#achilian

Monogamy/monoamory: aspiring to be or being in a relationship with another individual, typically associated with being partnered and fidelitous singularly to that individual.

Monogamous Vincian (QLM/MLQ)/Achillean (MLM) Flag

Vincian/achilean: a man-loving miaspec person or mascic queer folk; umbrella term for gayLm (gay for men/min), mingender/male pluralians (mspec), MDM/MSM (men who date/sex men) on the anattractional spectrum (aspec), gae/gai nlm (toric gæ/QAI nblm) along other adjacent communities; inclusive of torians and other toradonic folks who wish to be included.

Monogamous Sapphic Pride Flag

Sapphic: queer loving women (QLW)/woman loving queeries (WLQ); umbrella term for lesbians, fingender/fiaspec pluralians, WSW/WDW (women who sex/date women) who are are aspec (nullarians/aloeians/athenians/absolnians/nullic nullians), trixians (gai trixic/gae nlw/QAI nblf)/SGA/SSA primlunic folk, and other adjacent groups and members of the community that wish to be included.

Duaric Monogamy Pride Flag

Duaric: woman-loving men or man-loving women; umbrella term for pluralians experiencing different/other-gender attraction and monospec hetero people. Inclusive of varioriented, aspec, and aptobinaryn't folx.

Enbian Monogamy Flag

Enbian: nonbinary-loving nonbinary (NLN/NBLNB) person. Inclusive of cenelians, celarsians, and amplusic/ultric cypric people.

Diamoric/Mestric Monogamy Pride Flag

So first, mspec lesbian/achillian simply refers to someone who is both mspec(bi, pan, omni, etc) and also a lesbian/achillian. It's not a new identity by any means, it's just a sort of new label for a group of people who have always been here! Time for some history!

For a very long time, lesbian and achillian were umbrellas that included mspec people. As long as you experienced sapphic/achillian attraction, you could identify as a lesbian/achillian. It was only with the rise of radical feminism, and thus lesbian separatism, that these labels were closed to exclusively homosexual people. Therefore, mspec lesbian/achillian exclusionism is purely radfem/terf/tehm rhetoric. It is purely exclusionary and at its roots, transphobic.

It's important to note that many mspec lesbians/achillians, like myself, are incredibly queer. I mean like, more than average. We tend to have a much different and more complicated relationship with our gender and sexuality than most folks. I'm sure you can tell by my incredibly weird way of labeling myself! For some of us it also stems from other parts of our identity that aren't related to queerness (I'm a system!).

So basically, be very wary of people who try to tell you that mspec lesbians/achillians are "bad" or "harming the community" in some way. They are an exclusionist, full stop.

(Note: I use achillian instead of mlm or gay)

thank you!!! your input specifically is super valuable to me, i (hollow) follow your blog over on my main!

i think it's DEFINITELY important to consider the history of labels and how they weren't used in such a strict manner as they are today. also how transphobes and TERFs were the ones responsible for the separation of the lesbian and gay communities and the relationship we had.

Trans mlm peeps are valid as hell

You’re not fetishing gay men

You’re a bomb-ass mlm-ass man who deserves a great boyfriend and a great life

I wasn’t personally happy with the current achillean flag, so I decided to take a crack at it myself.

(Achillean is a term used to describe masculine people who are attracted to other masculine people.)

The blue frames the flag on the outside and represents masculinity. It is purposefully darker than the existing flag’s baby blue, as the baby blue felt representative of boyhood more than manhood and masculinity. The blue also acts as secondary to the green, just as the Achillean label focuses more on one’s attraction to masculinity than one’s identity as masculine.

The green carnation is classically understood to represent homosexuality because of a practice popularized by Oscar Wilde, who would wear a green carnation on his lapel as to indicate his sexual preference. Just as there is a diversity of colors among green carnations, there are a variety of greens in the middle stripe. This represents the diversity of sexualities, gender identities, and backgrounds of those included under the Achillean flag.