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Their Relationship will always interest me. They're probably my favourite brother duo.

Elijah was born at the most unfortunate time for the family. Just after they lost Freya and that absolutely affected their relationship from the start. Elijah had an absent father who was grieving his sister, a mother who was grieving, guilty and having an affair. So he probably clinged to Finn, closest in age and likely the Family he saw most. But for Finn, I think it would be a horrible moment as a Child grieving and being expected to move on but also suddenly having a new sibling, one Freya had wanted SO Much. But it wasn't his sister, and maybe he didn't live up to the stories that Freya and esther weaved about how it'd be to have a new little brother. So it feels like a bad deal, he lost his sister to get a bad replacement. But I think he loved him, because Freya would have loved him. But he couldn't meald the two feelings. So by the time he was old enough to figure it out, Elijah was fawning over Baby Klaus. So was Mikael and Esther. Which just added jealousy to the list of issues

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Respect but Annoyance will absolutely be there base no matter what.

Elijah loving and consistently wanting his brothers attention, but also his care and need to protect the younger siblings came before Anything, while Finn was his Mothers Golden Boy. so clashes are Bound to happen. But Finn was still his Big Brother.

This SCENE! (ignore the bad wigs on the eldest)

The small moment, of Elijah not Annoyed, not pulling away as Finn Nopes his decision and just turns to him waiting for him to talk. They're on an even set level, even if at every other moment in those flash back, Elijah Is In Charge. So obvious at that point It was family power by age. But Elijahs Respect is still There for Finn here!

How was Hell?

This man was So Done, and the most bratty/bitchy we Ever see him. Even to his enemies. This is the Most brother fighting/arguing issue we see from Elijah. But his RESPECT IS STILL THERE!! He's pissed but he HEARS HIM OUT!!

Elena/Mikaelson ships are weird by default but sure-

Esther/Elena

Frankly more witches should've been weird about the dopplegangers (a large part of why there should've been more doppleganger lines) but imagine sentencing an entire bloodline to death to make your children immortal and then using that same blood to try to kill them again and again. I think Esther should've kidnapped Elena when she tried to kill her kids a second time and kept her starved and chained up and needy and used her as leverage while knowing Elena would never escape.

Mikael/Elena

I don't think Mikael ever planned to kill the doppleganger girl I think he wanted to take her away and prepare her to kill Klaus. And I think he would've been Weird about it

Freya/Elena

I think Freya would mostly be weird about her because the rest of the family is weird about her and she's just trying to fit in. But also having magic blood to use in your spells is incredibly sexy. I think Elena would've fallen for her the same way Keelin did.

Finn/Elena

Idk maybe Esther would've had better luck getting Elena on the Family Mass Murder train if she'd taken advantage of her hot son to seduce her. He probably would've felt bad about cheating on Sage but I think they'd all be okay in the end.

Elijah/Elena

He's collecting those girls like Pokemon. He's probably encouraging her to seek "human connection" so she can get pregnant and continue the bloodline so he can have another one in a few centuries.

Klaus/Elena

AU where the ritual created a soulbond between them and it was supposed to make Klaus depressed forever because his Mate is dead but Elena lives and Klaus kills his hybrids because he gets jealous about them having Elena's blood in them forever.

Kol/Elena

Kol makes a bet with Rebekah that he can seduce the doppleganger faster than Elijah and it actually works and he's pretty sure the only reason Klaus hasn't daggered him for stealing his doppleganer's attention is because Elena threatened to throw herself of Wickery Bridge if he did that.

Rebekah/Elena

He would not be christian, he’s from a 800s/900s nordic community. They didn’t even really have jesus yet and he was only conscious for 100 years. Knock it off with that shit. He’s from a cultural that still did animal sacrifice and fertility rituals, he’s not gonna give a shit about purity and piety like that. No nunnery talk.

He’s not a prude. For part one of this see above, he’s not fucking christian he doesn’t have christian hang ups. For part two of this HE LOVES SAGE!!!! WE GOT A WHOLE FLASHBACK ABOUT HOW WILD SHE IS!!!!! Do you really think he would be with her, TURN HER, if he was a celibate prudish loser who clutches his pearls about sex stuff????? Insane.

He’s not fucking boring, his siblings just don’t like being told they’re wrong. You cannot take the opinions of people like klaus and elijah, two NOTORIOUSLY deluded nitwits, as gospel. They say similar incorrect things about kol and rebekah— making kol out to be a feckless animal (he’s not, he’s a ~20 grappling with immense loss who’d struggle to control himself even as a human given that he’s BARELY GROWN) and rebekah as a desperate fool blinded by shallow affections (untrue she just desperately needs to know someone loves and cares for her, she’s easily the most loving, loyal and brave of all of them she was going to KILL MIKAEL to protect klaus AS A HUMAN!!!!). Finn, like kol and rebekah, tends to call out elijah and niklaus on their bullshit— him and finn more than rebekah and note who gets daggered the most. Niklaus CANNOT take criticism, he sees it as abandonment/rejection, and elijah is his enabler so he never stops him. He’s also DEEPLY hypocritical (see— noble stag vs red door) and tries to position himself as decent, meanwhile finn IS moral and they all know it, so when he calls elijah out on his facade it Does Not Go Well. Stop taking these delusional punks at face value.

Finn is not boring part 2: the reckoning. This is explicitly about his personality — finn in TO is associated to the boar which when you get into wild boar connotations and shit that he’s hot-blooded, no bullshit, vicious and hardcore as fuck. Wild boar are some of the most dangerous things to hunt and if they gore you it’s good night dolly. Boars are associated with an insanely strong will to live and indulging in carnal pleasures as well as things like masculinity and virility/vitality. Boar are dangerous and powerful, even if now people think “pig=lesser”. Ancient celts saw them as s symbol of spiritual authority and the warrior spirit, as well as associations with healing and hospitality. Also natural disasters. Basically this is all to say that when finn picks a stance/road he makes the terminator look weak willed. He’s not boring at all, he just doesn’t get the same level of exploration and his VERY righteous anger is mocked.

Morality and ethics aren’t boring the writers and fandom just don’t know SHIT about philosophy or ethics and it SHOWS. I know we shouldn’t expect anything from the ppl who try to sell damon as an okayish guy after what he did to caroline alone but i expect more from the fandom. Murder IS bad, yes vampires ARE sick as fuck but KILLING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FOR FOOD AND FUN IS BAD!!!! Finn is not wrong about this!!!!! Being upset you were trapped in the torture nexus for 900 years by your supervillain siblings is THE NORMAL REACTION! Finn’s disgust for who and what they all are is correct and it brings up uneasy issues at the very center of the franchise premise and in uni, the core of his family. He questions their logic, their reasoning, their self justifications at every possible turn, he is similar to stefan in that he does not see what he is as an excuse to behave unethically which throws a REALLY bad light on all his sibs who LOVE to massacre folks.

Just because his principals don’t align with your fave’s doesn’t mean he’s Literally Satan. His stance that vampires are a curse on the earth that needs to go is honestly a very valid one, even CAROLINE who strives to be a non-dangerous vampire has killed MULTIPLE people. They are quite literally a manmade parasitic species, we may not agree with him but like… he has a point lol. This doesn’t make him evil, this is a reasonable stance to take, it’s the whole vamp genocide thing that gets tricky but there ARE schools of philosophy and ethics that would support it. That’s the fun of philosophy!!! It’s a rat’s nest of opinions!!!! Too bad we never actually explore that!!!!!

Finn doesn’t want to die, he wants an end to his suffering. First off note how the SECOND he’s reunited with sage, someone he loved and he knows loves him (unlike his sobs) he WILLINGLY gives klaus some of his blood. He was made into something he considers an abomination, cut from his magic, forced to live forever as a parasite only to be trapped conscious but paralyzed in a box for 900 years. This man is just plain ole suffering and seeking something to heal that pain. Death would in theory do it but note how any time he’s given an opportunity to have a real life he goes for it immediately.

Finn is not a sycophant, he’s trauma bonded to his evil manipulative mother. First off he and esther were the ONLY PEOPLE to know that freya wasn’t dead, he SAW his sister being stolen away and the ONLY person he could grieve with was esther. The loss of freya still VISIBLY EFFECTS HIM into adulthood. Elijah wasn’t even born yet, none of them could ever understand this pain. And he can’t speak about how it all happened. He’s put in a position by esther that intrinsically separates him from his siblings as her secret keeper and confidant. She clearly uses him to get the emotional comfort/validation mikael does not give and because of the gap between him and his younger siblings and because he IS the eldest son, he relies on her too. He sticks with esther because he believes she’s as moral as him, as willing to sacrifice and suffer for her beliefs as he is— he is not aware of the depths of her scumminess and when he DOES see them he drops her like a sack of shit. His morals, his integrity are more important to him than her love. End of story.

FINN IS THE FUCKING OLDEST SON!!!! Especially when they were growing up this was Important, he was mikael’s heir there were Expectations on him. He had ACTUAL RESPONSIBILITIES. When they all turn he’s TWENTY FUCKING EIGHT. This man had a viking era job and mortgage already. He’s a buzzkill to his siblings because he IS the fuck in charge of you fucks!! When they act out it’ll him or esther who’ll get blamed for it. Finn would have been set to inherit the majority of mikael’s lands and wealth and be expected to care for his mother, his brothers, see rebekah was acceptably married etc if mikael kicked it. Finn and elijah’s roles in the family are RADICALLY different. For all of elijah’s big brother shit he only got to be so close and free with his younger siblings because finn was the eldest. It’s FINN who’s expected to take on the bulk of the responsibilities, not elijah. Finn was parentified which only further drove a wedge between him and the younger siblings. He was turned into the villain because he was moral and responsible and “favored” as the eldest whomst mikael and esther put all their expectations on. I bet a LOT of oldest siblings from complicated families can relate to this.

BEING MORAL DOES NOT MAKE YOU A VIRGIN, A PRUDE OR AGAINST FUN. IT JUST MEANS YOU DON’T COMPEL SORORITY GIRLS TO BE YOUR DANCING BLOOD BAGS LIKE DAMON!!!! Again i think people FUNDAMENTALLY DO NOT COMPREHEND that Morality Is Not Christian Fucking Values. Finn is literally the only one of them who had a partner at time of turning, nik and elijah weren’t officially with tatia just mooning over her. Finn was sneaking out to bang sage in the woods. Having a strong ethical/moral code that you are willing to kill and die for doesn’t mean you can’t have fucking fun. Like i say this in the context of sex earlier bc i always see ppl write him like he’ll faint if he sees an ankle but this just… like come the fuck on. Are we gonna say that like, prison abolitionists fundamentally cannot enjoy life because they have a strongly held belief? This is literally the ONLY DUDE IN ALL THE MIKAELSONS I WOULD PARTY WITH BECAUSE I KNOW I WOULD BE SAFE LOL. Just because we never get a chance to see him have fun doesn’t mean he’s incapable. For the love of god pLEASE LET HIM HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR!!! Let him have HOBBIES!!!!! He’s NOT A CARDBOARD CUTOUT!!!!

I know he spends 900 odd years in a box, but we can see that Elijah is taking on that role even before they’re turned - his sense of duty to Klaus over Tatia indicates that’s always there.

I’m guessing there’s a split in the family dynamic where the “true” Vikings (the ones that had come over from the old world) were segregated from the new world siblings. We saw how much closer Freya was to Mikael, and I suspect Finn would fall into the same camp.

Also because of all of them, only Finn remembers Freya and feels her loss, which likely aligns him with Mikael more than the others who just had a vague ghost of an older sibling. I know it’s really down to the writers not having thought of Freya yet, but if we take it at face value, we could believe that the mysterious dead older sibling was so far removed from the new cohort that not even their name was immediately to hand.

That divide also goes a way to explaining why Klaus felt he could get away with not only daggering Finn but keeping him there for so long, and why none of the others ever seem to challenge him on it - Finn is so segregated from the group that he might as well not be there anyway, a box makes no difference.

And, coming back to Klaus’ “reasons” for doing it - Finn is boring.

It’s a glib statement that could just be a typical posturing Klaus throwaway line (because he’s not really one for sharing his true feelings), but it’s also very possibly close to the truth - having lived and survived in an environment so harsh that it prompted their family to flee across the ocean (whilst pregnant, no less), and being that bit older anyway, Finn’s probably not got the same joie de vivre that the others have. Sort of the difference between those who lived through the Great War versus those that rolled up their hems and danced until they dropped in the Interwar years.

In The Vampire Diaries, Katherine is portrayed and often seen as manipulative and selfish. If you look under the surface, there is trauma that directs her actions.

Katherine was born Katerina Petrova, cast out by her family, then forced to watch her entire bloodline be slaughtered by Klaus. From that moment on, her life becomes one long rule: stay alive no matter what. And when survival is the only goal, morality stops being the priority.

You see this immediately when she returns in Season 2. She doesn’t just show up she plans. Every move is calculated. She compels, manipulates, and positions people exactly where she needs them to be. When she turns Caroline into a vampire (2x01), it’s not out of spite it’s leverage. When she plays Damon and Stefan against each other, it’s not chaos it’s control. Katherine doesn’t leave things to chance because chance gets you killed.

That’s the core of her psychology: chronic fight-or-flight mode. She doesn’t react like someone living a normal life—she reacts like someone who has been hunted for centuries.

And that’s where the manipulation comes in.

Katherine lies. She seduces. She uses people. But this isn’t impulsive cruelty it’s instrumental manipulation. She reads people fast and exploits what they want. With Damon, she uses love. With Stefan, she uses history. With everyone else, she uses fear or desire. In 2x07 (“Masquerade”), she walks into a room full of people who hate her and still manages to stay ten steps ahead. That’s not luck. That’s survival intelligence.

People love to call her a narcissist, but it’s more accurate to say she shows narcissistic traits as a defense. Yes, she’s self-focused. Yes, she believes she deserves to live. But underneath that confidence is someone who learned very early that no one was coming to save her. Of course, she chooses herself she had to.

Her relationships show this even more clearly.

Katherine has what psychology would call an avoidant attachment style. She doesn’t do vulnerability. She doesn’t let people get too close unless she can control the outcome. Even when real emotion slips through—like her connection to Stefan it’s buried under manipulation. In 2x04 (“Memory Lane”), when we see their past, it’s obvious she felt something real. But in the present, she twists that same relationship into a tool. Not because she doesn’t feel but because feeling is dangerous.

That’s the contradiction that defines her.

Katherine is emotionally restrained to the point of detachment. She rarely shows fear, rarely breaks, rarely lets anyone see what’s underneath. This is classic emotional suppression specifically repression and detachment. She doesn’t process pain. She locks it away and keeps moving.

But the cracks are there if you look.

In 2x08 (“Rose”), when she talks about Klaus, there’s genuine fear. Not performance—fear. For a moment, the mask drops, and you see exactly what’s been driving her for centuries. And it reframes everything: the running, the lying, the refusal to sacrifice herself. She isn’t just selfish she’s terrified of going back to being powerless.

Even her identity reflects this.

Katherine is constantly reinventing herself names, places, and roles. That level of adaptability points to a fluid identity, one built around survival instead of stability. She isn’t one fixed person because she’s never been allowed to be. She becomes what she needs to be when she needs to be it.

And that brings everything together

Outwardly, Katherine is confident, seductive, and completely in control.

Inwardly, she is shaped by fear, loss, and the belief that vulnerability equals death.

That’s why she chooses herself. Every time.

Katherine Pierce exhibits trauma-driven survival behavior, avoidant attachment patterns, emotional suppression, and manipulative strategies as adaptive defenses developed over centuries of threat and loss.

With the new Harry Potter series she will be making a reported $20 million per-season renewal + other performance dependent royalties. She has been open across multiple interviews regarding her intentions to use said funds to push forth even more trans targeted legislation in the years to come.

This isn’t a “she gets paid no matter what” situation. The more eyeballs on this show the more money she has to actively harm vulnerable communities. By engaging with it you are directly supporting this and otherwise making a conscious choice to consume HP over doing the literal very least possible to not destroy the lives of trans people across the world.

If my stating the objective facts above upsets you then feel free to unfriend and move along. Your nostalgia-goggles feelings for a tired, problematic franchise mean nothing to me compared to the welfare of my trans friends and loved ones."

If you care more about badly written children's books and imaginary wizards more than you do about real people in the real world do it far the fuck away from me.

Don't try to be in my life.

Jason, coughing: Did ya know I died of smoke inhalation

Dick nearly choking on the smoke

Dick: Jas-

Jason: Y’know Sheila was standin’ there smoking while Joker beat me

Dick slowly putting out the cigarette

Jason: I can never look at cigarettes the same

Dick looking at his pack of cigarettes, horrified

Dick: Shit little wing.. I’m sorry-