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thathopeyetlives

FWIW, use of "performance enhancing drugs" such as steroidsbis supposedly an open secret in American Special Operations forces. There's even been conversation (from people who aren't political leadership) about a process to "responsibly" do this officially.

My understanding is that a lot of men in the USA do have "normal but historically actually really low" testosterone, and which seems like a real public health issue, but it's become a whole Thing for deeply concerning manosphere types who are very attached to a particular form of macho BS.

I have full confidence that Hegseth will act on this in the stupidest possible way.

noobnoob814

Militaries the world over have a long history of pumping various Fun And Interesting chemicals into their troops to varying success (see here basically every air force in WWII running on meth). If anything, finding a way to boost testosterone production during training would be less likely to screw up your system than half the things they're already putting in them. Y'know, modulo being implemented by someone not Hegseth.

AFAIK the discussion on "official" steroid use in the military is as much a response to many, many cases of soldiers trying to DIY steroids and injuring themselves in the process. A friend I was talking to recalled multiple cases of men developing breasts, and in one case even lactating, because they botched their testosterone boosting regiment due to a lack of medical knowledge.

thathopeyetlives

Also meth has been implicated in scandals of SOF guys doing weird crimes.

str-ngeloop

the trouble is with intellectual self-minimization is that there's an incentive for it -- never make any claims that anyone could take issue with and you'll never need to defend them and you'll never need to face-off against power-knowledge. Then again, I am seeing now how self-minimization could also be a more selfish way to protect beliefs that you worry deep down could be refuted by others in a way that you may find convincing. If you're attached to these positions and you're also attached to the identity of being someone with epistemic rigor, then you might avoid bringing these beliefs up in front of other people you trust and who you see as a justified epistemic authority for fear of having them confronted. For fear of either -- being forced to defend them -- even if you have a defense ready there's a social cost there, there's an emotional cost there -- but there's also an epistemic risk of being convinced that certain beliefs aren't justified. and being forced to abandon a position you're attached to, or forced to feel the ego-dystonic awareness that you're not as rigorous and ironclad as you saw yourself to be. and that others can see it too. I think, partly, I hold on to the notion of being a person who cares deeply about epistemic rigor because I hold positions that if seen at low resolution in bad faith could mark me as being part of a camp I don't actually want to associate with.

I also think that chains of logic built to defend positions from attacks (which are themselves motivated in various ways) are markedly different than the chains of logic one actually takes to arrive at a position, which is different again than the chains of logic you might present to teach people in an intelligent way. the pedagogic justification is different from the defensive justification is different than the immanent justification.

the-grey-tribe

Shit. I think there is actually something to it. I think giving your soldiers T level screening might actually be a good idea, and a clear improvement on the previous situation.

Well, it depends on the details, whether they eliminate bad incentives.

Well, it's clear that Hegseth is saying this for symbolic/totemic reasons, and the Tumblr response is just making fun of it all because balls, but there's a chance that this might be a smart move.

flakmaniak

Wait, what's the purpose? As in, don't you already have a bunch of evaluations you do on your troops, to figure out how good they are at... Various stuff? What does direct testosterone-measurement do here?

Is it something where you find some soldiers where you think it'd be low-hanging fruit to improve their (just physical?) performance by administering exogenous T?

I guess also, do armies tend to administer the various other banned-in-sports performance-enhancers, steroids and HGH and so on, to various soldiers? Is that even useful? I mean, generally you want 'em to be strong and fast, right...? And it's not like there's some "that's dishonorable" reason you can't do it... Or is it just a taboo? Are the Russians 'roiding up their soldiers, for all the good that does them?

the-grey-tribe

If there is actually a problem, for example if high speed low drag cool guys get "operator syndrome", i.e. traumatic balls injury from repeated muzzle blast, and they often self-medicate with bodybuilder stuff, risking dishonourable discharge for drug usage, then changing the rules is a good idea.

Shit. I think there is actually something to it. I think giving your soldiers T level screening might actually be a good idea, and a clear improvement on the previous situation.

Well, it depends on the details, whether they eliminate bad incentives.

Well, it's clear that Hegseth is saying this for symbolic/totemic reasons, and the Tumblr response is just making fun of it all because balls, but there's a chance that this might be a smart move.

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phaeton-flier

There's an important lesson here, which is that stuff tends to get done by the people who just... Show up and do stuff. Just taking initiative and starting things often gives you a lot of decision power. There are no adultier adults who are in charge—just whoever is trying things.

milliebobbyflay

people like saying community when they mean demographic

helenvaughans

the thing is that for all its supposed faults, i would take this brand of 90s utopian globalism over whatever the fuck we’ve been doing for the last 10 years in a heartbeat

branmer

deadgenerations

Organisers of events at the Divine Playhouse say they have cancelled coming events following the furore, and have accused Meta of shutting d

Now this is a fascinating story (nonpaywall link) about a brand new gay club in an old (deconsecrated) church doing Catholic themed sexy parties, and consequentially being shut down by organised Christian opposition almost immediately.

deadgenerations

I genuinely admire this lack of knowledge about Christianity. to live in an information space where I don't absorb understandings of Christianity via osmosis...

comparativelysuperlative

Nah, they've got a point sort of. The Catholic Christians, apparently, decided this building is no longer sacred. And literally held a ceremony about it!

(I'm too Protestant for any of this, but what "too Protestant" means in this case is that there's no such thing as a Holy Building at all. You have people meeting to do church stuff and it's a church; you don't and it ain't. "Where two or more gather in my name, I am there, and remain there afterward precisely as long as the object they gathered in does," said Jesus never.)

So it's a valid question-- exactly which Christians are complaining, and why do they think the Catholic consecration was spiritually important but the deconsecration wasn't?

the-grey-tribe

Obviously that means that the harm isn't spiritual, but purely symbolic!

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t4timekeeper

i’m pursuing a career as a pastry chef and i enjoy making sweets for the people i love. if one more person starts waxing hysterical about the dangers of sugar and fat and calories in response to me making something nice for them i’m gonna become a real life batman villain.

t4timekeeper

like they almost always DO want the sweet in question, so it’s not a matter of disliking the gift. but they feel the need to perform this whole display of guilt and shame about it. and it’s super awkward and uncomfortable.

t4timekeeper

it’s not black tar heroin. it’s a cookie. i made it with love. it will not kill you. if you don’t want it that’s perfectly okay. but at least have the same grace and manners you would if you were rejecting any other gift, alright?

myfootyrthroat

This drove me nuts as a pastry chef. I would do catering orders and it would be like "We just want a lot of fresh fruits and bright, colorful berries, you know? Lots of fresh flavors and antioxidants! And I guess a few cookies or tarts for the people with less self-control..."

and without fail, the trays would come back with the actual desserts picked clean and the fruit 90% untouched.

Please, do not make me participate in this charade with you. We both know you just want chocolate. Just let me give you the chocolate. Don't make me cut up and garnish all this fruit for nothing.

the-grey-tribe

I used to love eating the fruit at buffets, but people would give me dirty looks for eating the garnish...

galileosballs

I'm naturally inclined to be skeptical of the rah-rah-America of the 'European mind blown by trying tex-mex for the first time' posting, and it's certainly true that the algorithmic success of such posts is 98% Americans desperate for validation and that any reasonably sensible European twitter or tiktok user would know that, but also I did spend 6 months in Austria and when I left I was so desperate for a real burrito that I ate nothing but for a week post-return and made myself very ill

galileosballs

Like, this posting is definitely engagement bait. It's obviously engagement bait. These German tourists know full fucking well that nothing makes the 300,000,000 Americans of the internet go repost-mad like a European telling them they have a Cool Culture Thing, and there's big money in having 300,000,000 Americans share your tweet. That's literally Engagement Farming 101.

But also Mexican food is actually that good.

the-grey-tribe

There is probably more terrible tex-mex food in the USA than in Europe, and there are many Americans who have never had "real" burrito or prefer the "Americanised" version to the "real" version. Also, you can just buy a cookbook and cook your own Mexican food, unless you need fresh tomatillos. Then the best you can do is grow your own on your balcony, and that's probably not in the cards over 6 months.

For many X, it's funny how many times people give me advice about something or refuse to give advice about X based on a USA perspective. They write that you should only attempt it if you're a licensed X. It's funny how often I see web sites that don't want to sell me stuff unless I am a licensed X. It's funny how often people from REDACTED fall into the same trap and assume there is a licensing body that works like in the USA. And by USA, I mean California.

There isn't. All I need is insurance and a business license. Sure, I may have to follow all kinds of laws, rules, and regulations, but there is no licensing body. You can just do stuff.

In many countries, you can open a piercing studio without a license, except a "business license", which is basically a registration.

In some countries, there is not even such thing as a press ID, and if somebody asks for a press ID, you hand them an employee badge that identifies you as an employee of your newspaper. There is no law against operating your own "newspaper" and printing badges.

I mean, nobody is stopping me from buying a forklift here in REDACTED. Now operating a forklift...

The twitter football guy who went to the USA for the world cup and got excited about a gas station is fascinating. I mean, he's a bot or a fake, of some sort. Even if he's a real guy, he's a phony. I mean, what kind of German football fan has a Cristiano Ronaldo profile pic?

But more than the guy himself, I am fascinated by the Americans who interact with his content, who react to it and spread screenshots to tumblr. They don't want to learn about other countries. They may follow American influencers who travel abroad, but they don't really follow people from other countries when these people talk about their own countries.

The maximum of cultural exchange that a certain type of American can tolerate is a traveller from another country tweeting in America, about America.

And these people often steadfastly don't watch the football. Not only that they don't watch the games, but they will proclaim, as if to ward against accusations of un-American behaviour, that they know nothing about football.

quasi-normalcy

I actually think that science fiction has done everyone a disservice by presenting escaping to another planet as a remotely feasible near-term solution to problems on Earth.

quasi-normalcy

Like, I’m sorry, but if terraforming Mars is an option then why can’t we just terraform the Earth?

quasi-normalcy

(I mean, this last bit isn’t actually a great argument, because a lot of techniques proposed for terraforming involve such things as smashing asteroids into planets, blocking out their view of the sun for decades at a time, or seeding the entire planet’s surface with novel extremophile bacteria, which would be unthinkable on Earth; but the point still stands! It would be vastly easier to restore Earth to a healthy climate than to make Mars even as habitable as the peak of Mount Everest)

quasi-normalcy

As Mars is fuck-off far away, it’s really expensive to send even a robot the size of a compact car there, half of all uncrewed missions there fail, and we don’t even know how to land a crewed one yet.

notalittleatall

They’re talking about a city on Mars. We don’t even have a city on Antartica! And Antartica is 10000x more hospitable, because it at least has breathable air and readily available water. And Antartica can have an actual supply chain feeding the necessary stuff to it rather than needing to plan rockets. But no one ever suggests colonising Antartica to solve overpopulation, because its so obviously inhospitable and it would cost so much to set up a city there. Still so much better than Mars.

Or cities floating on the ocean! Or cities in the sahara desert! Or cities in orbit! These are all terrible, terrible ideas, but each one is far more feasible and practical than a colony on Mars is.

samiholloway

Did you see anything about how china returned Przwalskis horses to it’s steppe and effectively halted desertification bc keystone species can do stuff like that? Technically terra forming, perfectly doable to engineer/ restore all sorts of earth ecosystems, and SO MUCH MORE FEASIBLE than anything that can be done on Mars.

the-grey-tribe

Yeah just do the math on fuel and life support. Even getting one horse to Mars is a logistics nightmare!

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captainjonnitkessler

It's wild how many people seem to think that winning a revolution would somehow be easier than winning an election.

This is what I'm saying!! People keep being like "we can't possibly solve things through voting! That would involve massive organizing, getting everyone on the same page, making compromises and settling for less than perfection, and it would be subject to the influence of mega-wealthy donors and an opposition-controlled media environment! We just have to have a revolution so we don't have to deal with any of those things!"

And it's like. I'd be less annoyed about what are obviously people who are hurt and frustrated lashing out if they didn't act like I was a fucking fascist for saying "I don't think massive amounts of death and violence will help this situation, actually"

maggiedeshiboux

ngl it's been incredibly wild to me watching the Martian blow up and then Project Hail Mary blow up even bigger when I previously knew Andy Weir from a webcomic where he dates Satan, who had previously secretly been Frances Folsom

michaelblume

Oh if you remember C&A and didn't know it was the same guy, it gets better

The whole science team was there as well. The same set of usual suspects we had at our weekly status meetings. Stratt, me, Dimitri, Lokken, and our latest science addition, Dr. Lamai. Oh, and no science team would be complete without a gambling-addicted swindler, so Bob Redell was there too.

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