#agnarr

So often I see people say Anna's just a "boring, bland, unimaginative copy of past Disney characters". Something I have literally never agreed with, but even if I'm being generous there will always be one thing literally NONE of the characters Anna's constantly compared to don't have, and that's being a glass child. Which is a major difference that matters A LOT to me.

And the fact barely anyone even knows what that is, or don't care about the traumas a childhood like this causes, says enough about how important Anna's existence as a character is (and why I'm so angry F2 never properly delved into this, despite a lot of deleted scenes/songs hinted at the fact they would've at some point).

Here's the definition for people who genuinely don't know and wanna learn instead of choosing to remain ignorant; "A child who feels "invisible" to their parents due to having a sibling with a serious health condition or disability who occupies a disproportionate amount of their parents' attention."

Friendly reminder that Anna AND Elsa are BOTH unique representation that deserves to be shown in (kids) media more, and just because they suffered different forms of neglect from the same parents, doesn't mean one is more valid or invalid than the other.

"Get behind me"

Before becoming a Frozen nerd, I often wondered how Elsa was an infant. We know about her life as a toddler before and after the accident, but how was she as a wee baby? How did Agnarr and Iduna react to finding out about their first-born being blessed with such a power over ice and snow? Luckily, these two pieces of media were already ahead of me!

Here is baby Elsa making snow in her cradle as Agnarr and Iduna reassure each other 🥹

(Frozen (Graphic Novel Retelling), adapted by Cecil Castellucci, with art by Paola Antista)

And of course, we also see baby Elsa in Chapter 42 of Dangerous Secrets in Iduna's POV, written by Mari Mancusi.

I love the way this scene was written and the way Iduna's and Agnarr's reactions were handled. It was exactly the way we would've expected it, knowing them as characters! 👏

I highly doubt it, but I wish we could get a glimpse of Anna and Elsa as infants in the upcoming sequels. We've already seen the sisters in almost all the stages of their lives, so they might as well add their baby phases into the mix while they're still making movies! 😅

Hi Whitewolf3710,

Thank you for your ask! Such an interesting question!

Well I love lore based around Arendelle's history and backstory. In fact that's what I want Frozen 3 to explore in some way. In Frozen 1 we got a very brief snippet of a Troll taking some kind of magic out of a viking and that book it was from was picked from the Arendelle Libary by Agnarr. It seems the Trolls have a ancestral connection or a relationship with Arendelle during those times.

Runeard being the first king I don't want to believe. Anything outside of the movies and shorts is not strictly canon unless expressed otherwise in the movies. I mean, I just feel he failed miserably as the first king to Arendelle. But I don't think he is. I think, especially with the new royal family member rumoured for F3, the royal bloodline started earlier. And like you said it doesn't make sense considering Frozen 1 but if Frozen 3 is going deep into that norse mythology lore then it's likely that Runeard being the first to throne Arendelle is not true. So basically, if it's not implied in Frozen 2 (I need to rewatch it soon!) then I would say don't consider that canon.

Like it would be so cool for Frozen 3 to touch on the viking roots use this as an excuse to leave more about Arendelle and the trolls. Were the Trolls always good? Where do their powers come from? Like the original fairytale, the Snow Queen, did the trolls come from the sky or land above? That would make sense as to why we see a castle on a cloud. We could possibly see more connections to the Snow Queen in Frozen 3, if that's the case. Omg wait! What if Ahtohallan was a castle cloud but fell to earth and became a glacier - a river of memories. I know that's a bit of a stretch but it's fun to think of. A theory post about the snow queen ties with Frozen 3 is in that works.

As far as Runeard being the first Royal blood of Arendelle's, I wouldn't believe it unless confirmed in strict canon like shorts, movies maybe even books. We'll have to wait and see Frozen 3 for a lot more information.