#grayrose

Do I need to spell it out in bold text?

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU SHIP, IT'S THE UNDERLYING APHOBIA THAT BOTHERS ME

Is that clear enough?

Is this what it takes to not be accused of policing queerness or shipping?

And after I literally said my askbox was open for people that wanted to learn how to properly depict romance and sex favorable aro/ace characters

I KNOW it does more good to educate and not police. That's why I made a post offering to do it!

"Older aces don't have this mentality"

And????

I'm pretty sure plenty of people have discussed fandom aphobia before as well. Even if they didn't I don't give two shits what you say "older aces" care about, I'm still going to care about calling attention to underlying biases in fandom spaces.

"I've only seen this mindset in the Hazbin Hotel fandom"

A) other fandoms actually do have these discussions. Obey Me being one that I've seen most often (I should play it some time)

B) Hazbin Hotel is a pretty massively popular show relative to other shows and games with aro/ace rep

Also it really fucking says a lot when the only other canonically ace characters in the hellverse that are not sexualized (or at least not nearly as much as Alastor) by fans is a 17 year old (Don't misconstrue my words, I'm glad we're not sexualizing a 17 year old period. I'm just asking why it takes that for fandoms to have respect for an ace character's lack of sexuality), and Mammon. Hell, for one of the only two times I've seen Mammon sexualized the person got backlash not because he's canonically ace but because he's fat. What are we doing people?!

You can't tell me there's no bias or that people apparently care so much about sex positive ace rep when there is a clear difference in how ace characters are treated based on conventional attraction.

There's actually a lot of us who have been wanting to put "it's a spectrum" on the high shelf because it's so grossly misuesd in fandom spaces

If asking people to approach an underrepresented identity with care and respect is "policing", especially with regards to the very little canon rep we get, then I guess I'm head of the aspec CIA

Also I would probably hate to hear what someone with this opinion would have to say to literally any other minority in fandom that asks the same because I know aphobia is far from the only discrimination issue in fandom

Seriously all but proving my point about how it's hard to discuss this shit without being accused of policing people or being an anti, cause god fucking forbid an aroace stand their ground and say "I actually don't like being disregarded when we get so little representation already". If you say anything other than "ship whatever you want with no regards" you're a no-good fun spoiler

And of course the pick-me has to come to the rescue and be all "Well actually☝️depicting an ace/aro character like that provides representation for sex/romance favorable ace/aro people"

So I made grayrose pfps really just cuz they're for me and I'm grayrose (and other shit but ehh)

Kris Dreemurr from Deltarune is an intersex transneutral (link) agender person canonically using they/them pronouns, aroace as an umbrella label but specifically greyrose (link), and they have an unidentified hormonal variation!

Intersex flag-only and popular transneutral flag edits under the cut!

I love the emotional dynamics I can explore through queer emotions and attractions. I love how they subtly show characterization in ways a heterosexual monogamous and amatanormative relationship could not

[PT: Greyspec. End PT.]

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Greyspec, or Grayspec – not experiencing attraction in the same way as others. Some examples are: experiencing attraction less frequently; not experiencing it to the same degree as most; or feeling attraction only occasionally and not all the time.

Greyspec is the grey area between Aspec (little to no attraction) and Allo (experiences attraction normally)

There are many different ways to be greyspec, as it is a spectrum. And greyspec is not just for greysexual or greyromantic, it is a term that can be used for any and all attractions.