When Your Partner's Friend Is Depressed and Destructive
My partner J has a friend L who lives a few hours drive away. Â J and L knew each other for a little over a year before J and I got together a few years ago. Â They were both in a bad place mentally when they first met online. Â They used to talk on the phone or video chat for hours almost every night. Â When J and I first got together, they would still talk a decent amount, but by now they don't talk much at all. Â I think L was interested in J, and while I try not to be paranoid, I have seen her try a few times, unsuccessfully, to drive a wedge between J and me in the past. Â Needless to say, I am not a big fan of L.
Additionally, L is a raging alcoholic who has been to rehab before but didn't really take it seriously. She's often depressed and talks regularly about suicide. Â She is a big fan of guns and owns many. Â Her house has been in danger of foreclosure for a while, she got a DWI and had her license suspended temporarily, and while she is usually single, she intermittently dates people even more unstable than herself, which never ends well.
I feel really bad for L and I don't want L to kill herself, which I see as a very realistic possibility. But I don't like her. At all.
J isn't so great with staying in touch with friends, so I try to remind her to call L periodically, but lately J has been avoiding making these calls. Â She says that she doesn't want to have another hour or longer call of L talking about how shitty everything is and saying "goodbye" in a dozen different, ominous ways. Â I have coached J in the past with what to say to L when she gets like this but it's always the same broken record kind of conversation. Â J seemed annoyed the last few times I reminded her that she may want to check in with L, so I recently asked if she wants me to stop reminding her, and she said yes.
I know that L is not my friend and therefore, this is not my problem, and even if she were my friend, there probably isn't a whole lot I could do. Â But even if there's nothing I can do...I wonder what I can do! Â I am a problem solver and an empath. Â It makes me feel so bad that L is suffering with such severe depression (something I've regularly struggled with in my past), and I wish I could help ease her pain somehow. But I simultaneously can't stand her as a person.
I don't even know what my question really is here... but... advice? Please?
Youâve answered your own non-question: This is not your problem, and thereâs nothing you can do.
I mean, not nothing. You could call this hotline and see what they say. But as a general rule, you canât help someone who doesnât want to get better. L needs doctors and a real support network, not a failed cyber-bae and her disdainful partner. Neither you nor J can give L what she needs.
Let it go. Blast some Frozen and sing along: Let it gooooooo. Not only is L not your problem, but your contempt for her is clear: You tell me over and over that you are ânot a big fan,â âdonât like her,â âcanât stand her.â And your partner seems to have tired of her as well. So, why spend precious time and energy on her? It sounds to me like your insistence on sustained contact with L is a big show for your partner, to demonstrate how cool and tolerant and not-jealous you are. But itâs up to J what friendships she chooses to let go of, and it sounds like this is one youâd be happier not having in your periphery.
Stop telling yourself bullshit stories about your own goodness. Pushing your partner to hold onto this friendship is not about your empathy and problem-solving, itâs about your need to feel good about yourself. Listen: if L does eventually kill herself, it will never be anything but Lâs decision, for which she is entirely responsible. And I think you know that. But you also wanna know that it wasnât your fault, dang it! Because you were being a Good Person and looking out for queers with mental illnesses, even the ones you really really donât like, because youâre the Bigger Person! You know on some level that this is bullshit. Cut the masochism and find other ways to be a Good Person. Her life is not and never was in your hands.
Do I sound incredibly callous right now? Let me give you some context. After I left my ex, he emailed me and told me he was suicidal, that every moment of his life had become a struggle not to kill himself. When I called him in a panic, he told me he wasnât going to kill himself, but convinced me to come over. As I sobbed and begged him to stay alive, he just shrugged and said, âI mean, are you really surprised?â I was supposed to have expected this. I was supposed to have known that leaving him would endanger his life, so I was a bad person for leaving him. He then tried to get me to cuddle with him - which, if past attempted breakups with him were any indication, would have led to him kissing me and initiating sex, and us getting back together. I said no.
He wasnât fucking suicidal; he just wanted to keep me on the hook. And Iâm not sure L is suicidal, either. It seems from your letter that the only reason J has kept reaching out to L, and the only reason you encourage her to do so, is because L has made so many veiled references to saying âgoodbye.â These vague, ominous threats have kept a steady stream of attention and compassion coming to L, so for her, theyâre worth keeping up. But it sounds like J has had enough, and I donât blame her.
I do feel for L quite a bit. Depression is no joke. Addiction is no joke. Trying to stay afloat in this cruel and heartless world is no joke. But youâve also given me no indication that Jâs conversations with L have been any help, seeing as itâs always the same conversation. If she does become a danger to herself, she needs to go to an emergency room. Barring that, itâs not Jâs job or yours to make sure she keeps herself alive. And you know it.
The world is burning. We need all our strength right now, and it sounds like L drains both yours and your partnerâs. If you want to look out for queers with mental illnesses, there are a million organizations that you can volunteer with, and none of those kids that you end up tutoring or mentoring or fundraising for will have tried to sabotage your relationship.
Thank you for trying to take care of your tribe. Thank you for caring. You can let this go. You will still be good.