How it feels to love a woman in a shounen franchise

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How it feels to love a woman in a shounen franchise

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We need an alternative to doesthedogdie cause theyâve started fucking paywalling warnings that include timestamps for triggering moments.
Like what the fuck
I just checked and
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I recommend Unconsenting Media. Not as comprehensive as DoesTheDogDie, but if sexual assault is a trigger for you, itâs a good resource
rbing again real quick--i and other(s?) have noted in other rbs that this is almost never done. it's for very few properties, and it's only for timestamped warnings that are done in-house, not by users.
there are still timestamps available for warnings on those same triggers for those same properties. just bc there's a paywall on something doesn't mean other comments and timestamps can't be posted or read for free on that property or that trigger.
see here:
i don't have an account and haven't paid for anything on the site, so all of those comments are what i'm seeing for free.
i had to search and search to find anything that had paywalls, and had to resort to looking at The Substance, as referenced here. i've been using the site regularly since the op posted and have never organically encountered a paywall on anything, including on very popular properties.
i don't see any reason to stop using the site--everything is still available for free. they just have added another way for some ppl to choose to pay some $ (in addition to ads), since this is a completely free service, and no website is free to maintain.
as an example, someone with the money could pay to see the timestamps, and then leave a free comment with the same timestamps for others if they wanted to.
I've seen this post on my dash a few times now and I want to boost this specific addition. I've emailed the owner of the site to get clarification on this, and I was told the motivation behind this. He wanted to start paying some people to memorize all 200+ triggers on the site, sit down and watch popular movies/shows to thoroughly analyze whenever any trigger pops up, and note down timestamps and details of them. Ads unfortunately do not cover this (they probably only cover the site's base upkeep), so the subscription service is specifically to pay these people. Community comments have never been paywalled and are still accessible.
He thanked me for my feedback when I expressed confusion and concern about the paywalled comments being mixed in with the free comments, and has since updated the site to make them clearly distinct, along with a preview of what the paid comments look like:
He was very transparent about it all and very kind. He also said this was his mistake and is trying to clear it up. Please continue to use DoesTheDogDie.com, it is an excellent resource and there is nothing else like it!
unfortunately i dont think its queerbaiting if the creator is just so terminally heterosexual that they never remotely considered the same gender relationship their show is centered around could be read as romantic. it is deeply painful however.
Maybe accidental queer baiting? The way someone may not mean to say something rude, but it may come off rude, so it's rude. Frustrating either way.
Not being a dick, just a friendly clarification.
By definition you can't accidentally queerbait. Queerbaiting is specifically using a same sex pair from the show to market the show to queer audiences with no intention of ever following through on a romantic relationship.
There is officially licensed Destiel merch signed off on by Kripke. Teen Wolf had a commercial with the actors for Derek and Stiles draped over each other talking about being "on a ship." Both shows actively used scenes between them as marketing while actively mocking fans for wanting them together. Sherlock has multiple characters refer to Johnlock as a couple, including characters we're supposed to believe are never wrong about human behavior and pushed those scenes in marketing. Then they acted insulted when fans saw them as a couple.
That's queerbaiting.
Done on accident it would just be queer subtext. Done because they had no other choice due to censorship is queer coding.
The specific meaning of the word is really starting to get lost and it's a pretty important one to keep accurate. It describes a very specific phenomenon that was done repeatedly and maliciously for decades and is meant to examine that specifically.
Doing it on accident sucks, but it isn't a tactic of capitalism intentionally intended to suppress queer representation while making money from queer fans.
so women are supposed to grin and bear the books, the comics, the movies, the plays, the tv shows, the stories, the sci-fi, the translated ancient poems, the fucking millennia of men writing about their self inserts torturing women and it being declared as High Art by other men, weâre supposed to read it in our free time, study it in classrooms, include their styles in our own writing, accept their cultural influence as natural, watch it in the cinema, write about it, talk about it, accept it, aspire it, but men canât tolerate three seconds of female wish fulfilment of a woman snapping the wrist of a creep without feeling personally kicked in the balls.
This reminds me of something I observed in college while I was doing my honors thesis on women in modern horror films. I watched a LOT of horror during that time as part of my research, and sometimes that was done with my family around.
And my dad and brothers? Were deeply disturbed by the movie Jenniferâs Body. I was flabbergasted. Itâs not scary! Itâs not even that gory. But they were horrified by it. These men who grew up on 70s slashers were legitimately shook by 90 minutes of Megan Fox eating a few teenage boys, mostly off-screen.
Similarly, my all-male reading panel for my thesis? Were so disturbed by my synopsis of the film Teeth that they couldnât even talk about it. One of them said he couldnât look at his wife for a week after reading it.
Again, grown-ass men who study and teach media for a living. Who definitely watch and enjoy horror movies. One of whom was a huge Tarantino buff. We watched and read worse in his intro to mass media class! But one movie about a girl whose vag could bite was enough to haunt him.
Then of course you have things like the Gone Girl backlashâmen yelling that Amy Dunne is evil and women clamoring to assure everyone that they know she is not someone to emulateâthe backlash against Carol Danvers, and, more recently, the griping from MRAs against the upcoming film Hustlers, which is about strippers scamming their Wall Street clients.
My conclusion? Most menâat least most straight, cisgender men, who are both my sample population and most of the ones whining that Carol is a âvillainââare perfectly fine with, and desensitized to, media where men do violence to women (horror movies), or men do violence to men (horror and action movies). Theyâre even sort of fine when women do violence to women (âooooo cat fight!â).
But they get intensely uncomfortable when women are depicted doing any kind of violence to men, especially in films that tilt the balance of power to the other side of the m/f gender binary beyond a single moment or scene.
So woman as flesh-eating monster with men as her preferred cuisine? Woman who responds to unwanted sexual contact by biting it off? Woman who frames her cheating husband for murder? Woman whose response to harassmentâbehavior that many of the loudest whiners know is both creepy and reflective of their own thoughts/actionsâis to break something?
Too scary. Unacceptable. Disturbing. These men hate being presented with the idea, even in fiction, that their position of power is socially constructed, that it could easily be flipped the other way. It terrifies them.
In feeling that terror, they experience a tiny modicum of what living, existing, moving, being perceived as a woman in the world is like.
And they flinch every time.
Here have a newspaper comic from 1993
I really do think it comes down to desensitization and a lack of learned sympathy. Imo itâs why cishetperisex white abled majority men tend to react so badly when the protagonist of a game or movie or whatever is a woman. I think when society more or less caters to you via media and representation you never have to learn to sympathize with people who donât look like you, or at least not in the way marginalized people do. Black men and boys have to learn to see themselves in white ones, women in men, queer folks in straight, disabled in abled, we do not get catered to, so we learn to find ourselves in places we donât exist and we learn fast. It sucks, and it never feels 100% natural, but we learn.
And yes, we all are supposed to learn to see ourselves in others by default, thatâs an important part of being a person and also engaging with stories, I should be able to understand why my lesbian neighbor is upset that her amazon package got dumped on someone elseâs porch even though Iâm not a lesbian, and I feel like Clark Kent and I could talk about growing up in the middle of nowhere and find common ground even if Iâm not a white male alien superhero but like, itâs different when you HAVE to do it ALL the time JUST to engage in media and feel represented and seen. And thatâs what we do and we get really good at it because if we didnât weâd never enjoy anything.
Quick obligatory disclaimer that plenty of men are perfectly capable of learning to do this, as well as everyone else, and do it all the time, this is not a natural state of white manhood this is something chosen that can be discardedâbut your average white dude who grew up with all the media around him being about him just straight up does not have years of hard training in âseeing myself in the otherâ because he doesnât have to. He doesnât have to try to find himself, heâs Luke Skywalker, John Wick, Superman, heâs always seeing a reflection of himself.
So what happens when suddenly heâs looking in a mirror and sees someone else? He gets uncomfortable, angry, confused. Which at itâs core is understandable, this is a skill that you have to learn and itâs normal for your brain to respond with discomfort or anger when you donât know how to do something, but that doesnât mean itâs okay to let it fester into resentment and bigotry and hateâŠ.which is what these dudes do. He canât relate to this person, he doesnât know how to look for things that are similar like where they grew up or shared interests, things that we look to when connecting with a character to relate to them enough to be invested in their story. And some are so bad at dealing with that discomfort they lose it at the thought of having to think that hard about relating to a story, get pissed that theyâre being asked to consider that humans exist who arenât like them and who also deserve to be in the spotlight sometimes, but I think at the core itâs insecurity born of a lack of a skill our society necessitates everyone but these men learn. They donât know how to do this and they have no idea how to handle that.
Thatâs similar to the logic of the horror stuff, women and minorities spend so long learning to like horror despite us being the fucking bad guys and victims in everything, but I remember I thought of this originally after people got mad at the Charlieâs Angels remake having the biggest male character turn out to be a villain. These guys werenât just mad that there wasnât more men, they were mad that they were specifically being painted as the bad guy, and I was likeâŠconfused? At first, because like yeah dude that doesnât actually say much about you as a person, sometimes the bad guy looks like youâŠ.and then I was like oh. Oh. The bad guy never looks like you, does he? And you donât know what to do now that youâre looking at a character youâre supposed to hate and seeing yourself.
Because the other thing we as minorities have to learn to do is love the bad guys because WEâRE the bad guys. The torn queer kid who wants to be Aladdin but sees so many of his mannerisms in Jafar and has to justâŠdeal with that. Itâs like horror for me, I love horror, but Iâm disabled and mentally ill. I am almost always the bad guy in horror. The face in the mirror is my own, and I like horror, so I and everyone else in the same place learns a delicate act of like, sympathizing and seeing yourself in the characters but also not and trying to root for the good guys who arenât like you or just not doing that and rooting for the bad guys the whole time, like Iâm not describing it well, but itâs hard to articulate despite being something again, almost all of us have to go through at some point.
And god I remember Ghostbusters 2016 having the bimbo be a himbo instead, dudes were SO fucking uncomfortable and I was just laughing because yeah wow thatâŠ.that sure is just how some men write women!! And they do it all the time, and itâs really fucking stupid and sexist and weird especially seeing it come from a male character, but like dude fr me @ these men do you seriously have absolutely 0 tolerance for a depiction of a person who looks like you in a story being negative??? You literally never learned how to deal with that???
But they didnât. They never had to. Because even when the bad guy looks like them there is always a good guy who does too. Charlieâs Angels and Jeniferâs Body and Ghostbusters make them uncomfortable and angry because the bad guys look like them and the good guys donât. They have no tolerance for that discomfort, they are not desensitized to their only representation being the villain or the victim or the idiot, and they also seemingly have no idea how to not internalize the idea that the bad guy looking like you doesnât mean the story is saying you are the bad guy.
I mean they do to the rest of us but for majority white men it doesnât because:
I mean fuck half the horror movies out there explicitly just say âall mentally ill people are crazy dangerous murderers you should never trustâ and I learned to live with that somehow while Charlieâs Angels just says âthis one particular dude sucksâ and itâs the end of the goddamn world to every white dude who suddenly forgets other people arenât them. Almost funny if it wasnât so infuriatingly immature and deeply bigoted.
It plays out in smaller ways, white people failing to see themselves in folks of color, skinny people refusing to humanize fat ones, hell it even plays out in adults refusing to attempt to relate to children, every axis has a side that is not asked to see themselves in the other as often and it leads to this disconnect and discomfort and anger and lashing out when you actually do get asked to do it. To learn to like a story even if the bad guy is wearing your face, to relate to a hero you know has nothing in common with you, seeing yourself in the other is not something asked of everyone, and not being able to do it messes you up.
I think thatâs why itâs so uncomfortable for men to see themselves as the victims of women or as the bad guys, they never have to learn to be okay with being treated like shit by a narrative, or at LEAST just not being the main character, and they hate that.
But theyâre just experiencing what the rest of us have been for all of human fucking history and weâre perhaps a bit too exhausted by it to humor it for long and just gotta give a firm
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Spent too long looking for a video to watch and finally found one and my headphones died sigh
Guess I'll lay in bed