I think the essence of what drives me crazy about current Enlightened Online Leftist Discourse Regarding My Life Personally And Whether This Time Killing Me Is Morally Correct (as in, commentary about the latest episode in i/p violence) is this:
I want a free Palestine.
I don't personally know a lot of people that don't! They might bristle at the tagline, because it's co-opted by people who do in fact want them dead, but as soon as I lay out why it's in literally everyone's best interest, how a non-free Palestine is horrific both to the people of Israel and to the people of Palestine, how pragmatically ridiculous the occupation of the west bank and the siege upon Gaza are (and I am a very pragmatic person), they get it. And I don't mean I debate people online about it - this, too, is a ridiculous concept - I mean having, time and time again, the deradicalization conversation with my friends, and colleagues, and my family. Obviously not only now - I've always been a very principled and argumentative Jew, ever since I became an adult - and I've been alive for, I don't know, a dozen flashpoints and operations and wars at this point, and I don't stop being argumentative and loud in peacetime either, but especially now.
But that's not what "from the river to the sea" means.
When you, gentle soul from across the sea, echo this slogan, you are either:
By apathy or will, ignoring that the sentiment cheers for the mass expulsion and killing of Jews. Indeed, any non-Muslim present from the river to the sea. This doesn't even begin to cover how even Muslim arabs still will not be safe under Hamas rule - and trust me, I don't care if a Hamas apologist told you different. A victory for Hamas (And we're ignoring the fact they do not have the military capacity for it - I hope you are aware of the privilege inherent to not understanding military conflicts) means exactly that. No "rule by the people". No socialistic, Palestinian utopia to be had, which is a fantasy I'm seeing alluded to a lot recently. Just an extension of the horrific power structure in Lebanon and Syria, where Hezbollah - friends and allies to Hamas - have been playing a tango for decades of both refusing to participate in actual government and betterment of civilian lives, while still draining their resources and controlling them with no real contest. "From the river to the sea" is not a sentiment for freedom fighting - it's a sentiment for a final solution to the people living here who are either Jewish, or for some Very Strange And Weird Reason would rather not submit to Hamas rule. You know - Israeli Arabs, secular and Muslim and Christian, Druze, Circassians, Bahai, take your pick. Their suffering, and my suffering - you know, a person who made the strategic error of being born in Israel while Jewish, which is inherently problematic and not okay of me - don't matter to you. Just the fantasy of an easy, morally correct cleanse of the land.
Are well aware of all of the above! You just don't care. You either smugly chuckle that I, and anybody else who will die, deserve it - or that it's an acceptable loss for the aforementioned fantasy. "Decolonization is an inherently violent process", you'll say to me, chillingly, before implying I have a summer home in Brooklyn I can just retreat to when things get tough. Israel is basically Rhodesia, a very popular blog here mentioned flippantly, so what's the issue with all of those lily-white Jews fucking off back home before the righteous freedom fighters strike them down? Well. This might be the part I urge you to open a book, or even Wikipedia or any god damn thing that will explain to you these upsetting, dense things you clearly struggle with.
It's easy for me to discount islamophobes. Like, very easy. It's very easy for me to discount insane evangelistics who "advocate for me" simply because I'm a pawn in their religious rapture. It's easy for me to fight against Israeli and Jewish fascists - I have been long before this news item came across your feed, as did the insinuations that some civilian deaths are okay, actually.
It's easy for me for me to see promotions for BDS, and donations to non-political aid in Gaza. It's easy for me to see the sentiment that hey! Palestinians deserve safe, healthy lives. That they have deserved an independent state, and were unfairly denied one, for decades. It's easy for me to see people saying "You know, the Israeli government is shit, actually, and their actions endanger and promote to the misery of innocents". Because that's right! I wouldn't be voting and protesting and donating for all of these sentiments otherwise!
It's not easy for me to see people, who I honestly held in high regard and saw having well thought out opinions on important matters, inadvertently echo the sentiment that my death is acceptable. That a terrorist organization, who rule over their own territory with fear and violence, are righteous freedom fighters, vox populi, only out to establish a free state. Like hey, their manifesto said otherwise, so it must be all there is - right? That Jews are just hysterical, they can easily live elsewhere - ever since that nasty holocaust business everything's fine abroad. Besides, it was just so long ago who even cares stop talking about it. Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, the Ayatollahs in Iran, the fucking Islamic Jihad - are not interested in freedom. They aren't, and echoing their slogan tells me you are either ignoring that, or support them anyway. If antisemitic rhetoric, half truths and lies by omission work on you today, they would have in any period of time. I'm sorry this makes you uncomfortable. I'm not, not really.
So finally:
Know what your fucking words mean. Have a cursory glance at the history of the MENA and why it's so fucked, one that doesn't boil down to "The Jews, with American help, rolled into where they don't belong". This isn't even a joke. I've seen this braindead, history-revising sentiment repeated so many times, both online and in actual textbooks, that I feel I'm going insane. So many well-meaning people handwringing and assuring each other that repeating genocidal slogans is fine, that calling the i/p conflict "a simple problem" (which means it has a simple solution, right? Just kill the Jews.) is a well-adjusted and intellectual take. That "only the Zionists should die! The rest will be fine :)" I dare you to say that and also give me a correct definition of what Zionism is. Why I, a Jew that advocates for Palestinian statehood and rights and safety and always have, won't also face the wall in your little fantasy.
Freedom to Palestine. Peace in the middle east, fucking yesterday.
A curse and a plague on those who don't want either of those, and just want to cheer on the death of "the other side".
A curse and a plague upon you, when you tell me, smugly, from somewhere safe and far away, "from the river to the sea".
@bithcy I'm so glad you understand I mean well, bless your heart.
I'm telling you this is a slogan that calls for my death. Mine, personally. It calls for the death of my family. It calls for the death of my brothers and sisters and cousins of any ethnicity you like, so long as we happen to live here (and remember, most of the time just from making the crazy mistake of being born here). It is chanted by a terrorist organization that would have no qualms over shooting me dead or worse, and have tried to do so on numerous occasions since I was born. An experience you, and you will allow me this assumption, did not have. I would be a trophy to them, a cause for celebration (with chanting of the same slogan, of course!). It is chanted by people abroad, of any political affiliation you like, who make light of my death, and of Jewish suffering, since they were told it's fine and that Jews are hysterical and it's just the filthy Zionists who should be worried.
If Jews, Israeli and in the diaspora, telling you that this is a call to kill them and their families, cushioned as it might be, is not enough for you - I don't know what to tell you further. It tells me for certain you would ignore other dogwhistles, and ignore the people they actually threaten, so long as you feel safe enough doing it.
And I hope you question it, I really really do, but I think right now it feels safe to not question it. I think it feels fine and righteous to ignore me. I'm sure you feel fine with that.
Idk if it's true or not, but someone who speaks Arab did point out that the full translation in English is not actually "Palestine will be Free" but "Palestine will be Arab."
Ya it's a call for genocide of anyone but the arab colonizers who took over the region.
I don't expect the congresswoman to admit that, not only is she a vile human being filled with hate but she's also a politician and they have trouble with the truth at the best of times.
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He views detention centers so ICE can process people for deportation as âconcentration campsâ and then in the same breath thinks re-education camps are how they can get people on their side.
This is a guy who has called Trump a Nazi and a fascist for the last 10 years.
Thereâs a communist in Maine running as a Dem, who has a Nazi tattoo, said our troops deserved to die, and has been discovered to have been cheating on his wife.
But heâs on the blue team, so none of that matters to leftists. âVote blue no matter whoâ, well now that âwhoâ is literally a Nazi.
It's funny how often people go "oh, you shouldn't care about things that don't personally affect you" while they're mad about things that don't personally affect them.
What if the neighbour is running a crack den? Or is a fire hazard? Or the house is wildly over-occupired? What if there's a credible chance they're going to sic their dog on yours?
"You're comparing illegal immigration to crack dens?"
No, I'm saying that "doesn't affect you" is a stupid standard, and its use in this context is blatant special pleading.
Also, I'm saying it's hypocritical for him to say illegal immigrants are just "neighbours" and should therefore get compassion, while he wants to do things to his wild, baseless stereotype of conservatives that are even worse than detaining and deporting illegal immigrants.
Internet socialists always talk about the things they think they should get for free, they never talk about the labor they themselves will provide for free.
in our school we (students) all painted on the walls (w permissions ofc)
What we got is a nice beautiful school. And of course we did it for free.
Near where i live we needed more permanent shade so we planted trees
No one paid us, why would they?
The whole point of a collaborative society is working together without the expectation of individual monetary gain (for the record I grew up in a socialist/used to be communist place and I'm kinda torn about the ideology)
Tldr my ramble: in a communist society you can't expect major monetary gain for your actions. Your compensation would be the results (more shade, prettier place, etc)
Ironically, âpeople voluntarily do things they already want to doâ is also the argument ancaps have for how their anarchist utopia will survive without ever coercing anyone.
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tbh Esme was tragically underutilized in the twilight saga. like a woman who is forever frozen in the early stages of motherhood, turning the grief for her son into a fierce need to mother every person that walks into her home?? that Bella was a character who was in desperate need of a mother and Esme was right there in desperate need to always BE a mother?? and then she was literally never used unless she was mothering Edward or glued to Carlisleâs hip, despite the fact that she should have probably been more important to Bella than Carlisle ever was
Genuinely, one of the measures that's stopped book banning the most when districts implement it, is having the would-be banners fill out a form that demonstrates if they've read the book or not. Like where they have the summarize the plot and characters and do a mini book report and give a review. It stops them in their tracks. This is why in my high school, every time someone wanted to ban a book it ended up going nowhere. There was one where a conservative student wanted to ban the manga "Legal Drug" for having a marijuana leaf on the cover, then got the form that required them to actually read and either balked, or read it and realized it was not pro-drug at all.
(The other one that reduces book bans even further is "requiring the would-be banner to be affiliated with this actual school in some way, either by being a student, faculty/staff or a parent of a child at the school" because the vast majority of bans are "activists" with no affiliation with the school who just travel around trying to do this in districts all over the U.S. IIRC a few years ago someone crunched the numbers and just 51 parents were responsible for all the book bans that year nationally. 51! In a country with 50 states, with over 300 million people total!)
I'm reminded of these recordings of school board meetings where right-wing activists read out of "LGBT" books from school libraries, and the progressive members of the school board say "You can't say vagina in here. That book is obscene! Where did you get that?"
Sometimes I have the feeling nobody reads, but some people just like the idea of reading, the idea of education, but neither side actually reads these books. The side that doesn't want to read books, but wants the right to read books, is still preferable to the side that hates the idea of reading, but don't be fooled. It's two bald men fighting over a comb.
One of the most controversial books that was supposedly inappropriate for kids had a graphic depiction of a blowjob. It can't even be posted on tumblr without censorship.
Itâs really not the best idea to share these things without context. Especially when white people sit here and try to use these things as evidence that black people and our movements are harmful. They said the same thing about marches on Selma and the like.
So for context, the âla riotsâ or more properly termed the La uprising was a result of the absolutely brutal and horrific beating and torture of Rodney King at the hands of LA PD and the subsequent acquittal of all the officers involved. So when you say âdifferent decade, same shitâ the âsame shitâ is the horrific systemic racism that leads to the death and torture of black people and the absolution of white racists and dismissal by white Americans which in turn spurns justified outrage.
Itâs also important to note that the brunt of the damage occurred in Korea town because a few days after the brutality showed to Rodney King, a Korean shop owner shot a 14 year old black girl in the head because he falsely accused her of shop lifting. The shop owner was given a criminally light sentence which also sparked outrage.
The reason that there were black shop owners affected by these things is that in tandem with the shooting, gentrification saw Asian and Latino people overtaking black neighborhoods and displacing the local black communities in Los Angeles. So while these attacks were focused on members of the Korean community in Los Angeles, there were black shops that got caught in the crossfire.
Itâs also important to know that almost all of the people injured and left dead were black people at the hands of a fiercely and swiftly militarized police force.
The aftermath of the LA uprising saw 2 of the officers brought up on federal charges of civil rights violations and found them guilty while the other 2 were again acquitted.
11,000 people, most of whom were black, were arrested and saw harsher punishment than the officers who beat Rodney king and the shop owner who fatally shot a 15 year old girl.
So the increasing burden of systemic racism, extreme poverty, displacement, and finally the public brutality shown to black people with absolutely no chance at justice reached a boiling point which resulted in the 1992 LA uprising.
So rather than hyper focusing on the unfortunate fact that some black business owners get caught in the cross fire as a way to pretend that you care about the material damages done to black people, how about we focus on the conditions that continue to result in these kinds of tragedies in the first place by addressing institutional white supremacy and its resulting cyclical poverty and oppression.
You cannot use one black manâs outage as a political weapon while ignoring the rest because that truth does not suit your racist agenda
So how does what you said make it ok that his business was burned down? How does that make it acceptable? How does it make it not a terrible, awful thing for those guys to have done to him?
Surprising no-one, afronerdism reblogged herself to complain about âwhite peopleâ âtrying to goad [her] into arguingâ, because theyâre clearly all âbad faithâ âracistsâ.
Even though she literally came onto this post to argue, canât tell the race of the people disagreeing, and, oh yes, has me blocked even though Iâm a black guy.
In short, sheâs playing the victim because her fragile little ego canât let her followers see anyone who criticizes her, even if sheâs doing it to defend her stupid, stupid, racist apologia.
If she was really secure, sheâd just ignore the critics. And in her attempts to sympathy bait, sheâs accidentally directing some of her followers to the notes. Whoops.
PS: I like how she complains about people âhyperfocusingâ on the damage to the black guy, as if her problem is that theyâre focusing too much, and not that theyâre focusing at all. Class, you may recognize that little trick from feminist discourse on âhyper-sexualizationâ, which is totally different from complaining about sexy female characters.
when someone is completely fucking wrong about your blorbo but you don't want to argue about what basically boils down to opinions about shit that doesn't matter so you just sit there like
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The most embarrassing spn takes are the ones that not only donât accurately describe the character but it just makes you wonder how this even works with your shipping.
So by this logicâŚ.why would you ship Destiel let alone even like Castiel? You know who threatened to throw Dean back in hell? Broke Samâs wall just to distract him? This character actively used Deanâs trauma against him all the time and you think itâs cute to ship him with Dean. How does that even work?! Heâs betrayed the brothers multiple, gone behind their backs and used Sam as leverage against Dean. Tell me why this is suddenly acceptable.
Now on to Sam. How exactly is he classicist? This is the one tripping me up. I donât know where youâre getting that. Heâs never once looked down on anyone for their class and why would he? Heâs a Stanford student that only could go on a full ride because of his scores. He lived in and out of hotels his whole life. What are you talking about? Are we using words again we donât know because this isnât being applied right.
Which makes their use of the word hypocrisy quite ironic here. Fictional accounts of Sam using Deanâs trauma against him makes Sam the worst, Castiel ACTUALLY doing that on multiple occasions is totes true love. You see why spn fandom takes can be the stupidest shit youâve ever seen?
They ultimately just proved they donât really have an issue with Sam. They had to INVENT one to justify it while they dismiss this very behavior from Cas.
I feel like that whole thing was less about actually saying Kirk deserved it, and more about trying to make a ) the right look less like victims, and/or b) making an almost certainly left-wing shooter seem less bad.
Remember Charlottesville? People got mad at Trump because they were told he didn't disavow the Nazis (he did, explicitly), but somehow it's okay for countless left-wingers to water-carry for a terrorist assassin.
Again.
Of course, plenty of left-wingers were disgusted with that behavior, including you.
I'm not Jewish but watching people on the left not only unironically but casually repeat the kind of shit that the OG Nazis were saying in the 30s and then disregard me when I tell them that (with receipts) is scary AF. Somewhere down the line, the ideas and language of social justice got swerved in a very bad way so that antisemitism would still be "ok."
This was actually completely obvious when you realize modern social justice isn't about lifting up the needy, bit tearing down "The Oppressor" and encouraging cruelty manipulation and ostracization against those deemed as part of "the oppressor", along with the absolute insane and blatantly untrue rhetoric that Free Speech and Gun Ownership were things used only by "The Oppressor" as tools to "Oppress."
All of which i cannot possibly overstate should've been massive red flags for anyone who paid attention to how the Nazis came to power.
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i think one of the worst things the left wing internet ever did was push the idea that oppression is basically a virtue, and being oppressed is a sign of your morality. it has made it likeâŚimpossible for some of you to hold the idea that most people are privileged in some ways and oppressed in others. AND a lot of you seem to have it in your mind that terrible people cannot be oppressed, and that oppressed people cannot do terrible things, which is a dangerous rhetoric to hold imo.
Also the practice of making Oppressed and Oppressor a part of group identity, rather than a matter of circumstances.
In this mind set nothing bad that happens to anyone whose 'group' is labelled 'Oppressor' is ever as bad as that which happens to those whose 'group' is labelled as'Oppressed '.
In the same way. Nothing bad done by anyone whose 'group' is labelled 'Oppressed' is ever as bad as that done by those whose 'group' is labelled as 'Oppressor '.
All that gets us is dehumanization and more injustice.
âWhat if she gets brain damage or something?â
âOh shit! Is that like a real thing?â
âNo, itâs not, he made it up. Mike doesnât know what the hell he is talking about.â
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