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Today is the 10 year anniversary of the Beginning of the End.

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tbh i don’t think any aesthetic or fandom is inherently leftist. people will say “you can’t be goth/punk/emo/alt/whatever if you’re not a leftist!” and “how do conservative star trek fans exist?” and like. it’s simple. they’re literally just aesthetics and fandoms. there is nothing inherently leftist about dressing a certain way, or listening to certain music, or watching certain tv shows.
i think a lot of people want to believe that performing a certain aesthetic or being in a certain fandom makes you a better leftist, because they’re at least semi-aware that they aren’t doing enough. but instead of going out and trying to improve anything, they just reframe something they’re already doing as radical and leftist.
I agree with this for everything except punk because punk starts in the mind and you truly can't be punk and be conservative. You can be punk and not look punk, but there is no way you can be punk and right wing.
If punk is being anti-conformity, and the left is dominant and conformist...
Not in this country it ain't.
For calibration: are you one of those people who thinks being left only applies to communists and socialists, and the mainstream american left is actually centrist or right-wing?
My yearly reminder that the Ramones were anti communist and Johnny Ramone in particular was a Republican.
I note they never answered my question. Gee, I wonder why.
Johnny Rotten voted for Trump in 2020. This made him more punk than Rage Against the Machine and Green Day who supported mandatory COVID vax and Joe Biden
If there’s one thing you should know about famous antiracist Ibram X Kendi, it’s that it’s not Ecks Kendi, it’s [click] Kendi, because it’s from isiXhosa language. You see, he decided that being named ‘Henry Rogers’ wasn’t Black enough for him, so he took his wife’s last name (of Kenyan origin) and took a Xhosa middle name.
In case you don’t know, the Xhosa inhabited the territory of contemporary South Africa. So, about 4700km from Kenya. It makes about as much sense as a WASP guy taking the name Håkan Fernández to celebrate his proud European heritage.
Gaze upon his earlier works. Just straight up Yakubian bullshit
i thought half the fun of being American (i.e. White (which, contrary to what I see from people who write a lot about “Whiteness” doesn’t seem to be nothing but damnation and misery, but full of fun)) was that it resulted in people with names exactly like “Håkan Fernández”. I think Americans (i.e Black people) should be entitled to have the same fun.
Wouldn’t know anything about it, I’m not American, I’m Polish (and therefore black as ordained by Jean-Jacques Dessalines).
But I’d assume that there is a difference between landing on such an intersection of identities due to tides of history, and crafting a paper-mache version of it yourself. There might not be a difference in 250 years, when all this is trivia for someone reading about early XXIc history. But right now, when all the parties are alive, there is.
So that’s why he chose X. I thought it was just to imitate Malcom X. Wait is that where Malcom X got the idea for changing his name to X from? The Xhosa language?
No, in Malcolm’s case it was the algebraic X, to represent the African surname he would never know. Compare the original use of ‘brother’ and ‘sister’ among African-Americans, as due to the chaos of the middle passage and everything that came after, for all they knew any other given African-American might be.
Kendi is just a modern Al Sharpton, just as Jussie Smollett is a modern Tawana Brawley.
I get that sex and drugs are fun but even im like. at least have a 3rd thing. at least one more hobby. you can have a 3rd hobby. this isnt a purity thing this is a some of u are fucking boring thing.
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Hey, silly question, but since I've been saving time and brain cells by not watching NuTrek... are there any MALE fatasses saving the day in Starfleet or is it only women who get to be courageous Starfleet officers and also morbidly obese?
Because from what I recall of Redlettermedia reviews... it's really only the stupid jackass who got himself killed while in his underwear (ha, what a gross fattie, amirite? No body-positivity for HIM!)
I'd check, but then I'd have to watch NuTrek.
NuTrek is something that should be ignored into oblivion. An exception would be a,ritual to get the vengeful ghosts of Gene Roddenberry and Leonard Nimoy to rise up and bitch slap the show runners and writers.

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Top 10 branches of science ranked by how bad it would suck to be killed by them (from best to worst)
Physics - probably the nicest just on the grounds of how fast that's gonna be. Like if you're a goner before any of the other sciences can get to you, you probably don't even have time to feel anything.
Biology - the most standard default way of dying. Most of the time it sucks but not badly enough to warrant you its own wikipedia page.
Geology - one of the oldest OG classics. Rock hits Og. Og is gone.
Psychology - slow tigers are chasing you.
Zoology - fast tigers are chasing you.
Sociology - idk me and the rest of the angry mob agree that you had it coming.
Chemistry - this is a hard one to place because there's a lot of variation. But anyhow you're getting undone on a cellular level.
Mathematics - how the fuck did you even do that.
Cosmology - why the fuck did you even do that?
Theology - what the fuck did you even do?
This is like ten episodes of Star Trek in a row.
Yeah, because the Harris campaign disenfranchized its entire base and left votes on the table by listening to fucking consultants, buying **TV ADS** IN 2024, and saying she wouldn't be any different from biden at the peak of his unpopularity.
She tanked us by running and doing it bad, he tanked us by robbing us of a primary. The democrats hate you, you should hate them back-- better yet, go Be them. Be the next mamdani
i really ought to just scroll away but i cant help myself, essentially the choices you were presented with were "pie", "swarm of poison bees" and "roll a dice on the other two options"
how on EARTH does anyone, even someone who dislikes that flavour of pie, think chancing being served the bees is a good idea? and now the whole resturants getting stung because of your decisions maybe at least have the decency to pretend to regret it, geez
What a fantastic analogy
Mamdani isn't eligible for POTUS, so you can disregard anything else this idiot is saying, but like...
Biden was unpopular after doing a bunch of shit his Warrenite staffers suggested in an era of slight inflation due to COVID recovery, and Trump urging republicans to kill the bipartisan border bill. That's what flipped a bunch of "Did not Vote" people over to GOP out of fear on a 1.5% margin. to go "WAAAH WE DIDNT HAVE A PWIMAWY 100 Days out after Biden was effectively made to drip by the likes of Clooney/Pelosi after the press freaked out about Debategate after freaking out over groceries then. (Hi vibecession I miss you) is to be be a credulous moron who doesn't know a primary already happened. (or can't admit one did) Biden was unpopular with the press and the median voters because he did what lefties SAID they wanted, like actually withdraw from Afghanistan after trump set him up in the worst possible position for it. Or do student loan forgiveness for "Dumb liberals with basketweaving degrees and not people who paid off their loans or people who worked a non college job" Like. Incredibly good for the people whose loans were paid etc but it cost him. He got zero credit for it from the left or mainstream media. Again. Harris primarily lost because of anti-incumbent sentiment focused around perceptions of inflation and fears around immigration because thats what the median voters care about. It looks like we're having a week where Lefties wanna take credit for ALSO tanking Harris for No Primary And Gaza Biden Bad so shit. You can have it too. Any leftie who didn't vote Harris because "Muh Gaza" is as politically astute and morally unimpeachable as this fucking idiot and deserves nothing but mockery for the rest of their lives, for the USAID cancellation deaths ALONE.
Seriously. Fuck you all.
It's hard to disaggregate 'Kamala Harris was a shit campaigner' from 'Kamala Harris took losing issues'.
If you want to blame someone left of center for the current administration, it should still be Joe Biden.
So here's a hot take
If you "don't understand" how people could have voted for Trump then you don't get to have an opinion about the election. You have shown that you do not possess the skills necessary to analyze the situation.
Also if you blame the media for Biden losing you don't get to have an opinion on anything. Biden was visibly sundowning on stage. It happened where everyone saw it. He was not forced out by the mean ol' Trump-loving media. The media, which was overwhelmingly anti-Trump and anyone who does not see this is delusional, said he had to drop out because he was clearly senile, clearly going to lose the election if he was the candidate, and the media was anti-Trump and did not want Trump to win.
Biden's actions in material reality had consequences in material reality. There was not a primary in 2024 because we could see what happened and there wasn't a primary. The party aligned behind the incumbent while, and this is important, insulting and lying about anyone concerned with Biden's mental competency. They staked credibility, which they did not have much of, on Biden being competent. Then he was very visibly senile on stage where everyone could see it. Then Harris had to be the candidate, despite being a very bad candidate and literally and not figuratively a diversity hire, because we did not do the primary where we attempt to pick a good candidate. She only had 100 days to campaign due to decisions the Democratic Party made and that nobody else forced them into, decisions like "instead of doing the part where we pick a good candidate, run an extremely unpopular incumbent who is clearly going senile and insult and lie about anyone who notices."
Harris was an unmitigated disaster who was dead last in the 2020 primary and per Joe Biden himself was a diversity hire. Between that and the Biden/Harris administration never missing an opportunity to screw up a lot of people were angry enough to vote Trump, or not vote at all as a "plague on both your houses" move. Personally I wrote in Vermin Supreme because I know that Oregon is full of "vote blue no matter who" so I was free to vote my conscience.
Should you, dear reader, put concealed concrete in your mailbox, so that if someone is going around smashing mailboxes, hitting it breaks his arm?
This debate is rolling on Twitter. Right-wingers argue that steal fortified mailboxes will teach mailbox smashers not to smash mailboxes. More lib/left users argue that the potential damage to the arm is disproportionate to the crime.
I think the answer here is pretty straightforward: ninja-armbreaker mailboxes are for when the rate of mailbox attacks is high (because the state isn't doing its job), and not for when mailbox attack rates are low.
When mailbox attacks are low, it's potential "teachable moment" on a mailbox by mailbox basis, and when smash rates are high either no one's learning anything or there are roving gangs of mailbox raiders.
I thought that there had been a court case about a very similar circumstance, and a search turned up the case of Snay v. Burr (2021, Ohio).
The mailbox in question had been repeatedly vandalized, so the owner rebuilt the mailbox with an eight-inch pipe set three feet deep in concrete. An innocent party's vehicle departed the roadway, collided with the mailbox, and flipped. The vehicle's sole occupant was permanently paralyzed below the neck, and sued, saying that the proximate cause of his injury was not his loss of control of the vehicle and subsequent departure from the roadway, but the abnormally-strong mailbox.
Writing for the Court majority, Chief Justice Maureen O’Connor stated the Court has repeatedly ruled political subdivisions, landowners, and others owe a duty of care to drivers if they create hazards that “affect the safety of ordinary travel on the road.” Because Matthew and Diane Burr’s mailbox did not affect the safety of ordinary travel on the regularly traveled portion of Young Road, they are not responsible for the injuries suffered by Cletus Snay, she concluded.
I think that any court would be even less sympathetic to someone who suffered an injury in the course of voluntarily committing a crime.
Personally, I think "a car having an accident might crash into the mailbox" is actually a reasonable justification not to make concrete-fortified mailboxes (stealth or not) the norm.
By comparison, suppose that a man puts a landmine into his house. A firefighter could end up entering, and get blown up by the landmine. Life is full of unexpected outcomes.
From this brief summary, I think that much of the moral liability lies with the vandals.
I probably wouldn't, because I don't want to seriously injure someone or get in legal trouble over a mailbox.
Just like I won't put laxatives in my food to deter thieves.
On the other hand, if I block the vandals with concrete fenceposts that are clearly visible - with hivis tape, even - that's a lot more justifiable, though I'm still not certain.
I think the vandals get one mailbox and then you build a reinforced one. Where I live the mailboxes are pre-fortified so the idiots should know better. We have neighborhood boxes mounted on 4"x4" steel poles bolted to a concrete slab. Trying to knock one down will hurt, and the postal inspector will investigate. In the US you don't mess with the postal inspectors.
I never got around to playing Disco Elysium, and looking at how it affected people I know, I'm kinda glad I didn't. I mean, these are the people slowly approaching 40 who have a whole lotta nothing to show for it, so you'd expect their views to become more unhinged over time, but the game still feels like a goddamn cognitohazard.
It's pretty good though, and you don't strike me as the type who'd get cognitohazarded by interesting game writing.
Oh I don't doubt it's good, but also the longer I don't play it, the funnier it gets. It's like Homestuck in that way.
I tried to read the LP, but the LPer was a leftist.
Haven't played it, just watched some deep-dive reviews of it. So there's the warning of third hand information. So!
The thing is, the storyline, metanarrative and gameplay all sound like extremely interesting things. But the fandom latched onto what were, in essence, narrative failure states as if they were the whole purpose of the story.
Like, the core element is that you are what remains of a talented and flawed detective just after a major psychotic break, and it's up to you as the player to not just navigate a deep and honestly corrupt murder mystery but also the mental recovery of said detective, with there being many risks and hazards that could cause one of many backslides or full on delusional psychosis due to the detective you control not being a complete enough identity to be able to resist further mental strains.
An issue not aided by the fact that the world itself is breaking down a bit due to supernatural elements. But that's more of a side-point to the greater narrative.
But yeah, the STORY is one of a dark noir, of murders and conspiracies and a broken hero.
The Fandom latched on to all the silly things your broken person will do because he doesn't have the cognitive function to know better.

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genuinely and for real if you change your fundamental values because people are mean to you then you’re stupidddddd. “men are going to the right because leftists are mean to them” okay well they are stupid. “so and so became a terf bc trans people were mean to them” stupid behaviour. that was stupid of them. I don’t think “the left” is “failing” men. I think those men are stupid.
Men are going to the right because the toxicity of the left blatantly reveals the utter lack of intellectual framework behind leftist positions.
You can't prove your positions via reasoning which is why you resort to character assassination and physical violence.
Leftists haven't figured out you can't shame someone into supporting you.
That's because leftists are stupid.
Plot twist: men aren’t going to the right. They believe everything they did 20 years ago. Women are going to the left, because of feminist oppression narratives.
And if you change your fundamental values because someone tells you people are mean to you, then you are not merely stupid but subhumanly so.
The more time any person who’s paying attention spends around Tumblr feminists, the closer “women are equal to men” gets to being as purely faith-based a belief as the doctrine of Transubstantiation.
i swear to god every antizionist argument is like "did you guys know that israel is a nation-state??? checkmate zionazi!" as though the alternative they're arguing in favor of is not a palestinian nation-state to exist in place of the jewish one
Let me ask you this: why does israel have the right to self-determination and to live on that land, but the Palestinian people who have been living and farming that land (long before zionists used the holocaust as an excuse to forcibly steal their land) do not? Why do israelis have that right but Palestinians don’t?
"zionists using the holocaust to steal their land" is a weird way to say "holocaust survivors fled to the only country that would accept them at the time because the alternative was either staying in the concentration-turned-refugee camps or getting massacred when they tried to return to their actual homes," but whatever. here's a question for you: where in this post did i so much as suggest that im opposed to the existence of a palestinian state? please provide an exact quote.
If you believe israel has a right to exist, you do not believe Palestine has a right self-determine. You do understand that israel is a settler colony that exists because it is taking land from Palestinian people, right? Their “right” to exist inherently dictates that Palestine does not have a right to exist because israel is taking their land and sovereignty away. A two state solution still asserts that the settler colony has the right to take someone else’s land and govern itself but the people who’s land was taken do not have the right to govern themselves on the land that was stolen. Believing in israel’s “right” to statehood and self-determination requires those things be taken from the Palestinian people. How is this a difficult concept for zionists to understand?
Well, for starters, usually antizionist arguments support the UN pretty heavily.
And since the UN voted in 1947 to partition the land into Israel and Palestine, it's confusing when people who usually support it unconditionally are like, "Israel shouldn't exist, period!"
Yes, I assume that's an indicator that someone doesn't know the history involved. Obviously.
But then where do you start? Because the problem with most antizionist arguments is they contradict so much history, it's hard to counter them without writing a ten-page paper. And just responding with "that never happened" wouldn't really advance the conversation at all.
Like: "everyone knows" this is settler-colonialism. What nobody apparently knows is what settler-colonialism looks like. The Indigenous Foundation has a good piece about it: settler-colonialism happens "when the colonizer comes to stay and as such the distinction between the colony and the imperial nation is lost. Settler colonialism as a structure requires genocide... enacted through practices like the creation of reserves, residential schools, enfranchisement and abduction into state custody."
The Zionist movement started while that land was still under the Ottoman Empire. The first forty years of Jewish immigration back to their homeland consisted of Jews fleeing countries that were killing them, and moving to a 500-year-old empire. The only reason that wasn't longer than the first forty years is that the Ottoman Empire fell in World War One.
Sure, if you take nineteenth-century vocabulary out of context, you can make it sound like they wanted to violently colonize it.
If you entirely overlook the use of "settle" as what you do when you move to a new place, and "colonies" as in artist's colonies, the Freedom Colonies, the Ruskin Colonies, the Amana Colonies, the Llano del Rio Colony, and the Bishop Hill Colony, then sure! You can claim that what a bunch of socialist Jews meant was that they wanted to become settler-colonists with no empire, no weapons, no power, and no genocide, on land that already belonged to a dang empire.
And if you looked at this magazine ad for the Llano del Rio Colony today, you could easily and naturally assume that it was a frontier-era call for settler-colonialism in pre-state California.
But it's actually from 1914, almost 75 years after the United States annexed California. The California Genocide had already killed 90% of the indigenous population (the ones the Spanish Empire left alive).
Settler-colonialism had done its job ages before this. This was actually an attempt to start a utopian socialist commune.
Just about anything labeled a "colony" by that point was being started either to get away from religious persecution, or start a utopian socialist or communist community.
Usually, they were agricultural to some extent, to help the communities be more self-sufficient. (And also, because we're not the first generation to fantasize about running off to live on idyllic communal farms.)
In their correct historical context, "settlements" and "colonies" were interchangeable terms for intentional community-building.
Now, you'd think that if that were true, there would have been evidence in the form of, say, Zionists starting a whole bunch of actual utopian socialist agrarian communities --
Oh worm?
The biggest example of how often the terms were used this way, compared to how we read and use them today, is the fact that one of the major early Zionist organizations was "the Jewish Colonization Association (JCA), founded by Baron Maurice de Hirsch, whose Palestinian operation was only part of a world-wide scheme to…"
Strip the land of its resources for his personal benefit? Colonize the entire Middle East? Take over the world?
No: "encourage Jews to engage in agriculture."
Now, I know none of that matters. Because ultimately, the argument will still be, "no matter what their words meant, their actions involved attacking Palestinians and stealing their land."
The question is: fucking when??
It wasn't during the Ottoman Empire.
Then that fell. And the League of Nations - the precursor to the United Nations - met with different peoples all across the fallen Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian Empires, to figure out which lands were effectively already countries, and which ones should be but needed infrastructure first.
It wasn't during that process.
Then the League of Nations mandated that the southern chunk of Syria - the region commonly called Palestine or the Holy Land - would be a new country called Palestine.
Jews would be allowed and encouraged to keep immigrating there, in recognition of "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country."
The Jewish and Arab communities would each mostly self-govern, and they would work together on building the overarching federal government. Britain would run it in the meantime, and help them in whatever way it could.
It wasn't during the Mandate era.
The Mandate era did see a lot of action, though.
There were anti-Jewish attacks, riots, and massacres in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1924, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1932, 1933, 1935, and perhaps most famously, throughout 1936-1939. Jews started fighting back (via the Irgun) at the very end of 1937.
That last bit was nicknamed the "Arab Revolt." (Don't confuse it with the actual "Arab Revolt" of WWI, where Arab groups worked with the British to take down the Ottoman Empire.)
And this is where anti-colonialism actually comes in.
The handful of rich fascist Hitler fanboys who organized these attacks, like Amin al-Husseini, had lost some privilege and power-over when the Ottoman Empire fell. They were also angry at having to treat Jews as equals, and let them participate in government build a government with them?!
And they were scared that if enough Jews immigrated, Arabs would become a minority, and Jews would be in power - either by default, or by design.
(This despite the fact that even in 1947, Jews were only about a third of Palestine's population.)
That was one of the biggest objections to the Mandate, pretty much from the moment it was even proposed. The fact that it allowed, even encouraged, Jewish immigration.
It didn't put any limits on Arab immigration, which increased dramatically. The problem was just the fact that nobody could ban land sales to Jews anymore - which they'd been doing on and off for centuries.
It's wild to me that radical leftists have embraced such an intensely conservative argument. Even antizionists who know that Jews were immigrating for decades, before the Empire fell, routinely oppose the immigration itself. Increased Jewish immigration = bad and nefarious.
This is an argument that belongs in the far right's mouth, not ours.
The "Arab Revolt, Part Deux" consisted of three years of attacks on Jews, Brits, and (most of all) on moderate Arabs who supported coexistence.
Britain almost declared martial law to shut it down. But the revolt's leadership consisted of well-connected little dickheads. And they were able to get a bunch of leaders across the Arab world on their side. Britain was desperate to stay on the Arab world's good side, not least Because Oil.
So it didn't declare martial law. Instead, it told the League of Nations to give up on the whole Mandate, and to partition the land instead. And it issued the White Paper, which committed to effectively ending Jewish immigration.
(In 1939! The year AFTER dozens of countries, including Britain, had held the Evian Conference, agreed that the Jews were all gonna die if nobody took them in, and then refused to take them in. Britain, afterward: "Oh yeah -- they can't go to Palestine, either. Almost forgot to say that part.")
And the little dickheads rejoiced.
Except for Amin al-Husseini, the leader Britain had installed for Arab Palestine.
He rejected the White Paper entirely, because he didn't want partition. He wanted one big, united, Arab Palestine, and he wanted to rule over it.
If all of this sounds like bullshit politically improbable, let's see what he and his allies said about it! In fact, let's go back to the reaction to Britain recommending partition.
In 1937, when Britain recommended partitioning the land into an Arab Palestine and a Jewish Israel, Arab leaders held the Bludan Congress.
Again: this is after almost 30 years of Arab attacks on the Jewish community, and before even one Jewish attack on the Arab community.
This was still an entirely one-sided battle.
From the report of the Congress's Finance and Economic Committee:
From the Congress's final report:
Again: it was Britain that tried to establish a Jewish state.
Not because the Zionists lobbied for any such thing.
Because the level of anti-Zionist violence had reached the point that Britain threw up its hands and said, "These people cannot co-exist."
This was literally entirely a non-Jewish problem.
The Bludan Congress, to the best of my knowledge, is also the origin of the call for freeing, or at that point "liberating," Palestine.
This is the same position Hamas established in its charter, exactly 50 years later:
(To Hamas, the land Israel is on isn't "Israel." It's "Occupied Palestine," or "the Interior" (of Palestine).
Just like the Bludan Congress, when Hamas talks about "liberating" that land it means "restoring it to the Arab world."
Also, importantly: "The Islamic Resistance," aka Hamas, is putting a fake-religious spin on this position. Because it's a far-right fundamentalist group that uses a veneer of religion to gain power. I.e., it's the equivalent of Christian Nationalist groups.
The argument that actually, legally, conquering something once means it's yours forever, is not fucking widely accepted by the actual real-life Muslim world: it's a blatantly imperialist position, plain and simple.)
The reports from the Bludan Congress are full of statements like, "Palestine has been an Arab country for more than one thousand three hundred years; and... moreover, this country was the part which completed the Arab territory."
In other words:
Arabs conquered the land 1,300 years before.
If it's not under full Arab rule now, there will be a hole in the Arab world -- it won't be there "completing" it like before.
Arabs have the right to sovereign rule over the entire land, in perpetuity.
Jews are a minority, so they don't have the right to participate in government.
They should remain a minority, and the majority should decide what safeguarding their rights looks like.
In other other words: The powers that be wanted - in fact, had expected - to keep the entire region functioning as an Arab empire. Like it had before the Ottoman Empire conquered a large part of it. Like it had, under regional rulers, for most of that time too. This was known as the pan-Arab nationalist movement.
They wanted to return to the status quo where Jews, as a minority, were not allowed to participate in government, work in civil service, immigrate, build synagogues, testify in self-defense, physically defend themselves, etc.
Palestinian nationalism or self-determination was not involved. Nobody was arguing that the Arab Palestinian farmers - well, nobody was arguing ANYTHING on behalf of the farmers. This was emphatically a movement of the elite and powerful. But they especially weren't arguing that the Arabs who farmed the land had extra bonus rights to it.
From 1937 through 1947, there was a certain amount of back-and-forth actual gun-and-bomb fighting.
But still no attacking Palestinians and stealing their land.
And that brings us to the part with the actual armies.
In 1947, the newly-formed United Nations finally did vote to partition the land into a 55% Jewish Israel, and a 90% Arab Palestine. Britain would officially leave on May 15, 1948.
The thing is.
Amin al-Husseini was still the leader of the Arab Higher Committee, the government of Arab Palestine.
In absentia, because his ass had genuinely, I swear I'm not making this up, gone off and become a bonafide Nazi war criminal in the meantime.
He and his cronies still flatly refused partition. They flatly refused to even participate in negotiations of any kind.
Instead, they convinced the leaders of every surrounding country, plus Iraq, to invade.
Still not in order to "free Palestine."
Still to yeet the Jews and take the land for the Arab world.
Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt raised volunteer armies to join those of the Arab Higher Committee, so that they could low-key invade and take control of as much land as possible without Britain retaliating.
Britain was Extremely Fucking Done with the whole situation. It was willing to overlook a lot in order to get the fuck out of there on time.
To quote the New York Times, almost exactly seventy-eight years ago:
As the critical date approaches, the state of affairs for the Jews, the Arabs and the U. N., is this: The Jews have carved out their state in Palestine. They have taken control of a region roughly corresponding to the area allotted to them under the U. N. General Assembly's partition plan of last Nov. 29. They have achieved their objective, at least temporarily, by defeating the Arabs in bitter battles. The Arabs in Palestine have been promised "deliverance" by the Arab countries of the Middle East.
They promised to free Palestine, and they failed.
But they did drive hundreds of thousands of Arab Palestinians out and into their own neighboring lands before the war officially started, by making life fucking unlivable in the meantime:
In Palestine last week the stutter of Sten guns, the crack of rifle fire, the explosion of grenades were the common sounds in many places. There was little normal life anywhere. Everyone was affected by the war: those who did not actually take part in the fighting lived in a state of acute nervous tension. Business -except the selling of food-had generally collapsed. British control, as troops were withdrawn, slipped faster and faster. The courts had folded up.
These screenshots are from Benny Morris's The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem. He notes that 40,000 Arab Palestinians had temporarily left the country during "Arab Revolt Jr.," so the neighboring countries and the AHC didn't think anything of it at first.
As the war intensified and rumors spread, people started fleeing the shifting war front in droves. Both Arabs and Jews were internally displaced, but only Arabs fled - because, again, all the surrounding countries were invading to free it from the Jews. They certainly weren't about to take Jewish refugees in themselves.
He notes that it's often unclear whether villagers left because they were fleeing in anticipation of a battle, during/as the result of a battle, or whether they were being forced to leave. But all told, he lists about 25 villages that were expelled by Jewish forces, either because the village had been taken over by invading armies, or the villagers had allied with the armies - or because the village was on the front lines and was going to be attacked repeatedly. He lists another 6 that were expelled by Arab forces: Haifa, Beit Nabala, Ma'dhar, Hadatha, 'Ulam, and Sirin.
In the other nearly 340 villages, people fled because the war came to their doorsteps, or was about to, or they were afraid it was about to.
A huge number of those refugees never left the country.
Jordan annexed what's now called the West Bank. Egypt annexed what's now called the Gaza Strip. They yeeted the Jews from those bits first, and kept the Arab residents, both displaced and not.
According to contemporary counts, 200,000 Arab Palestinians were internally displaced in the Gaza Strip, along with the 70,000 people who already lived there, and 280,000 in the West Bank. Of those who actually left the country on purpose, 70,000 went to Jordan, and 4,000 to Iraq, both of which gave them citizenship; 75,000 went to Syria, and 97,000 to Lebanon, which STILL refuse citizenship to them and all their descendants. (For a total of 246,000 who genuinely left the country, rather than being "annexed.")
Within Israel, there were 31,000 Arab now-Israelis who had been internally displaced, and about 115,000 more who hadn't; 17,000 Jewish Israelis who had been internally displaced; and about 97,000 refugees living in tent camps.
Lebanon and Egypt said they didn't want to keep the Palestinians because they didn't have room. Syria did have room48,, but said it didn't want to keep them because they wanted to go home.
And Israel wanted to negotiate a peace agreement, because the armistice left it without established borders and without Jerusalem.I t was willing to take 100,000 refugees back, and to compensate others for their lands. But it also wanted to negotiate compensation from the invading countries, for the damages they had caused to those lands.
A large part of the reason Israel was unwilling to take more people back was that it was also getting an average of 20,000 Jewish refugees a month, from both the Holocaust and the Arab world. (There would ultimately end up being twice as many Jewish refugees from Arab countries, as Arab refugees from the 1948 war.)
Which is why, in 1950, there were already 97,000 people living in tent cities in Israel. Despite the fact that there had only been about 48,000 total refugees, within Israel, from the war.
In conclusion: That never happened.
Jews did not need a state because it was “promised” to us. We needed a state because all your grandparents were happily killing us.
Our ethnic ties to the land influenced the location of our state. But they were not actually the reason that we decided to build one.
So is it a racially diverse state where everyone is accepted or is it a Jewish ethnostate? If it protects Jews then why is it constantly provoking retaliation from its neighbors? If it was bad when Jews were rounded up and murdered why is it acceptable when Israeli Jews do it to Gazans?
Thanks for asking! Israel is in fact an incredibly diverse country where Jews only make up around 70% of the population and the rest enjoy full rights as Israeli citizens. Arabs, both Muslim and Christian, make up around 20% of the population, which I bet is more than whatever pasty country you’re from. Arab Muslims hold seats in the parliament, there are Arab judges in the highest courts, and the Arab population is disproportionately represented in healthcare (about a quarter of doctors in Israel are Arabs).
The rest of your questions are answered by the fact that our kindly neighbors keep trying to murder us with bombs knives and missiles.
Have a great day!
Over 80% of Israelis were born in Israel, too.
So is it a racially diverse state where everyone is accepted or is it a Jewish ethnostate?
Your side are the ones claiming it's an ethnostate.
Demographically and legally, Israel's much less of an ethnostate than, um, Gaza.
If it protects Jews then why is it constantly provoking retaliation from its neighbors?
That…that doesn't even make sense. "Provoking retaliation" demonstrably includes "existing as a majority Jewish state at all".
You're trying to victim-blame Israel for the people who hate it.
If it was bad when Jews were rounded up and murdered why is it acceptable when Israeli Jews do it to Gazans?
NO U is not a counterargument.
Especially when the government you're tacitly defending has spent decades killing Jewish civilians with unguided AOE weapons (and direct, in-person, targeting) to no productive end.
And not actually addressing OP's central point.

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No, I was told it was bad by the numerous historical accounts of mass murder and totalitarian autocracy. It failed, it lost the Cold War, and now Europe is free. Democracy and the will of the people triumphed over one-party dictatorships from Prague to Warsaw. Get over it.
Well no segregation was an invention of the democrat party (the switch never happened a grand dragon of the kkk remained a democrat and joe Biden eulogized him) . The democrats are pro communist and socialist so like all communists op is wrong about everything in the meme
Um...no. There indeed was no party switch, as both parties had liberal and conservative wings prior to the 70s/80s(LBJ started the realignment, Reagan finished it), but if they're all pro-communist then that word has no meaning. If half our political establishment supported communism our democracy would've died decades ago, and all it does to throw the word around like that is devalue it.
Name one member of either party that switched? It is a cope mechanism, I was 12 living in Berlin when I saw a man attempt to escape communism. Communism and socialism are authoritarian philosophical ideas that make everyone slaves to the state.
I never said it was a switch, it was a realignment. Voters shifting over a period of decades, not the liberals and conservatives magically swapping places like is often described. And I never said communism wasn't awful, I said we can't label everyone left-of-center as a communist or it devalues the term. How much has the word Nazi been devalued now that its common meaning is just "person I disagree with?" It's precisely because communism is so abominable that the word shouldn't be cheapened.
The party that introduced Jim Crow, is the party wearing "eat the rich" ball gowns.