Mike thinks Will is dead here, the shots follow one another, sharing the Red Cross:
(also there’s a rose like on the Creels’ door)
something about December ‘84 and the world flipping upside down on Christmas…
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Mike thinks Will is dead here, the shots follow one another, sharing the Red Cross:
(also there’s a rose like on the Creels’ door)
something about December ‘84 and the world flipping upside down on Christmas…

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Will absolutely would have known how to have safe sex by 1989. Suggesting he was on a path to AIDS because he met his date at a bar is insane. Look up Ryan White. He's the reason that the Duffer Brothers probably never thought of AIDS as a gay disease. I am older than them and I grew up knowing anyone could get AIDS and I knew that you needed to use condoms and water-based lubricants for safe sex before I knew how sex actually worked. There is no reason to imagine Will being reckless with his health and safety. If the Duffers were thinking of AIDS at all, they wouldn't be imagining a teenager in the late 80s and early 90s not being aware of how to be safe.
Hey, anon! I knew someone was going to go on anon to minimize what I said here.
I'm also An Old and still stand by the fact that Will was in an incredibly precarious position as a newly out young gay man fleeing his small town.
I notice you ignored all of that paragraph. Maybe reread?
Also even if he was informed about staying safe, that doesn't mean the threat goes away. This was the days before PrEP, and condoms can break. There were also people who trusted that their partner was monogamous, stopped using condoms, and then their cheating partner gave it to them.
Alternatively, if you've never had something slipped in your drink in a bar and been SA'd while under the influence, I'm happy for you, but feel the need to remind you that there are times when it's not so easy to ask someone to wear a condom and use water-based lubricants. All it takes is one time. Without a support network, he might not even know what dangers to look out for.
I think the queer/AIDS allegory paragraph may have also slid past your notice. I do not think the Duffers never considered the history of the disease affecting the queer community first before it spread into the rest of the world.
Also, I'm so sorry that you let all the stories of IRL queer teens and young men dying from AIDS pass you by 😢 it absolutely did happen, even if it makes you feel cozy to imagine that no kids got sick post 1988. There are plenty of testimonials that exist, waiting for you to read them.
One of my biggest frustrations and reasons I can't accept the ending is that AIDS looms so heavily over Stranger Things, and yet there's been no payoff.
In fact, it makes the epilogue bar scene with Will very disquieting to me, since it's almost implied that's exactly where he's headed.
More under the cut, since it will get lengthy:
Rovickie, AIDs, Allan Turing and ST doc stress the ending’s fakeness
So I keep thinking how unneeded was side-lining of rovickie in the epilogue x and this scene at least
Given that the DB’s father was working in the institute supporting AIDS research and treatment, you can’t just having been raised in the family with such values and then, having an opportunity to convey the message in in your biggest show on earth, queerbait for no reason. You still could do that, having rovickie in the background, but actually “erasing” itself attracts attention to this unneededness queerbait wise. It was unneeded unless you were planning to make a comment about queer rep in general and you wanted to stress the absence of queerness in your show’s so called ending. It can’t be over for nothing bc it has reasons not to be there, and if byler could be read just as a bait leading to nowhere (bc it attracted a lot of attention the way it was built), the ship that wasn’t that serious had no other purpose to be temporarily erased to — later prove the point.
(It would be even weird to make this commentary having queer rep in the ending, contradicting the idea itself, that’s what I’m saying. Rovickiegate? lmao)
Here’s a screenshot on the matter from this post of @thatgirlalt :
You don’t speak about these topics accidentally. Same as you don’t queer code your main character this hard just to queerbait.
I can assume tho that you can queer code more secondary characters like Billy or like Murray to enrich your story’s symbolism but not to make them actually openly queer, as it doesn’t have the same effect as byler, no one’s being attracted (or mb almost no one, okay 😅) to the show bc of 1,5 scenes Billy and Steve had or bc Murray called Mr Clarke snookums. Although Murray x Clarke parallel Allan Turing (read more in this post of @slytherflowerao3) which enriches deepness of the show for those who care, not making it a blatant queerbait.
Honestly (and unfortunately), for queerbaiting you don’t need so much effort at all.
And after the show is for real finally over, I bet they will want to speak more about their values, being put in there, openly, as so far they’ve never really done that, even in their doc… especially in the doc containing no info on the story whatsoever.