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He is also surprisingly bad at being a well-behaved inmate and he has absolutely no problem with making promises he does not intend on keeping, especially when he is making them to the prison wardens. The Ninja ended up in Kryptarium Prison two times in total throughout the entire series - once in season 6 and once in Crystalized and BOTH of these times Lloyd, very specifically:

- has immediately gotten into a fight with another prisoner,

- has sworn to not cause any trouble or try escaping to someone in charge of keeping him there...

- ...and has caused trouble and/or tried escaping not long after.

Twice now, this exact scenario has played out so similarly, that it's striking.

In season 6 my boy has immediately assured the Warden that he will in fact not be causing trouble like a liar he is.

Then, when the Mechanic started picking on him he promptly escalated the conflict by talking back to him

And then he conducted an entire SUCCESSFUL prison escape of 7 people in total, one which included finding and freeing a prisoner trapped in a different cell, disabling prison cameras, conducting multiple emergency plans to slow the possible chase party in case they are noticed and somehow predicting the most likely route to the prison's sewer system.

Also, I'll have you know that this little shit has smuggled a fork to his cell after a fight in the cafeteria and managed to lockpick his vengestone handcuffs with it, to complete astonishment of all the other Ninja.

The devious little smirk, look at him

Like, clearly he learned a thing or two from Darkley's despite the teachers claiming that he was rather bad at villainy. No way he wasn't getting straight A's on prison escape excercises.

I am even more convinced after going a little foreward and seeing him found in the exact same scenario in Crystalized, I am not even joking, how similar the pattern is.

We've got, again, in very quick succession:

Lloyd arguing with another prisoner, this time with Ronin, just about ready to square up with him then and there

...then mere seconds after they are broken up he ends up promising to the warden that he won't cause any trouble

And then literally not a minute passes before he is conducting a one-person spontagneous prison escape stopped not even because he got cornered, but because in that case escaping wasn't really a goal. In this very much impriovised stunt, Lloyd has managed to seamlessly steal an access card from the prison guard, slow the chase down by destroying the access panels as he went to avoid immediate capture, get free from a dozen of officers pilling up on top of him and jump down the staircase all the way to the first floor without injury.

Also, just saying, didn't even break a sweat. Perfect complexion, perfect hair, getting cuffed down like a true diva.

It's just...Lloyd is a sweetheart. He is soft and forgiving and gentle and kind.

And he is also the son of a warlord who spent most of his childhood wanting to be a villain. He went to a school that was meant to raise him to be one. And I really like the subtle ways the show explores that side of him, that side that Lloyd himself probably rarely even thinks back to nowadays, but one that did stay with him despite it all in some way. It's the little things. The way he isn't afraid to talk back to thugs, they way he plays dirty during battle or plays little tricks on the enemy he's fighting

...or the way he acts in prison.

Little things that I like about his character and that I think the show handled very well.

I was re-watching possession and kinda wondered what happened after the big battle at the end, (mainly with Lloyd) After barely being able to walk, to having to fight Morro (again) and also watching his dad die for like the third time- his adrenaline probably crashed pretty hard

Long story short I just wanted an excuse to draw hurt comfort (comfort? Idk man I guess not being possessed would be pretty comforting)

The official post-Crisis Bat age gap guide! I don't think I missed anyone important but if I did, shhh, no I didn't.

*Please note that Jason's age gaps immediately explode if it's post-death aging; this is just chronological aging

Anyway, that was me, couls you answer it with this one because I wont see it otherwise

(Im so sorry!!)

(^ this is the anon in question)

Hi yeah I can definitely help with that! Jason not dying at 15 is one of my favorite hills to die on in comics :) Before I get into the timeline properly, here are some of my other posts with details on Jason's age, they have screenshots & panels & whatnot :)

So yes! Jason didn't die at 15 and, while I don't personally subscribe to it (or I didn't before making this post), you can definitely make a case for Jason becoming Robin before 12. Please note that unless specifically stated otherwise, everything I'm telling you is post-Crisis canon (1985-2011). Cool? Cool. Let's get into it. (Cut because this got way longer than expected)

Tim is 13 in his first appearance. A Lonely Place of Dying is generally accepted to be six months after DitF, but I'm not actually finding any evidence for that. Here's what I've got:

We know that Two-Face attempts to kill Batman on "the twenty-second" but not the month. We know that Two-Face has been scheming for at least four weeks. Gordon mentions the events of Batman Annual #13, which takes place August 3. Jason's death is referenced as being recent in Batman Annual #13, which would make sense with the late July date. Based on this information and looking at a 1989 calendar, I think that this actually puts ALPoD in September. More specifically, it starts on September 21 and goes for a few days. (This is also confirmed by the newspaper Tim reads about Haly's closing in the coming October, which indicates that it's not yet October seeing as the circus is still running.)

All this to say, Jason dies in late July at almost 13. Tim shows up two months later at 13. He's also only ever had one birthday, July 19, which means that he is in fact older than Jason.

Cass is still the same age as Jason, only seven months older, which makes her six months older than Tim. Meaning that Steph is the second-oldest Robin??? She's a year older than Tim, isn't she? Which makes her a year older than Jason and a couple months older than Cass??? I believe she's supposed to be a year younger than Cass & Jason but tbh I haven't read enough of her interactions with Cass to know whether her age gap with Cass or Tim should be prioritized. I can come back to that at a later date. But Cass, Tim, & Jason should all be born in the same calendar year.

Lost Days, UTRH, & Jason's Convoluted Aging

None of my old calculations are valid anymore, so I have to redo this.

Jason still comes back to life six months after his death, which in this case would mean he comes back to life in January. He's still almost 13 (12 & 11 months) in body, but he should already be 13 (13 & 5 months) chronologically.

He then spends one year in a coma, one year on the streets, and one year with the League. Assuming that's a clean twelve-month skip each time (unlikely but it's what we're all going to work with right now), the Jason that gets thrown in the Pit is chronologically 16 (& 5 months), physically almost 16, and mentally still almost 13.

His 18th birthday is right before War Games; he's 18 chronologically, 17 and 6 months physically, and 14 and 6 months mentally. This means that by UTRH, only a couple months after War Games, Jason is still 14 years old in his mind.