#frozenverse

Pre-Frozen 1 :

Dangerous Secrets (chapters up to Frozen 2 prologue mention)

Elsa's Icy Rescue

Disney Storied Places (In the Beginnings part)

Anna and the King

Anna Finds a Friend

Disney Storied Places (Growing Up part)

The Fixer Upper

A Frozen Heart (chapters up to Frozen beginning)

Frozen Complete Story/Frozen : Elsa and Anna's Saga (first few pages)

Dangerous Secrets (final chapters)

During Frozen 1 :

Frozen (of course)

Once Upon a Snowman

A Frozen Heart (most chapters up to epilogue)

Fantasy Springs/Frozen Kingdom lore

Post Frozen 1 :

Elsa and Anna series

A Frozen Heart (epilogue)

Elsa and the Frost Monster

A Frozen Heart (epilogue)

Dark Horse comics

Joe Books comics

Frozen magazines comics (up to 2020 and after 2024, partially)

Olaf's Frozen Adventure

Frozen Fever

World of Frozen/Summer Snow Day lore

Arendelle Ice Calamity

Winter Festival

During Frozen 2 :

Frozen 2

Novelizations

Myth A Frozen Tale (partially)

Post Frozen 2 :

French Books

Polar Nights : Cast Into Darkness

The Next Right Things

Midsummer Song and Dance

Engaging Anna and Kristoff + Anna and Kristoff engagement party show

Disney California Adventure Hans lore (probably)

Myth A Frozen Tale (probably)

AU'S :

OUAT Season 4 (episodes 1-11)

Disney Speedstorm

Disney Magic Kingdoms (post Frozen 1 - 2016-2018, post Frozen 2 - 2019-2020)

Taking a closer look at a lesser-known kingdom from the Frozen franchise. COMING SOON! 🫡

I'm actually really curious about this. Clearly it wasn't WDAS' plan to make a Frozen 3 AND 4 at once in the beginning. It's during the writing process that they went "Oh, we'll make a 4th movie".

I wonder what it means. Did they have an idea for a final, definitive ending for the saga and thought "Wait, we'll need more than a hour and a half to get to that"? Did they plan a huge plot for Frozen 3, and with time through the screenplay writing they realized they could never make it fit in one movie and will do a sort of "Frozen Final Chapter - Part One and Part Two"? Will Frozen 3 AND 4 be marketed in one and only trailer, with epic, dramatic editing, with 'GET READY' 'FOR THE FINAL CHAPTER OF THE STORY' in big capital letters titles?

The image is from the comic “Disney Storied Placed” which has some one-shots of Disney movies, but this part is so funny to me.

This specific part shows how Anna, Elsa, Kristoff and Hans' childhood was. With the sisters and Kristoff, he shows only good times, even when the fateful day arrives or the 13 years of isolation are just happy, fun moments. It's a funny comic focused on kids after all.

But you know the part where I laugh? The image of Hans's family.

If you're not aware of what's happening in the Frozenverse I'll tell you something: Hans is the “Frozen” character Disney cares least about. His only appearance that wasn't an F1 retelling or an easter egg (I include "Once Upon a Time") was this one in "Frozen Fever":

“But Hans is a villain, obviously he wouldn't be exploited as much” you might say, but that's where you're very wrong. Duke Weselton and his guards Francis and Erik are very recurring in the Frozenverse comics, and I won't even comment on the other Disney villains that even those who died in their movies always appear. Seriously Hans is the Disney villain that the company often seems to want to pretend never existed.

Talking about it always reminds me of Santino Fontana's interview talking about a possible appearance by Hans in F2. But in all these nearly 10 years that F1 has been released, this literally seems to be the last thing they thought of for F2, especially Jennifer Lee who hates Hans as much as I hate the prince.

If you think it's hard for Elsa to be portrayed openly by Disney as a lesbian, I think it's 10x harder for Hans to return in a product that isn't an F1 reimagining. In fact, even in books I see this as an unlikely possibility because after all, what would be the reason for a return? His arc with Anna was completed in F1 and returning the character would really have no reason other than to fulfill an item a list.

So the fun of this image is just that. And let's face it, the way they show that Hans had a difficult childhood in this comic is quite comical. Seeing this and then reading “Frozen Heart” and “Conceal, Don't Feel” is pretty funny.

Me:

Huevember Day 6 Sketch

I feel the ending would have been better if Arendelle had been washed away. It breaks too many story rules to let Arendelle stand and have Elsa live. Even stories have rules and laws to obey before otherwise they feel ‘odd’, and especially myths which tend to follow the same formula. Not every story follows the exact same formula and sometimes it can be played around with, but it gets to a point where a payoff or trade must be made for the story to feel right again. Think of it of equivalent exchange. (Though thank goodness Elsa as a character following the set-up of a myth has a sister who is following the fairy-tale path, because it's handy to have someone around to break curses and enchantments!) 

I pretty much agree with the Flicks and the City interpretation about how this would look: the breaking of the dam leads to Elsa unfreezing still but she doesn’t awaken in time to get to Arendelle. I know stories can get away with some artistic licence, but it’s pretty far fetched that Elsa could get back to Arendelle in time, especially as she’s much further north than the dam. 

At the end of the day Disney have decided to keep this a kid's/family story so I have no gripes that everyone got out of Arendelle unharmed and would be okay that no one would have been killed. However, Arendelle being washed away is a great metaphor for Arendelle to rebuild a better society on new foundations. It doesn't have to mean erasing the past completely, but it allows for something new to built that was better and stronger than before. 

(And I'm just going to mention all the extreme weather events we're having all over the world. Frozen II has already given families a good way to talk about certain subjects, so why not throw in another one? Even if rising sea levels/flooding/another extreme weather event doesn’t affect a family or child directly, it’s a way to explain it to children or give an opportunity for families to discuss it if they want. Especially if they see it on the news or have a friend/classmate who is affected.)

I'm also incredibly sad that the memory scene above did not make it to the final version of the film. It parallels so nicely with Anna's belief in Elsa and gives us a deeper insight into why Iduna and Agnarr made the decision they did. Yeah, what they did was a little bit like when teachers make a well-behaved student next to one who is badly misbehaving (which just ends up punishing a student who didn't deserve the punishment), but they loved their daughters and were just trying to do what they thought was the right thing. It also clarifies that each sister has a place which is slightly better for them as it will help them to grow and develop more than in the roles they were in before.