Samanddeanunited

s6e22. castiel when i get you. he’s actually such a fucking dipshit. i know you need to stop Raphael, i fucking know that. no one wants the apocalypse. but you could, like several angels have said before, MAKE AN ARMY. not CRACK OPEN PURGATORY AND BECOME THE VESSEL EVERY EVIL SOUL THERE IS. are you stupid? some monsters may no be evil, but a majority of them are based of instinct. and instinct is to kill, eat, survive. the rest are evil or trying to suppress it. but your just too good for that huh? you can take it on and destroy Jimmy Novak once again? you can gamble earth’s safety for this?

in the apocalypse, at least a majority of people will survive. If you blow up and a chunk of earth explodes, just as much people will die. you can’t just live without a chunk of earth. 

and then the AUDACITY to break down Sam’s wall and say “when this is over, i will save Sam” knowing damn well HE CAN’T. He’s going to put Sam through the memories of centuries of trauma to make him catatonic. you are using sam’s trauma and dean’s protectiveness against them. your exploiting their vulnerability to get them out of your way. you are threatening the planets well being, every loves well being, heaven and hells well being, your friends well being, sam’s soul, DEAN’s well being. everyone’s well being just so you have a chance of winning a war against something you had other choices to do.

what mostly bothers me though is the smaller stuff. on a grand scale, all of what he is doing is wrong but can be “justified” by the greater good: stopping the apocalypse from restarting. but the small things like lying to your friends? letting crowley kidnap Dean’s only people outside of hunting? breaking down sam’s wall and releasing centuries of rape, or torture, but Lucifer and micheal to save some time? especially knowing damn well you CANNOT save Sam. and phrasing it like that pisses me off too. “i’ll save sam.” from what? from you? from what you just unlocked and put him through? dean has been carefully avoiding this and your just going to smash that wall go bits(not even break a bit off, no, he has to destroy the whole dam).

his “god” complex comes before he gets his purgatory souls. Crowley literally uses it against him several times. crowley knows and exploits that—sure he gets beaten up a few times and castiel does argue, but you can see castiel (more or less) preen at the fantasy. he may not want to rule over everyone— after all, he wants what Anna (the other angel he killed) wanted! “Free will”! only his version of it. he doesn’t even know what free will is. he knows the idea of it, the fantasy of it, but not what it really is. Castiel wants to be a new God. a “better” God that promotes “free will”. 

cute and all by why does it have to be him, hmm? “it just has to be” he says but why. because your all good intentions? i remember just like a season or two ago you were judging a certain someone for a situation not quite parallel to this(because he knows what he is doing and truly thinks he’s just so so good). he’s such a hypocrite.

I genuinely do not understand why Destiel has to be real, why Cockles has to be real. They can just be normal fantasies you share with others.

Again why do they need it to be "real"? Fanfiction is about enjoying a fantasy. It doesn't have to be canonized. That is the point! It is seeing what is not there and realizing it with art & writing

These people are evangelicals, and must push their "reality" on others. But this fervor is reaching a fever pitch. They are desperate because reality is encroaching six years after the show ended. They can no longer deny it, so they are throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks: accusations of homophobia (but not biphobia??), pulling out the few scraps of writers & other show runners hemming and hawing. Using stereotypes that harm queer communities as "proof". It is not enough, no one is buying it outside their circle. And Jensen has denied it yet again, as he has for years, but it feels permanent this time...like it finally hit them

Why do they need Jensen's approval so badly? Because it is Jensen they are waiting on to see the light. If they were remotely normal or sane they would enjoy what they enjoy without needing the word of one man. Their meltdown, double down over the past two months speaks to this, loud and clear. They need that final piece to be legitimate and they will never get it

No true prequel. No sequel or new season. JP doing projects he wants to do & publicly supporting JA. JA publicly supporting JP & waxing poetic about him to strangers. Whatever happened with prequel gate changed them but I think it is for the best, for their friendship to be solid and healthy as they entered their forties. (That is my opinion though, but hopefully my point still makes sense if you feel differently!)

Meanwhile MC desperate, jobless, broke and on the back foot when JA found out all the bullshit he has said with his fanatic legion. There may be Cockles panels in the future but not any time soon, that ship has sailed. Mitya pandered too hard, was greedy too soon, and now he is just a joke. We would not be so hard on his ability & aging appearance had his fans not put him on a palanquin and paraded him in our faces, had he been decent and not constantly and consistently foul & inappropriate

And as far as Cockles...someone recently dug up his divorce papers to see where the charity money was going & found nothing about a hidden chateau, nothing about visitation, just proof of him mismanaging his money. Not thinking ahead well enough. Thinking Castiel would be his foot in the door to new opportunities after SPN...but they overinflated his ego & he too lost sight of the truth

The well is drying up. Creation Entertainment knows it and is acting on it at last. The Cockles/Destiel fans know it subconsciously but their minds are so warped by the "support" (pandering) that was tossed at them for years, they must now find crumbs amid the actual truth: the show was the love story about two brothers. But it was never about Castiel.

You know I love my numbers. It helps anchor me to reality. It comforts me to see the scanty scene pack they have built their reality on. My reality is the show I watched & my fantasies about it are my own. I have shipped things over a single glance, but I have never wanted validation. I just have fun with friends.

Don't get me wrong, when the most fanatical Destiels are done and gone, SPN fandom will still be a mire of bullshit. There is a lot of annoying current infighting: Sam is abusive to Dean, or Dean is abusive to Sam, "that is reality" and they will try to enforce it, call you an abuse fetishizer. Blah blah fictional incest is wrong (well that is a big issue in any fandom now) & it is always abuse, so there. Then there are JA stans that have their own vile crusade against JP for some inscrutable reason. SPN has plenty to reckon with already!

But that is par the course. That is fandom, always has been, take it or leave it. It will just be satisfying to see the loudest, most intrusive minority voice crash and burn at last after being the SPN Fandom Police for so many years. They deserve it and more

Lynette not saying a word when someone is being anti padalecki is surprising. 🤣

But new fanfic dropped. Apparently Gen uses her Children for click and as Jensen adored Tom and Shep. He hated Gen now. And he went from being their godfather to strangers. Ackles believe in keeping children private. So ackles doesn't give a shit about Gen. What would Gen do, I wonder? Ackles hate her. Her life must be over. 🤣🤣🤣

Funniest shit ever was Misha hating Gen for same. Misha who was telling vulgar stories about his own children will teach others how to raise kid. These people are hilarious.

They have posted plenty of pictures of their kids and have even brought JJ to premieres and red carpet events. That’s more than the Padaleckis have done. In fact one year Danneel had all her kids in the Target pride shirts but ok. Danneel very much tried this angle but she couldn’t stick to anything. Somehow these same people didn’t mind when she did.

What’s funny is that apparently the two men who are never at home or don’t seem to have good parenting skills are somehow Fathers of the year. That’s rich.

They do love some rude and disgusting Jensen, don't they? One would think being a Jensen fan would stop them from saying things like this. I mean it just makes Jensen look like ass. It tells nothing about Jared and everything about Jensen.

How much of a coward he is to bitch about Jared behind his back.

"j2 fans are getting bold, we need the old Jared hating Jensen fan back" according to them. but the thing is that was the only time Jensen pandered to Misha and hellers, and that price he is still paying and deservedly so. He is hounded by them till now and he is in lawsuit for that prequel. When someone like something for months than drop like a hot potato, thats when we call in pandering. Not something that being going on since 20 years aka j2.

nfk comment is so disgusting that if i was a Jensen fan i would bury that moment down so no one would ever know. Jensen has such great fans. Totally deserved.

They have a sick and twisted mind with the way they need everyone to be a disgusting asshole to Jared. They want mitshit to hate him, Rob, Rich, hell they even couldn't wait for Antony to hate on him! There's something twisted with these people, anon.

Jared fans don’t care for toxic friends no matter who they are so even if they want Jared fans to cry about meanie Jensen, they won’t. They simply just won’t care about him. And many don’t.

Are these people like okay? A simple fan tweet enjoying chad and Jared's friendship really set them off? What the hell is wrong with them. Nobody asked for them. Jensen and Misha weren't even mentioned, why would they take up an innocent tweet and make it seem like Jared stans are bitter that Jensen doesn't give Jared attention so Jared stans are hoping for Chad to work with him. May be that person is genuine Chad/Jared fan.

Aren't these people doing exactly the same with Jensen/Justin/Anthony. they are the one actually comparing it with Jared, the OP didn't even compare. What kind of hypocrisy is this?

Shouldn't they be happy that we'd want Jared to work with someone who isn't Jensen? Who are they to even claim Jensen here? That tweet has nothing to do with him! Why are we supposed to be butter? Do they think we need Jensen? Good lord. Lol

I am SO SICK of Jensen’s name coming up every single time Jared fans want to geek over or delight in something about him. His projects (“Jensen’s a better actor! Derp), his marriage (“Jenneel is better! Derp), his other friends that have nothing to do with Jensen at all and he wasn’t even mentioned… somehow they always have to make it about that dude anyway. My god get it through your heads… we don’t fucking care about your fave.

This is funny. Lol It is a joke you morons, it's only a convention panel! You people are acting as if your dog died. 🤣🤣🤣And no, a scheduled J2 panel would never be cancelled so Jensen will have a panel with someone else. J2 are the leads, the draw of the cons whether you like it or not. The only time they're cancelled is when Jared cancels.

The superior duo??? Are you ok, anon?? The only superior duo here is J2. That's why the cons are as expensive as they are, and why they have the longevity they do. Because of the leads. And you want to know why we hate mitshit? There's plenty of reasons, I could write a book about it. I could also ask why you hate Jared so, but I don't care. You think you're allowed to shit on him and we're going to be all nice and polite to your fave? Think again.

1) MOST OF THEM EMAILING ARE NOT EVEN ATTENDING/NEVER ATTENDED ONE SUPERNATURAL CON

2) The ENT actually responded to one of their emails and said that people had actually asked for a JR2 panel.

3) Cockles/Destiel fans fail to realize that there is other fans out there OUTSIDE of twitter. JenMish panels don’t nearly enough money as J2 panels bring in given the prices AND the panels are sometimes for the money for spn cons.

4) That people that DO attend say that they use Misha panels to go have lunch, go do their pictures, or they just don’t stay because he’s full of nonsense. Misha only does his panels the way the Twitter fans like it, not how his general fans or ship likes it.

5) Lastly, it could ALLEGEDLY have something to do with Jensen just not wanting to do a panel with Misha. Purcon10 told a lot of stories and JenMish panels and interactions haven’t been the same IN THE PUBLIC EYE. Photo ops don’t tell a story, Jensen is known for always putting on a smile for the fans even if they are talking bullshit that he doesn’t want to hear or address that he probably has a million times.

If Elta would buy clothes from the thrift Story instead burning 8k on an atrocious jacket that probably not even a thriftstore would sell...they could give away that money.

That’s fucking hilarious coming from a woman who stans a man who looks like he has zero understanding of personal hygiene. Besides I’d take Jared being a hobo over Misha being a bum. At least Hobo’s were traditionally seen to have good work ethics. Whereas bums just sit on their arse and are lazy fuckers.

Lynette is literally justifying that theory as if its the literal gospel.

And I love how she think one group feels entitled enough. I mean j2ers can feel entitled enough and kick the "3rd wheel" i mean lead out if they want to. They are the fans of the main leads. Lynette can't possibly do the same though. Its unfair but thats what happens when you bet on the wrong horse. 😈

Second, I mean many of you participated in a campaign to get an entire SHOW off the air. Imagine trying to get THOUSANDS of people fired at the same time. You can ask your buddy Dot about that one.