to sudden insights and unconventional experiences. in these houses, which are tied to death, the unconscious, and the mystical having a psychic encounter is likely.

8h or 12h neptune: these people are generally more attuned to the spirit world.

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solar return chart observations (marital edition)

i would like to first state that NO TWO CHARTS ARE THE SAME. what i am about to list out does not mean you will for sure need these exact things (or all of these things) to find your person. if you don’t understand my thought process feel free to comment with questions!

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indications of meeting your person

any couple asteroids that aspect from the 1h based on who you are trying to attract; if you are the feminine, your masculine would be in the 1h or vice versa. EXAMPLES OF MARRIED COUPLES OF MYTH:

- juno (3) - JUPITER

- kleopatra (216) - caesar (18458)

- heracles (5143) - dejanira (157) / hebe (6)

- orpheus (3361) - eurydike (75)

3h juno

5h sun 

6h venus

5h/7h vertex

venus at 0°, 2°, 7°, 14°, 19°, or 26°

a partner represented asteroid (listed above) at a fame/success degree (1°, 2°, 17°, 28°, 29°)

jupiter with venus attributes (ruled by libra or taurus or at those degrees (2°, 7°, 14°, 19°, or 26°))

jupiter at a fame/success degree (1°, 2°, 17°, 28°, 29°)

sun-jupiter, venus-jupiter (typically a trine), and mars-jupiter; i can’t explain why it’s always this trio in the solar returns i am looking at - maybe its because sun is the male, jupiter is the husband, venus is passion, and mars is desire.

indications of a proposal

mercury (gemini or virgo) ruled 7h - no, i wouldn’t count degrees in this. oddly, what i have noticed is virgo 7h solar returns lead to broken off engagements? perhaps not always but oftentimes ya lol.

7h mars; mars is both ambition and assertion with passion both are generally found in proposals.

8h vertex

mercury-saturn and/or jupiter-saturn; it’s giving “til death do we part vibes” also saturn is fidelity so these two aspects are good indicators that the proposal with be that of long-term commitment.

mercury-venus

mercury-jupiter

venus-mars

venus-saturn

mars-saturn

orpheus (3361) - eurydike (75); in all the charts i looked at of married couples they have a positive aspect between these two asteroids the year they were proposed to. it’s hyper specific but makes sense when you read the myth.

indications of getting married

6h vertex

7h libra

7h venus 

8h mars

moon-saturn positive aspects

mercury-mars

venus-jupiter

jupiter-saturn

pluto-asc or pluto-mc; this is a good thing, you want to see a change in your appearance/status in society.

1h chiron or chiron-asc; to me this could make you appear as someone who dotes on others (aka the husband).

juno (3) - asc

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"when talking about such a popular god/ goddess/hero i am going to for warn paraphrasing - of course all these stories have more details and all these popular gods have stories within stories. i would love to share them all/in detail but i would need a book and a lot more time to write it. my attempt in writing these posts are to inform you on the high level story of the god’s or goddess’s life. that being said if any one of the events regaled in the post pique you interest - please let me know i don’t mind giving a more in-depth tale of any of the events mentioned."

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Son of King Aeson and leader of the Argonauts, Jason was sent away at a young age before he was more than just a boy prince. His uncle seized the land his father ruled - his father sent Chiron to raise him due to this. When he returned to his homeland as a young man, he came upon an old woman near a river who asked him to help her cross it. Jason took the woman across on his shoulders - this woman was Hera, who his uncle allegedly had been neglecting to worship. Hera inspired the boy to see his uncle. Pelias immediately felt mortified as he noted Jason was missing a sandal - for years he worried that someone would challenge him. So, in those years, he visited with an oracle who told him that he should be wary of a man with only one sandal. He immediately feared his nephew was there to steal his throne - so he questioned Jason about what he would do if someone challenged his reign. Jason answered as that he would send them on a quest for the Golden Fleece - these words were spoken by Jason but were guided by Hera once more. Pelias told him that is what Jason would have to do to prove he was the rightful king of the land. Jason was off to start readying himself for the journey - with Athena's guidance, he found the shipbuilder Argus who crafted Jason's ship, the Argo. He then recruited the Argonauts: Heracles, Castor, Pollux, Meleager, Orpheus, Peleus, and Telamon. Jason and the Argonauts traveled to islands made up of cursed women, six-armed men, Amazons, etc. Eventually he received the fleece with the help of the enchantress Medea (this part of the story, I have told - I will leave it to her post because, let's face it, she did basically all the work). The two fled together under near constant chase of her family - until eventually they found that if they were married they would have no right to chase after her. The two married; as we know from her side of the myth their relationship is an odd one. She tricks his cousins into killing their father King Pelias, his cousin kicks him out, Jason remarries - not really because Medea burns her in her wedding gown, Medea kills their children, etc. Unsurprisingly, Jason is abandoned by the gods because of his disloyalty to Medea and their shared vows. Jason then lives out the rest of his days alone - ironically, the rotting Argo collapses on him and Jason dies from a crush wound in his sleep. IN MY OPINION Jason in your chart can represent a) how you can improve your leadership skills, b) where you are a pawn in karma's game, c) where the gods guide you, d) where you get a lot of help from others, and/or e) how/where your break vows.

i encourage you to look into the aspects of jason along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of jason AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede jason!

OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS: hera (103), heracles (5143), athene (881), pallas (2), orpheus (3361), chiron (2060), peleus (11311), telamon (1749), and medea (212)!

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sirens, creatures of the sea (asteroid 1009)

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The origin of the sirens is relatively vague - likely stretching beyond Greek myth but my post will focus on the appearance of sirens in mythos. The sirens are typically described as birdlike women who sing to lure sailors to their death. Some legends say that sirens can only be women - it is noted that sirens were both men and women, but the art depicting both disappeared around the fifth century (beyond the fifth century, art depicts only women as sirens). Notably they were said to preside in the western sea of Aeaea, the rocks of Scylla, and coastal region of Naples, Italy. The creation of this race is thought to have arisen with the sea god of Phorcys or the river god, Achelous, and one of the muse. Various poets have written of their existence: Homer's The Odyssey depicts Circe advising Odysseus to stifle his and his crew's ears with wax. Odysseus wished to hear the song of the sirens so he was tied to the mast of his ship. In Apollonius's Jason and the Argonauts, the crew escapes because of the famous singer Orpheus - who's singing was so beautiful that it distracted the crew from the sirens's song. Ovid's Metamorphoses states that the sirens (likely a type of water nymph in Ovid's eyes) were the companions of Persephone. When Hades abducted Persephone, the sirens prayed for wings so they could leave the sea and find Persephone. Demeter granted this wish and let them have their wings - it is likely that Ovid is mythologizing and hypothesizing the evolution of sirens to the origin of the harpies. IN MY OPINION Sirene in your chart can represent a) where you draw others in, b) where you compel others, c) your relationship with water, d) where not many can resist listening to you, and/or e) how you transform to help your friend.

i encourage you to look into the aspects of sirene along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of sirene AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede sirene!

OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS: homerus (5700), circe (34), odysseus (1143), ulysses (5254), jason (6063), orpheus (3361), ovidius (2800), persephone (399), hades (h41), and demeter (1108)!

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orpheus, the poet and prophet (asteroid 3361)

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Orpheus was the son of the muse Calliope - and became a renowned poet and musician. Apollo (who may have been his father - some say he was fathered by a king) himself taught the boy to play the lyre during the boy's youth. It is believed that his playing was so beautiful that animals and trees would dance to the music and his music has even saved the Argonauts from sirens. Even his singing made gods weep at the sheer beauty of his melodies - when his wife died he sang such a beautiful dirge that the gods allowed him to go to the Underworld and bring her back. He was even capable of swaying Hades into allowing him to bring Eurydice, his wife, back (that’s a hardship we all know gods of the dead don’t allow on principle) with his singing. Some say all of the Underworld froze to listen to his song - Charon stopped rowing, Tantalus stopped reaching for fruit, etc. Hades said that he would allow him to guide her out of the Underworld but Orpheus was not allowed to look back to see if she was following. As the journey out of the Underworld went on, he grew paranoid that she was not behind him. Right at the entrance he peaked over his should and saw her - a look of terror crossed her face as she was yank back into the Underworld. For the rest of his days he loved no other and he only played sad music. Followers of Dionysus heard his music and tried to sleep with him to make him happy again. When he rejected them, they attempted to drown out his songs with happier ones. When that didn't work, they drowned him and threw his lyre in the lake with him. Only in death did Orpheus reunite with Eurydice. IN MY OPINION Orpheus in a chart represents a) musical talent, b) where you are heard and sympathized with, c) how/where you will go to show you love/care for someone, d) where you may catch everyone's attention, e) how your anxiety gets the better of you when in love, and/or f) your loyalty.

bruh i'm gonna take a minute to cry bc I have orpheus conjunct eurydike in my 7h - IM NOT OKAY

dddssd, you may have an in-the-spotlight personality like orpheus - he constantly made others pause so listen they could listen to his music - this may be what is reflected in the asteroid being in your 1h. i’d say that conjunct venus could be talent like his (may be more talented than you know if it aspects asteroid kalliope or apollo) or romance similar to his (check on the aspects and location to eurydike for this verification). let me know if you need anymore clarification. thank you for recommending his asteroid otherwise I may have never checked it in my own chart ^^^.

i encourage you to look into the aspects of orpheus along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of orpheus AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede orpheus!

OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS/PLANETS: apollo (1862), eurydike (75), tantalus (2102), dionysus (3671), cerberus (1865), persephone (399), kalliope (22), sirene (1009), and hades (h41).

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I just saw your post about the asteroid persephone(399). I have this asteroid in capricorn 8th house and it conjuncts my moon, sextile my sun and trine my ascendant.

What does this mean?

Thank you, I hope you have a great day!💕

hi, dahliasrealm-xox. i’m hanging in there! it’s my first week back at college so i’m trying to find my balance once more!

sure let’s talk about it.

capricorn persephone: despoine and kore are both words/titles used to describe persephone. both are seemingly something to be intimidated by. despoine is the “dreaded” meaning that there were some “he who shall not be named” / “you know who” vibes going on - like it was the wizarding world and you are the ever intimidating and powerful voldemort. kore means “the girl” which could be taken as people not wanting to attract your attention out of fear and preferring to say something vague over a name (or it could be the asc aspect description below). that being said you may be rather insecure because of other; people’s hot and cold attitude towards you may make you feel rather isolated. the thing about this is that you have conflicting feelings about this; sometimes you enjoy feeling powerful and sometimes you feel bad that you are feared. on the other hand, people like orpheus may come to you because they know you have both power and empathy compared to your counterparts!

8h persephone: HAHHA this is major - i’m in the underworld vibes! this may indicate you being someone who goes through environmental changes - persephone is a spring child living in a world of darkness HER NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IS WARM AND BRIGHT NOT COLD AND DARK LOL. you too may have something similar in your life, you may live in a world where you are a darker element surrounded by brightness in both environment and company or you are a lighter element surrounded by darkness. you may feel like your mood is heavily effected by these conditions.

sun-persephone: positive aspects: it’s very likely that you are capable of finding the good in most every situation. the sun promotes independence but persephone really didn’t have any, you too may be in the same boat but instead of mopping about your circumstances, you are making the most of it! you too can radiate warmth like both the sun and persephone. you are rather unlikely to discover many bystanders in your life, you may find people with authority or masculine people sticking up for you when needed. you like persephone, may have a noteworthy presence - persephone is queen and the sun is royalty and figure heads after all… you may find yourself in a seat of power eventually.

moon-persephone: positive aspects: your natural instincts regarding situations are likely spot on. if you feel uneasy - trust it, you know what’s up. you may have a lot of dreams regarding power or having a platform built for attention. you may become a feminine icon for those around you, as well as those who proceed you - your name and story are very likely to be remembered. you may find that you’re mother is willing to do ANYTHING for you, it doesn’t matter what it is or why. you likely have a green thumb or knack for healing and growing everything you touch. negative aspects: you may deal with a lot of emotions surrounding your isolation from others. you may not feel secure - knowing that your choices aren’t your own and you simply have to deal with it. you may have a very strange and strained relationship your family; some members you love and others you can’t stand. it could be that you find your mother overbearing! you may be slow to adapt to new circumstances that you find yourself in. you may find yourself annoyed at you feminine roles, i.e.: waiting to be saved, forced to be a wife, arranged marriage, etc.

asc-persephone: positive aspects: persephone is sometimes referred to as the girl or kore in mycenaean history. so you may have an “it girl” vibe. you could appear as ultra-feminine. you may also have a bit of the “i need rescuing” look to those around you causing others to step up to the occasion. you also may be hyper-aware of your situation - you know when you are trapped or your time is being used by others. you may also have a notable presence in any environment in which you stand - persephone was seen in a field of flowers but hades in the underworld, helios who was pulling the sun, and even hecate who could have been doing anything else (she’s literally hecate).

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