which is to say . negligible amounts . âitâs so refreshing that shane is the manly man stinky loser jock bro-ey bro dude man and ilya is the cunty slay queen slut waist gagging for you faggot yaaaas divaâ so itâs the binary but the other way around . very revolutionary and awesome
not to come at you at all just using this to clarify: my point is that theyâre equal no matter who is more âfeminineâ or âmasculineâ and the reactionary positing of ilya as being the Actually feminine one is bad not because you canât read any sort of femininity into either of their characters (which so many people seem to do w claims that shane is âoverlyâ feminised in the book through rrâs alleged selfinsert approach/the prose/the narrative framing whatever other thing people want to blame their distaste for his character on) but because this weird adherence to the binary and gender essentialism is widening the portal and making everyoneâs blood turn to acid . all that being said im not doing this for feminism or gay rights im literally just a hateful bitch with faggy sensibilities whoâs mad that people are attributing Cunty Serves to an adidas wearing 20something who has a tj maxx abstract triptych in his house . black bedsheets with white walls . he will NEVER be glamour
*also I like that shane is the more âfeminineâ one . well itâs not that simple but Iâve said all this a million times before . my point is im not Unbiased . i just think it works within the romance genre stock tropes and commentary on opposites and binaries and difference that are an intentional part of the narrative so To Me: their equalness doesnât come from defending/protecting their masculinity . down with Big Masc4masc controlling the yaoi stock market . i love to feminize fetishize fujoshi out . sorry im probably a bad person
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"Mixed Asian representation in American popular culture parallels how mixed Asians are often perceived by the publicâas fair-skinned, ambiguous, and exotic, but whose identities are constructed through their positionality to others. In shows that are white-led, they remain not quite white, their ambiguous faces the butts of the punchline (at times self-referentially), their backgrounds barely mentioned. They serve the story as entrancing secondary characters with no evidence of their Asianness (or whiteness, for that matter), but whose likenesses cause the audience to discern whether theyâre mixed Asian on and offscreen."
"In HBO/Craveâs queer hockey romance series adaptation, Shane Hollander (Korean-Dutch Hudson Williams) Japanese-Canadian background, never specified as Japanese, is mentioned three times. First, Shaneâs manager congratulates his team on breaking barriers by signing him. Next, his mother (Taiwanese-Filipino/white Christina Chang) reminds Shane of the community he represents. Finally, Shane mentions to his white date he was one of two Asian boys who played hockey. Despite this. Heated Rivalry includes no gestural or cultural signs of Shaneâs Asianness throughout the season. Even when Shane and his love interest Ilya Rosanov (Connor Storrie) eat dinner with Shaneâs parents, spaghetti is whatâs on the menu.
The lack of development in Shaneâs identity is more pronounced by the pervasiveness of Ilyaâs Russian background, which includes relationships with other Russians, language, an accent, and distinct customs. Ilyaâs identity informs how he moves through the world, a navigation threaded throughout the season, that Shane simply isnât allowed to experience."
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I'm so glad this gets talked about how Russianness is so overwhelmingly part of the story vs Shane's mixed race is nothing more than the way he looks and there is no cultural underpinning whatsoever. I know fandom has complained about it since the dawn of time, but it's nice to see it written about. The examples the article cites are almost all things Jacob added to the script because of how in the book, Shane is fully reduced to his "exotic" face and hairless body.
I think it would have been so fun and enriching for both Shane and Rose to have a little more time with Shane's situationship before the Hollanov Soft Launch. Neither of them ever went to college. They barely went to high school. They've been locked in on their respective high-intensity low-privacy careers since they were fifteen. Shane has been fucking with a fuckboi for seven years without ANYONE to talk to about it. Rose is just as starved for genuine human connection as Shane is.
They should have been given time to sit on Shane's couch while Rose plays Twenty Questions trying to get to the bottom of who Shane is fucking.
Shane should have told Rose about the Tampa hotel room and Rose should have hit him with a pillow and said, "NO. The fuck boy does NOT have a heart of gold, Shane Hollander."
Shane should have had the opportunity to text Rose, "I'm making a bad choice," and then two hours later, "Fuck I am DONE I am NEVER doing this again" because Ilya got up to shower too quickly and Shane hurt his own feelings about it.
There should be a series of texts in Rose and Shane's history that just say, "Relapsed," all of them sent at three in the morning accompanied by a selfie of Shane in Ilya's fuckass navy blue sheets. Rose's habitual response is Not a relapse if you never stopped đ
They should have met up after Shane was up all night getting just absolutely railed into the mattress and Rose should have reached across the table to lift up Shane's hangover sunglasses and said, "That dick better be unbelievable," and Shane should have miserably said, "It is."
Shane should have gone incommunicado for four days after telling Rose that he was going to spend a long weekend in Boston and finally when Rose texts him a screen shot of an LAX -> BOS flight list and the words, "Proof of life or else." Shane just responds with a picture of Ilya's back turned and his hair a mess as he rummages in a cabinet for coffee beans. Rose responds, Whore. And then, two minutes later, Tell the fuck boy I said hi.
when people meet ilya and tell him âoh my god im your husbands biggest fanâ he responds âwell you didnât marry him⌠so not his biggest fanâ
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in a reasonable canon, shane would simply have THEE most dependent and intimate relationship with the montreal team nutritionist. like, he has her on speed dial. they text multiple times per day. she spends 60% of her work hours adjusting meal plans for his texture issues and aversions. nobody else really sees how intense their connection is.
when he was crashing out about trading to ottawa, he said, "You know, it's just gonna be really hard to leave melissa," and hayden was sitting right there like. "melissa?? it's gonna be hard to leave MELISSA??"
but i think we can probably convince melissa to move to ottawa with him, don't worry.
mind you, ilya spent an entire book thinking about hurling himself off the roof of the canadian tire centre in large part because his new shitty team was impinging on his sporting-competition-with-shane kink. what makes you think this man harbors secret aspirations to wearing bedazzled letterman jackets with a baby in each arm
Au where taste by Sabrina carpenter is out when Shane and Rose break up and Shane tells Rose about his situationship and how they're back together and maybe are serious. And because Shane is asshole4asshole in all his relationships Rose posts an Instagram reel to Taste wearing Shane's jersey.
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top five hugest most blow up fights shane and ilya have while married? pleaseeeeeeeeeee
this is such a beautiful question thank you so much for coming to me with this đ I think most of their fights are like Ilya needling and Shane going, "Do you ever shut the fuck up?" and then they don't talk for 10 minutes to 2 hours and come back and give half-hearted apologies that are mostly more because they are embarrassed than because they're actually sorry, but here are my top five actual blow up fights not in any actual order:
Ilya is telling Shane about how he used to skip school on his mama's bad days where she wouldn't be able to get out of bed and make her tea and Shane makes a face and says, "You shouldn't have had to take care of her. You were just a kid."
When Shane finds out Ilya let him win at rummy one time (because he didn't want to play the stupid card game, Hollander) and it deteriorates into yelling about if he let him win here, where the fuck else did he let him win?
Reoccurring blow up fights about Ilya going on medication that usually something like "I don't want to rely on pills for the rest of my life, Shane." "Well its that or I fucking uninstall the locks on the bathroom, Ilya!". These get especially worse after Svetlana visits and lets slip the one time Ilya did swallow a bunch of pills and she had to break down the bathroom door and stick her fingers down his throat when they were 15.
They are already having a fight about something (Shane scheduling a sponsorship meeting on a day off, Ilya telling the Centaurs that he can't go out because Shane won't let him, if Shane is being too hard on Haas, etc.) and Ilya goes, "Why don't you just get on your knees, Hollander?" and Shane is immediately madder than he's ever been in his entire life.
Ilya accidentally sends a money transfer to Alexei (for his niece) from their joint account and when Shane asks about it and Ilya's like, "Oh, sorry that was supposed to be from my account." and Shane's like, "I just don't understand how you can send him money. He's just going to fucking snort it."
MORE heated rivalry fics that are conceptually clever or unsettling or thorough. or all of the above
not all of them are aus . many are under 15k hits
put my hand on the stove (and the cross) - unseemlyndisturbed
(beautiful eerie prose, the religiosity holds substance and is hypnotic. Load bearing fanfiction)
âAnd there.
Through a break in the trees, there is a house. Wooden, old, the pale white paint of it greyed with age and dampness.
"Iâ" His voice comes out level, at least.
The man has tilted his head. "What? You want to sleep in your car?" He pulls his chin toward the dark interior of the house, a small gesture. "No. Come in. Is no trouble."
God hasnât abandoned him yet, ha.
Shane Hollander's car breaks down in the middle of nowhere. The man who answers the door is charming, warm, and just his type. Ilya Rozanov is a very religious man. He has a lot to say about repentance.â
HOLLANDER VS ROZANOV I - gone_girl
(i know nothing about boxing, but this conveys the world so clearly. outsider pov in chapter 1. knowledgeable clever cool character study)
âAfter nearly a decade separated by weight class, Shane Hollander has given up his cruiserweight title to challenge undefeated heavyweight champion of the world Ilya Rozanov. The following is a presentation of HBO Boxing.â
A Side Door Into the Dark - magnetica
(climatology physics scientists in antarctica. includes citations at the end. in a short amount of words the sense of setting is sooo strong. very endearing and cold)
âAmundsen-Scott Station, Antarctica
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In grad school the only flirting he had mastered was the strategic deployment of phrases like âoh, really?â and âis that so?â It was brought to his attention by one of his more regular hookups in the kitchen of his apartment while they were cooking dinner, and he had said whenever Shane wanted to fuck he started talking like a coastal elite college girl whoâd never had to ask for it outright. Now, in this strange point of contact with Ilya where it was obvious something vaguely carnal had passed between them, he thought about emulating his particular brand of assured charm. Whatever ideas heâd concocted devolved rather quickly into his own unintentional directness, and he said, âDoes it scare you?â
âDoes climatology scare you?â Ilyaâs face was measured and calm, his foot still pressed against the curved joint above Shaneâs heel.
âYeah,â the word came out like a laugh, âit does, actually. A lot.ââ
decadent stress chamber - garagepaperback
(every word is intentional. frenetic. load bearing wall of a fic! buzzy. anything by garagepaperback is immaculate)
âRush week confirms a lot of things. Ambitions, fears. Where do I fit? What if I donât fit anywhere? Nervous freshman bitten-lip shit. Being an active, a senior, means having answers. Shane has no further questions.
â
Or, Shaneâs in a frat. Ilya rushes.â
i looked over it and i ached - IsvsWorld
(very very good character study and exploration of shaneâs japanese canadian experience. doesnât shy away from the harder realisms.)
ââI donât really think about stuff like that,â Shane replies in interviews, his lips wooden at the words.
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Shane and being haafu, 2nd gen, and Asian.â
helpless, tender, open - makomoris
(sexy and sickly and loving..)
âShane gets an annual cold, Ilya notices, when they start to officially date. It happens when they're both on the road, and he calls Shane from his shitty hotel and hears him sniffling, nose all blocked while he grumbles about having to sit out a game. Ilya lets him whine, says I know, I know, sweetie, it doesn't feel too good, I am sure. He's imagining Shane a little helpless in bed, unable to move, struck down with fever. It stirs something inside him, seeing Shane, usually so whip strong, fastest skater he's seen, laid away to waste by the simple common cold.
or Shane gets sick, and Ilya still wants.â
HOLLANDER & ROZANOV ARE DEAD - eurydicees
(buzzy and heartfelt and nosy)
It is December, and Scott has been out for long enough to pretend to be used to it, and things are not perfect but theyâre fucking good, and Ilya Rozanov is at his apartment for dinnerâhas been for over an hourâand heâs still waiting so stupidly hopefully to introduce a boyfriend who very, very clearly isnât coming.
(Or: studies on coming out, learning patience, one-sided conversations, and other absurdist waiting games.)
got milk? i mean, got yoghurt? - unseemlyndisturbed
(fascinating mixed media storytellingâŚchapter 2 ending we still think about you. read the tags but also itâs sick (like crazy?) but earnest and emotional. sexy and comedic too! :P Also really well researched and realistic which enhances the reading experience so much)
âThere was a small recoil, nothing Shane would consciously register as a recoil, just a slight drawing-back of his head and a micro-expression crossing the bridge of his nose.
His brows pulled together for one second, and he pulled the carton away from his face, examining the opening.
Ilya Rozanov has seven cameras. Ilya Rozanov has a blog.
His gay roommate doesn't know about any of thisâ
hockeybot - hiljainen
(gratifying. mixed media)
âHere is what everyone thinks of you. Itâs exactly what you feared. It might actually be worse.â
Thirsty Little Flower - anonymous
(like ok i guess weâre getting into the pervert section of the fic rec list. i really like the shane characterization and the representation of finding out youâre a freak on the family computer and running from it forever. very charming seriously.)
tag i love: âthink of this like an erotic expansion pack. the base game has plenty of smut already.â
âFuck, something was really wrong with him. It was one thing to jerk off in the shower thinking about a hot guy. So maybe it was kinda gay, whatever. It happens. It's really another thing to jerk off thinking about your rival. Who beat you in *two* competitions today. A guy who, in all likelihood, didn't even mean to brush your fingers like that. That's kinda pervy, right? But plenty of other guys are also kinda pervy.
It's really definitely not normal to jerk off thinking about a guy telling you to stay hydrated.
Fuck. Shane Hollander is a freak.â
welcome to the family - pressuretoparty
(so satisfying and makes me flinch. whole house madâ¤ď¸. really honest ottawa hollanov depiction.)
â"We are actually so fucking washed," Shane bitches. "I'm never getting better and you are stuck on a losing team that sucks. Everyone is going to forget about us."
"Don't make me trip you," Ilya says, calmly. "Let's do another lap."
"No," Shane barks. Ilya raises his eyebrows.
Shane refuses to accept this. This perpetual cycle of suck. When he invited Ilya to his cottage almost four years ago now, he didn't expect their relationship to turn into their fucking burial ground.
Shane finds himself grounded in Ottawa for the foreseeable future. With his newfound free time, he hangs out with his family, eats Costco Rotisserie chicken, and whips Ilya Rozanov back into a champion.â
okay what are everyone's hope and dreams for the s2 press tour i'll go first: hudson on ziwe, connor on very important people with vic michaelis, and both of them on a throuple chicken shop date
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There's a book that we had in our house growing up that I was obsessed with as a kid. It was just called "PAKISTAN: PAINTINGS BY LIN YONG AND SU HUA" and it was an art book of 100+ paintings/sketches by two Chinese artists who travelled thru Pakistan in 1978 and 1981, a sort of travelogue of their trip, and to little-kid me, it was some of the most beautiful things I'd ever seen. I have no idea why we had that book, but I would stare at it for hours, and it made me wish I could draw/paint/do whatever it was that these artists had managed to do.
Anyway, we've moved house a bunch of times and I lost track of the book and haven't seen it for probably two decades now. But I think about it now and again, and had struggled to find it over the years, but I finally, finally got my hands on a copy of my own and i want to cry haha
I was afraid that maybe the art isn't as good as I remembered, being just a kid and all, but I cracked it open and nope, it hits me just the way it used to. Maybe even more now. It's so fucking pretty. Have some random pages: