theres definitely a line of thought ive noticed in liberal circles and in media and stuff where they think that bad stuff works and is true but is just bad for some moral reason.
but the thing is that this stuff is just factually wrong. eugenics doesnt work. race science isnt true. theyre morally wrong, yes, but theyre also factually incorrect, ideas that are deployed in service of monstrous ideology despite the fact that they simply arent true.
and its a major impediment to effectively combating these ideas, because if you concede their premises, you have already given ground to your enemies.
I am literally always saying this.
The bad guy in X-Men: First Class says "I find the Nazis detestable, but I must admit their methods are effective," and then he uses those methods to trigger Magneto's powers. Except those methods are not effective and it shouldn't have worked.
In Magic: the Gathering back in the 90s, they had Urza do "good guy" eugenics to combat Yawgmoth's evil eugenics; they portrayed it as morally wrong, Urza's a bad guy, but they also portrayed it as successful. But it literally doesn't make any sense at all and would never work.
There is no such thing as a best way to be. There is no such thing as "more intelligent" or "more physically fit" as broad categories; intelligence and fitness are huge clusters of unrelated traits. And most importantly, almost none of those traits are genetically heritable except over millions of years.
When I talk about this, people always bring up height, because it's one of the very few traits that is genetically determined and accurately measurable, and you could do eugenics to breed people to be taller-- and who cares? The ubermensch is not an average Joe who's 6' 6" and otherwise unimpressive. Height would not have defeated Yawgmoth, height would not let you create the world's most powerful mutant.
Eugenics is the belief that some people are more useful or more effective than others, and that this usefulness is genetically determined. The former is dubious, and the latter is objectively false.

























