#stranger things analysis

meant to make this post months ago and forgot. i really think the whole 4th of july fair is to do with birthdaygate and what really happened on will's birthday, this just confirms it to me even more

bonus parenthood weirdness

though this might also suggest something of will's (or el's) parenthood and i'm not sure what to make of it. i made a post a while ago about how all the movies on the byers tv stand suggest something for the members of the family. woman in red though threw me because it's a movie about infidelity

and at the fair larry stands between a woman in white (who looks like she's wearing a wedding dress) and a woman in red with the same sleeves who he gives a teddy bear (a stand in for the byers children and this one looks just like will's bear that mike hands el at the end of the season). also confusing is that i think these girls are meant to be teenagers? from the jr miss hawkins sash. lonnie does seem to keep dating teenagers (gross)

ironically the guy who tries to cheat in the woman in red is also called teddy

is this why will is the only one without a j name? is this how terry became pregnant? i sort of want neither to be true really. maybe lonnie was cheating and that stirred up some drama in the past but then why is the girl holding will in bear form? did it come to a head on will's birthday?

also two sides of the wsqk sync end with songs about hammers. the songs are 'hammer to fall' by queen and 'sledgehammer' by peter gabriel. in the former the hammer is death and potentially a reference to the cold war (hammer and sickle). in the latter the hammer is his dick and the music video opens on sperm. so. little bit of a dichotomy there.

Upon first meeting, he is enamoured almost by her powers and finds himself protecting her against the other two boys.

We also witness multiple incidents with Troy- El naming herself as a monster but Mike is quick to tell her that she is otherwise and comfort her.

But as we see their progression, his dynamic towards her powers becomes complex- morally grey at the mention of Will. (Key Fact: Mike wanted to turn her in until the mention of Will).

Will is verbally introduced to her as a character and we see what the boys think of her. (Dustin calls her a wizard and Luacs comments that she has superpowers but Mike seems to downplay this and why?)

Throughout season three, he struggles with allowing her to overcome independence within her powers which lead to an argument and them breaking up. (+Hopper and him lying to her). He admits that this was out of jealousy and insecurities but a similar thing happens amongst them the following season.

They both lie to each other following the season three finale as they are embarrassed and unable to confide in each other.

Jane is a persona almost but it the 'normal' girl and the one who did not grow up in a lab with a man to call papa. She uses her fists and something about this is unsettling to Mike where he has to make point disregarded her discomfort.

He claims to love her for exactly as she is but almost immediately contradicts himself by calling her his own superhero- which we have already established she does not want to be.

I have ran out of images but this is also a running topic in s5.

He tells her to 'recharge' ans try again when once again discussing Will and his health. Once at the cabin, she has to tell him that this is not 'like one of his campaigns' and he does not 'get to write the story' but he ignores this.

I was reading Percy Jackson and The Titan's Curse, when they were talking about the Lotus Hotel and Casino I thought of something.

Lotus Flowers -> Upsidedown Spores (?)

Not exactly lotus flowers, but they are spore-y flowers!

For anyone who is confused, I am talking about the lotus flowers from Greek mythology, here’s what Wikipedia says:

The lotus fruits and flowers were the primary food of the island and were a narcotic, causing the inhabitants to sleep in peaceful apathy. After they ate the lotus, they would forget their home and loved ones and long only to stay with their fellow lotus-eaters. Those who ate the plant never cared to report or return.

You can maybe see where I'm going with this...

In Percy Jackson, the Lotus Hotel and Casino is a building in Las Vegas. The Percy Jackson Wiki tells us more:

The Lotus Hotel and Casino was created by the Lotus Eaters with the intention that anyone entering would never want to leave. The hotel lures kids inside with addictive games, food (in the case of the movie), and other activities, combined with the unlimited money on plastic cards (in the case of the comic book).

Guests seem to never age because time is severely dilated, elapsing at a much slower rate than it passes in the outside world. Known victims of the hotel include Darrin, Nico and Bianca di Angelo, as well as Percy Jackson, Annabeth Chase, and Grover Underwood (for a short period of time). In the movie, the cause of guests staying is getting addicted to eating "Lotus Flowers", while in the original book, they stay there because of the addictive games. In the show, they stay because the air is pumped with lotus blossoms.

So I'm thinking...

Lotus Hotel and Casino -> Camazotz (?)

So, my theory is that the Hawkins residents breathe in the Upsidedown particles, and get put in a trance/sleep (?) and then enter Camazotz. Everything is so perfect, season five shows us that! There are no big risks, nobody gets hurt, Vecna is dead, El dies but it's okay cause everyone moves on happily. How?

The spores mess with their memories, just like the lotuses, making it easier for them to move on from El, or for Will to get over Mike so quickly. Anything out of place or suspicious flys over their heads because the spores (lotus flowers) make them want to stay and forget about their past. Milkshakes at Melvads? Who cares! It's so peaceful, why would they want anything to change?

Obviously, I think Henry or the Mind Flayer are messing around with it too. But the spores have an important role to play in it!

WAKE UP HAWKINS!!!

BONUS! Lotus flower looking lights in the Creel House:

In this post I will refer to the Upsidedown as UD and the Underworld as UW!

Introduction

This year, I have being reading a lot of Greek mythology for school, and have been consuming a lot of Percy Jackson content. It made me notice a few similarities between ST and Greek myths, digging deeper I found more connections.

The Underworld and the Upsidedown

The Upsidedown and the Underworld have more in common than just both their names starting with The U...

The Upsidedown description:

"The Upside Down" was the main name used to describe a mysterious extra-dimensional realm that connected two dimensions: the human world and "the Abyss", the home dimension of the Mind Flayer.

The Underworld description:

In Greek mythology, the underworld or Hades is a distinct realm (one of the three realms that make up the cosmos) where an individual goes after death.

The UD and UW are both realms. Hell-like, a faded, more tragic copy/version of the world filled with monsters and misery. A bad place.

Something that really shocked me is that the UD and UW are both frozen in time! In ST4 we find the UD is stuck on November 6th 1983, and time in the UW has been described as "stagnant".

Hades fought against the titans alongside his brothers. Once they won, the brothers drew lots, and Hades became ruler of the UW. Which reminds me of Henry/001 who was sent to the UD by El and he sort of became the ruler of it.

The name Henry even means “ruler of the home” or “lord of the household”.

Hades has a three headed dog named Cerberus, who guards the gates (yes, you heard me, gates), to the UW. Which reminded me of something we were expecting to see in ST5...

Rivers, Lakes, Eddie and Charon

There is a river called the Styx that separates the land of the living from the UW. You have to cross it to get to the gate of the UW. In Hawkins there is Lover's Lake which you have to swim through to get to the one UD gate. With all the theories around the lake it grabbed my attention.

Eddie Munson -> Charon

Please go read @junos-orbit’s wonderful analysis/theory (link)! It’s really good!

Conclusion

Of course, you idiot. - Supergirl was born in/on Argo City (depending: before the destruction of Krypton or after)

Designation: Argo 139-65 ; Argo: 1,18,7,15=41

41+139+65=245 ; 2+4+5=11 / only digits: 29.

(picture of "Jason and the Talking Oak" by Maxfield Parrish ; a book about the solar system on the table)

Holly's compass

Original Argo post - The greatest ship of all time

Unicorns and horses/ships such as the Phoenician trading ships

"The Argo": total sum 74 (atomic number of silver backwards) digit sum 38 (Max:13 1 24 ts 38, ds 11)

Because of Max's space themed binder.

Or her bike a Mongoose

And the connection with Sara(h)

And just like Christopher Reeve's Superman, Milly Alcock's Supergirl, though a dog person, rescues cats. From the sewer? Okay, shitbird. That's definitely my favorite coincidence of today.

Why are we treating the objectively more dogshit seasons that across the entire board had sloppier, more inconsistent, juvenile and poor writing and became a blatant capitalistic cash grab as the holy grail of characterisation and the only things that can be taken into consideration ever for any conversation about the show and its characters? Why are we not focusing on the characterisation given in the two seasons that provide the most in-depth, consistent, well written characters and that as a whole were genuinely good and had a lot substance to them.. or at the very least allowing people with brains to focus more on those seasons, rather than immediately dismissing people who focus on them and saying “but what about season 3-5! That doesn’t count because it was before season 3-5!” 😭 Like this fandom is just fucking dumb. This is genuinely the dumbest way I’ve ever seen any fandom view and analyse media. Just completely nonsensical, can we make a separate fandom for people who have comprehension skills above that of a 10 year old and have more than 5 brain cells?

ESPECIALLY S5. On top of it being universally regarded as abysmal dogshit and literally being slandered to this day and having hours long documentaries made on how shit it was and how it did everything wrong, there is straight up evidence that it was written by AI rather than actual humans at times??? And I’m???? Expected to take this season seriously??? And actually give a single fuck about how it characterised anyone or wrote anything??? I’m fucking sorry am I the only one not high on crack cocaine here wtf are we doing. We should not be treating that shit as canon or trying to have any serious deep discussions about it because there is next to nothing of substance or worth analysing in it 😭😭 it’s the equivalent of taking Tales From 85 as serious canon to me, but even TO85 was actually better than Season 5 (and honestly on the same level as or better than Season 3 and the Russia and Cali plots of Season 4….)

And I really wish Season 1-2 were their own seperate thing in general because when I say I’m a Stranger Things fan that’s literally all I mean. I only watched 3-5 because I was already attached to the show and its characters from Season 1-2, if those 3 seasons were their own separate thing I would’ve never been a fan of this show and I overall simply do not like them even if there’s a select few redeeming parts. And I actually think that’s the reality for a lot of people and yet they don’t realise it