#lwg

why do we discuss the fact Mike calls his gf superMAN, but do not discuss that he associates himself with a girl? meaning that he does accentuate twice on the aspect of dating a guy:

1) in his imagination (forget that it’s El for a sec, he might even not speak fr about her in this scene) he has a picture of a superMAN

2) and then he goes “at least if another person dated such a GUY, this person had a cool job”

don’t focus on Lois Lane being a girl, focus on her being in a relationship with a guy

yes, it’s logical to come up with LL after that reference, but the ref is done for a reason, nah?

Just remembered I have free will and that I can draw Lan Wangi hooking up with Yiling Laozu, which is objectively WWX's hottest look. Don't deny it, I know that, you know, Lan Zhan knows, everyone knows.

This is from the netflixhouse Instagram story. The blue and yellow? Okay. And the stickers are only WSQK ones and from the show Wednesday. Note that one is an axe (reminds me of joyce) which...

"The wait has been torture"

I mean. Yeah. The wait sure has been.

(Forgot to mention but they also mentioned it in this tweet so its not just me lol)

Now. Isn't the 15th of July (the ST anniversary) on a Wednesday? I dont know, it won't leave my head especially after I saw that post on twitter, so I thought I'd share even if i like to just silently observe lol

I saw 85 on Saturday at 12 and these are the notes I wrote down. I tried to fill in what I felt might add context but I hesitate adding too much; I have a very active imagination and I can easily get carried away. The second episode I pretty much tried to just watch so there are less notes there, sorry for that but writing in the dark is not a skill i possess. I went into this with the thought that it would be horrible non cannon rage bait and I was pleasantly surprised at how much we all enjoyed ourselves (I went with my partner and my best friend who is a fellow cg believer). These notes were just things that stuck out to me as I tried to ride the line of informant and enjoyment. The show will be out soon and I know we'll all be combing it scene by scene because there is just that much to see in this.

Trailers (the tickets said there would be no trailers so this was a surprise):

The Mandalorian and Grogru

Jinsei

Super Girl

Animal Farm

Heman

Slime movie

Mortal Kombat 2- which is wild if the theme is kids entertainment

Mike had no reason to react so strongly to finding out El needs him. He already knows that! They fought about it. Broke up. And he is eaten with the guilt of it.

When Mike is talking about what if SuperMAN doesn't need him anymore, he is talking about Will. Will, who didn't reach out after he left Mike in Hawkins. ("This past year.. has been weird." "It's been a year, Mike!" -No, boys. It was half a year).

Neither of them are able to say how they really feel directly because what if, what if the other doesn't like the truth?

When Will bares his heart with the painting, Mike goes from delighted to gulping, shuddered breath, lip glancing. He spends most of the reveal looking overwhelmed or like he's in a dreamy love haze. The only exception being when Will says the painting is from El! And then it's quickly so obvious to Mike that it isn't.

"EVEN EL. Especially El.."

Holy shit. Will was just handing him everything with that line. What Mike has to hear is: I painted this for you. You're The Heart. Without you I know we would all fall apart.

Hastily adding that "even El, especially El", would fall apart too, doesn't change that Will just directly told Mike that this is how he views him.

It makes it clear that 'The Heart' theme is primarily driven by Will, and Will just tacks El on at the end of it.... in the painting she commissioned, that she isn't in herself, in a game we never see her play, with a heart right there on his shield that has clearly never been discussed, and El never seemed at all interested in finally giving him his commissioned gift despite Will clearly carrying the painting around..

Mike is not brain-dead.

Mike's emotional reaction in the van is to Will. Just Will.

His painting. His feelings. And he thinks that this is a brave as Will can show himself to be right now. But it says everything, doesn't it?

The ball is in Mike's court. He is pretty sure *without being certain*, that he has read the situation correctly.

So when they find El, Mike looks between them like this triangle must be resolved. But there is never any time.

And then El is in trouble, and she needs him. And Will pushes him towards confessing his love to her. He has a sudden shock of being wrong. Visibly hurt, but with no time to process hope being ripped away from him while El is dying.

He purses his lips together and tries for El anyway, knowing the love for her isn't real. Not in the way she needs it to be. So instead, he bundles up his feelings for Will, and gives these to El:

"El? (Will), I don't know if you can hear this, but... but if you can, I want you to know I'm here, okay? I'm right here. And... I love you. El (Will), do you hear me?

I love you. (But it sounds insincere because it's directed to the wrong person)

I'm sorry I don't say it (show it) more. I... It's not because I'm scared of you (Will). I'm not. I've never felt that way. Never. (Even when you were possessed. Even though you STILL have a link to Vecna). But I am scared (terrified) that one day you'll realize you don't need me anymore. (Like when you moved away from me and didn't even call. What will you do when you know about this thing I am hiding?)

And I thought if I said how I felt (I'm in love with you, Will), it would somehow make that day HURT more.. But the truth is, El (Will), I don't know how to live without you. (It's Hawkin's. It's not the same without you. *I still haven't told you I jumped off the quarry*)

I feel like my life started that day we found you in the woods. (On the swing set. And I asked. I asked if you wanted to be my friend. It was the best thing I've ever done.)

You were wearing that yellow Benny's Burgers T-shirt. And it was so big, it almost swallowed you whole. *Rewritten to frame El. And it's the only thing she responds well to, because her oversized shirt was the only truth.*

And I knew right then and there, in that moment, that I loved you. (He was drawn to, and adored Will, immediately).

And I've loved you every day since. I love you on your good days. I love you on your bad days. I love you with your powers, I love you without your powers. (I loved you before the shadow monster, and after whatever that did to you. The trauma. The possession... The connection that never quite leaves you). I love you for exactly who you are.

You're my superhero. (TF 85: Can I tell you a secret? Will is bravest person I know). And... I can't lose you. Okay? Do you hear me? I can't lose you. You can do anything. You can fly. You can move mountains. I believe that. I really do." ("In real life your powers are innate.")

And this part is just for El-

"But right now, you just have to fight. Okay? El. Do you hear me? You need to fight! You have to fight. Fight! FIGHT!"

Poor El is constantly being used to redirect or hold Mike and Will's (terrified) feelings for each other.

- both trolls and demos hunt with their nose(?) scent(?) vibes(?) or demos have eyes and we cant see but i swear ive seen a demo making a sniffing motion

- demos are famously hard to kill and have great regeneration

- bite and claw are literally a demos favourite activity

- as well as devouring everything ig except when theyre being dramatic and aura farming (the demo who snatched will)

- weakness to acid and fire? true! they used a ton of that in the finales of like every season besides 3 because theres no demos in that one but like they still kinda do because they use fireworks on the meat flayer

- every season ends with setting the monsters on fire lol which is a trolls weakness

- not in the pic but trolls are typically 9ft tall

- they live in the underdark. guess who also lives in the underdark (sussy realm that the upside down is basically a copy of) guess. guess who you wont.

- the answer is mind flayers

okay also it gets better lemme show some comments

this one is by RickAJr which is the 2nd edition description for trolls

besides the hair, its bang on. 3 toes and all. chicken feet, if you will (thanks @power-kinesis <3)

theres also a flashback scene in season 1 where hopper is chasing sarah and says this:

so hopper is a troll/demogorgon or pretends to be one?

heres the first edition pic for demogorgons:

I will be calling the stranger things ones "demos" in contrast to dnd demogorgons

- demos dont use special attacks as far as we know

- demos arent shown with super intelligence

- they cant hypnotize people

- do demos cause insanity???

- demos dont have a forked tail or tentacles if anything vecna is more of a demogorgon in that way

anyways

tldr the same thing as the title: demogorgons arent demogorgons theyre trolls

thank you mike for completely misnaming them because demogorgon sounds infinitely cooler than trolls. can you imagine: "it was a 7. the troll. it got me"

maybe the real demogorgon was the mike along the way...

tagging some people who may find this interesting!! (let me know if you want to be tagged/want to not be tagged 🙏🙏💚)

@fixthehyper @autoasta @whispering-goat @thebestofmyrmidons @itswhatyougive @gritstartar @sherlockbyers @going-south-within-the-brain @avbyler @armencias @sterlingarcher23 @anotherjlynn @o11yradio @warmglowhc @olgoki @upsidedownlurker @nightnut @walkablepurse50 @ten-universe