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Owen: (reading chat) “4c got the mace?" Oh good, how wonderful. A bloody mace that was used to smash his head in.

Luanne: (overlapping) I don't know, guys, I don't know anything, I don't (laughs)—wow, Nom.

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Owen: I think he was like. He kept just saying it was for lore? Luanne: What, is it to give to-give to 4c or something? Owen: (reading chat) "He gave most of it to be fair," I think we can, we can find the-we can find the Nominal defenders by seeing when people go like, "oh he's allowed to keep the gold, he's allowed to keep the gold." (Owen laughs) Um. "He gave it to Scott," oh, how lovely of him. Luanne: Wait, is it like canonically Scott's, like, inheritance? Why to Scott? Owen: Inheritance? It's not... Luanne: Why not to Katie? Or 4c, even. Owen: Yeah. Yeah. Luanne: That man has—that-doesn't have-isn't that man, like a, like a prince? Like, canonically? Owen: (reading chat) “4c got the mace?" Oh good, how wonderful. A bloody mace that was used to smash his head in. Luanne: (overlapping) I don't know, guys, I don't know anything, I don't (laughs)—wow, Nom. Owen: Um... Luanne: I have no idea any of the characters' lore, so I just. You have to, you have to be— Owen: What I know is that, like, Nominal said that it was for lore. Which is-puts me as an admin in a really difficult position. Because on one hand, this is like. These are resources that need to be shared with the kingdom. So that other creators can do things. Luanne: Is-was flowersmith canon? At the end of the SMP? Owen: The, uh, well. Luanne: Wait, someone is saying it's canon, and someone's saying Scott was Nom's best friend. Wh-which is it, guys? Owen: It's not canon. Luanne: No, I'm saying this slash gen. Owen: No, I know, I'm be-I'm being serious. I don't think—it was not confirmed. Luanne: No, I know a lot of you people are gonna say it's canon, but like, what like, did Scott and Nom go like, "flowersmith is real"? (reading chat) "Historians will say they were really close friends." Owen: (reading chat) "Scott confessed but Nom-but Nom didn't reply," I saw that clip. Saying "I love you," to someone is not romantic in nature. Like. He said "I love you," and his sister was there, so we can't be saying that-that's the barometer. I love Eloise and Beks, and I tell them that often (overlapping) that doesn't mean that it's romantic in nature. Luanne: (overlapping) Yeah, I said like, I said "I love you" to Katie and—to be fair, you guys are allowed to take that however you want, but like, I didn't say it inherently to be like, "this is my confession to Katie." Owen: (reading chat, through laughter) "and he was dying." Yeah.

#video #transcribed #i will tag this later when it won't be on the front page of tags lol

Nom: I-I'll be real, chat, do you wanna know genuinely why we're here? Genuinely why we're here is 'cause I woke up this morning. Six thirty, maybe I got like, on my PC at seven. I join a call with JawUnleashed, Rusty-Courage, and 4CVIT. And, I'm talkin' with 4c about the Steam Summer Sale, and he goes "yeah, I got, uh, I got like, this game, I got that game, I got Spiritfarer, I got the Quarry," and I was like, "oh, that all sounds cool." And I went and looked up the games. And I was like, "Spiritfarer, that seems awesome!" And he was like, "yeah, like, it's a fun game to like, play off-stream." So I bought S-Spiritfarer. And I went, "hm, what was this other game?" And I looked up the Quarry. And I saw story game. And I went "wait, I swear to god Jacksepticeye played this at one point. I wonder if it's good!" I looked it up, people said it was cool, it was cheap, (Nom laughs) uh, and then I saw it took-it took nine hours to beat, and I went hmm. Hmm. I could do somethin' stupid.

#nominalgravy #video #transcribed

orangeocelotmartyn

Impulse's adventures in Tumblr

Impulse: A-U? What do they call it, A-U? What's A-U stand for? Gem: Just, Alternate Universe Impulse: Alternate Universe, okay. Some of the alternate universe, I read some of those things, they're actually pretty cool. Gem: You shouldn't say that out loud. (Impulse begins laughing) Impulse: Oh, my bad. I'm not supposed to be there, sorry, safe place for you guys, I'm back out—I'm out. I-I didn't— Scar: I never venture to Tumblr. Impulse: Reddit was-Reddit was slow! Okay? If—listen. If Reddit's gonna be slow, I need an outlet for—(laughs) for my—(getting quieter) reading. Stuff. About myself. Gem: I'd be-I think Tumblr's fine, you just have to have the correct mindset. And you also shouldn't be talking about it on stream— Impulse: Yeah, my bad— Gem: —because it freaks them out, and then they start being weird. Tumblr's much better when they're just-they're just normal. Impulse: There was-there was plenty of normal stuff. I just-you can't go down the rabbit holes, I learned. (pause) And then people-people take—they take screenshots of me when I'm standing weird. (He holds up a picture to the camera) Scar: (starts laughing) What, wait what? Wait, hold on— Gem: Oh, wait, we can-we can tell about this. There-there was a Tumblr post that was, that was-that was pointing out all of the times that Impulse stood (Scar exhales a laugh) and-and-and yeah. Yeah, they-they were pretty pretty princess Impulse? Impulse: (talking over her) I stand so macho, what are you talking about (he laughs) Scar: I'm so confused, I-can I get a— Impulse: I literally had to work on my—stance, before Sunday because I saw something Saturday night and I was like, oh— Gem: It's very cute, it's very cute. (Impulse laughs) Scar: Can I see a photo? Impulse: I was pretty princess. Here, I'll bring it up again. Do you have my stream open? Scar: I wanna see it. Impulse: I'll find it again. Scar: Can I just say, can I just say real quick while he's doing that? Impulse—really swoled out. He looks like he could pick-pick up an ox. (Impulse laughs, clearly pleased) I really noticed it, like, Impulse-I see those guns, I was like, "this man could pick up an ox. If I fell on the ground, Impulse, one hand, could pick me up." Impulse: Thanks. Scar: O-oh my god, I just pulled up your stream, except there's an ad, so I just see it up in the little tiny box at the top— Impulse: Oh shoot—c'mon ads! Scar: —so it's even funnier. Oh, there it is. (he laughs delightedly) Little princess. Gem: Tumblr's so good, though, cause you just get to see funny stuff like that, and don't have to scroll through all the politics and crap that's on, like, X. Impulse: Mm. Scar: It's so bad, Gem. Gem: And Reddit. And is dead. It's just nice, I like seeing the fandom at it's purest form, please don't ruin it by telling them that you're on there. Impulse: Okay. Nah, I-I was just on there 'cause I, y'know, I was excited about the event. There was so many things being posted and stuff, I wanted to see—everything that was being said, about w-how people thought about the weekend, and favorite clips, and all that kind of stuff, I wanted to see it all, so I dipped into Tumblr. Just a little bit, just-just to dip my toes in, just a lil bit. I'm back out, I'm fine. I'll be alright.

#Seems apropos in this recent climate. Coughs.

Nom: 4cvit, being 4cvit, is, y'know, he's NA. The-(4c falls off the parkour and plummets as Nom stops talking and looks down into the abyss where 4c fell for five seconds) On that note. 4c's very sleep deprived. (Nom laughs) Cause he didn't go to bed yesterday. So this is still yesterday for him. (four seconds silence) This is gonna go great.

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Kaitlyn (from The Quarry): You know, I just realized, we may never see each other again after tonight. Nom: Oh my god it sounds like 4c at every single TwitchCon. If I had a sho-if I had a nickel. For every time at TwitchCon 4c's like, "guys. I'll never see you again." It's like every five minutes. Like, brother. I've seen you for like three years straight, what are we talkin' about, (through laughter) shut up. Like. I'll see you in a couple months, man. (Nom laughs)

#nominalgravy #video #transcribed #4cvit

I’m so sorry to everyone but we now must ask permission if we want to post anything of any kind. If you wanna post about Sam and Frodo you better get out your ouija board or else you might break the author’s boundaries :((((((

#discourse /#srry I’m just in a pissy mood lol.

Nom: (watching a Baltoy spin) Look at him go, look at him go. He’s very CC coded. (The Baltoy stops spinning to look at Nom) Oh he heard me. (Five seconds of silence as Nom flies up into the air with his mace in hand) I take it back, I guess you’re 4c coded. (He misses the first hit, screams goofily as the game lags him back into the air so he can take the shot again, killing the Baltoy) The universe gave me another chance.

#nominalgravy #video #transcribed #ccsmp

Frankly I think all cc’s should stay out of fandom spaces unless they are explicitly @‘ed in a work but that’s just me

Like. Fandom spaces are for the fans, not for the creator. We are playing with dolls. And there are hundreds of thousands of these dolls because each person has their own doll, it doesn’t matter who “created” the original doll. What the original doll maker wants does not matter because they have control over the original doll, not the copies that all the fans have.

#this makes no sense but I’m just so fucking tired dude who gives a fuck #discourse /

Cam: It-it-it-it-it breached containment, massively. Um, so much so that I got messages from family members as well. I got a message from my dad's best man? At his wedding, who I haven't seen in a number of years, congratulating me on my engagement. (three seconds silence) My dad's best man. In the family group chat, I got a message from my auntie that said, um, "why have I heard that you're engag-" I need to find the exact quote, because it was just so ridiculous, hold on-where is it again...yeah. "Cameron Wilson, what's with the 'he said yes' thing?" Um, "so and so thought you got engaged but I told him that wasn't Scott." The tweet went to my auntie's colleague, at work, who recognized it was me and showed my auntie, at work, that I had gotten engaged.

Cam: So that when she sees the tweet—and she has met Scott, a couple times, and gets on really well with Scott. So is obviously massively confused and calls me immediately to say, "what-what's happened with Scott? Who is this man?" Um. So, yeah, it went to my auntie's work, who-who then she had to, very very confused realize that I wasn't actually engaged, and I had to explain the situation. Um. So that was fun.

Cam: Um. I got a message from my mum? My mum messaged me, um, (through laughter) it was quite a funny message, actually. I need to find it. Cause she follows me on Twitter, my mum follows me on Twitter, I need to find what she said. She-she like said, um, (laughs). Where is it, hold on. Hold on, yeah, here it is, says, um, "is your friend Grian Scottish? Gaelic Duolingo just told me Grian equals sun." To which I respond, "no, his name is actually—" and then Grian's name, um, and then she just goes, "oh, well..." and then that's the end of the conversation. So. Yeah.

#cambam #grian #video #transcribed

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Nom: Hi Nukeri. Nuke: You struck me! (Nom laughs) The Irishman struck me! Vintage: Good. Nom: Gottem! Nuke: Not again, leave me alone! Nom: If I hit Nukeri hard enough I take his spot in MCC, I think that's how it works. (everyone laughs) Legundo: That's how that works, yeah. Nuke: Okay fine, but you have to be gay. (everyone laughs) Milkman: Yeah, that's the rules. Leia: Can you do that, Nominalgravy? Nom: Did you watch any of Bannerfall? Legundo: I could try. Uh... Leia: I tried to. Vintage: Oh my goodness. Leia: Oh, oh, there's no room. Legundo: (jokingly) I've played one on YouTube, its fine.

#nominalgravy #nukeri #legundo #video #transcribed

Mae: I kinda always felt like we-they were always. That Mae was always competing with the other people in Sco-in 4c's life. Almost like 4c could only have...one friend. At a time. And it was like. Kinda hard, in that sense.

Mae: (reading chat) Um. "I just wish Frogue didn't lick 4c as much." We were supposed-like, people were supposed to be mean to-to 4c. For his character building.

#video #transcribed #mae maezes #4cvit

Mae VOD (OOC talk of where 4c hopes the macing takes the story)

4c: Yeah, I mean. The story did not end up going exactly how I imagined it, but it ended up so much more beautiful in that way. Mae: I love it, I love the way that this has happened. 4c: Mhm, mhm. It's been like. And now it's like, it's so much more tragic, I think, in-in the end of it. Mae: Mhm. 4c: Um. But I will say uh, what's so cool about it, is like, with you, your character has this whole abandonment, like, struggle, and now I'm gone, right? Mae: Yep! 4c: But like. You're gonna-you could even be upset with me, or you could-you have a choice of where you wanna go with this. You could be upset with me, or you could, uh. Try to mend relationships, like, we'll see, like, how it actually ends up going. (Mae nods her character's head) You could be upset with Nom, like, there's a lot of ways. But like, in theory it adds this tension that you can work with, same thing with like, with Graecie. Uh, Graecie was like, yelled at, by Nom, and now Nom knows the truth and he could make up with Graecie, because of that, and they can now like, have, like, potential like, strong-stronger bonds. 4: Um. Owen, finally has respect for Nom, now, and the Kingdom, so that they, like, no longer—and I'm-I'm like this traitor whose no longer there, so if anything it brings them a little bit closer. 4c: Um. Scott, who, like…has been trying to show everyone—uh, show Nom that I'm this, not this perfect person, will now probably get an apology from-from Nom in some way. Like, I'm just like thinking about like all of the layers of things? That could happen? Mae: Yeah. 4c: And it's like a mixture of either strengthening or damaging the kingdom either way, like, it's gonna lead to something interesting? Rather than just, like. A direct—cause like—and if-if I end up joining another kingdom, or if I end up joining like, a different thing, right? Then you're gonna have to stand there and look at either your friend or someone who you thought was a friend and that's like, oof. Ooh. (three seconds silence) So sad. Mae: Yeah.

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Purpled: Oh, I'm far right, okay, um, I need one of you two to grab the arrow— Martyn: What a confession to make on stream. Sniff: What, what did we say? (Martyn laughs) Purpled: Need one of you guys to grab the arrow— Sniff: Wh-what did I say? Kara: Wow. Martyn: No, no, it was, it was, it was Purpled, Purpled went, "I'm far right." Sniff: Wait, Martyn. Martyn, Martyn. Martyn. Look down! Look! Purpled: Oh, no, that's not, no, no, no, no—(Martyn laughs) Sniff: It looks like boobies! (Martyn gasps) Purpled: Okay, wait, whose getting the arrow— Martyn: Four boobies! Sniff: Four boobs! Martyn: Must be cause it's Pride!

#Inthelittlewood #snifferish #purpled #kara corvus #mcc #video #transcribed

lorefulgood

dare I say that the concept of “boundaries” as it’s used in mcyt spaces is indicative of the poor understanding of consent many of these ccs have or are we going to keep pretending it’s acceptable to outright threaten your audience with targeted harassment if they don’t conform to your rules

beansfrombeans

transcript:

chatter: I'm choosing to read this as "don't @ me or send me content that makes me uncomfortable, and I won't go looking for it in spaces (like tumblr or w/e)."

pyro: um… if i hear about - i mean, i have - i have my little birds in all forests, and if i hear about, um, if i hear about repeated offenses, then, like, i will send my people after them. but, um… and i will, like, you know… deal with that, in the ways that i deem appropriate. but, um, there's obviously no way that i can fully stop it, but i really think that we as a community have a really good enough rapport to not have that happen.

#discourse #this is just. it’s truly sickening and I hate that this has happened and that we are one step closer to dream bragging #about getting people doxxed 2

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#how do I want to phrase this. more ccs need to understand that fandom is not for them and they should block something they do not like #instead of ‘speaking out about boundaries’#you cannot come into someone else’s house and tell them they must wear shoes there because you’re uncomfortable #but you can simply not go back to their house #this is especially true when telling others that you saw someone with shoes on will get that person attacked by fandom as a whole #even if you’re unaware of that being a consequence of still happens

antimony-medusa

I’m typing this unable to feel my hands because of bus woes so forgive me if this is not the most eloquent, but man, the more I look at how some of these new CCs act the more I think that creators should not be in fandom spaces.

There’s this idea that we see where creators think thar material about them/their characters is FOR them, and so they lay down rules about how things should be depicted (like you would on a gift for you) and they go into the comments to fight with people who put their tag on things they don’t like, etc. All these things that we see happening.

But they’re missing the point that— and I am not the first person to say this— things tagged with their character name are not there for them to see it, they’re there for other fans of the character to see it. I don’t post into the murderbot tag for the edification of Martha Wells, I post it for other murderbot fans. If Martha Wells showed up in my comments on an established fandom space I’m liable to panic-block and scramble for the exit.

And so these creators come in and say “this isn’t a good gift for me, don’t do this”, but that’s an essential misreading of the situation, and the thing is it’s kind of a presumptuous misreading of the situation when you’re monetizing your character. As my friend TD pointed out today, “don’t draw nsfw of my OC” is a perfectly normal thing to do within a peer to peer fandom context, but you are no longer interacting peer to peer when you have monetized your OC and are distributing them to as broad an audience as possible. You are the creator of a marketed figure. If you try to keep dictating people’s behaviour, that is how you become Anne Rice, which is never something you want to be.

But these creators are walking into spaces and saying that *everything tagged with their character name* is a gift for them and just like, no. If you keyword search your name on the entire internet you’re gonna overhear a lot of conversations that were not meant for you, and acting like it is even possible to make The Entire Internet safe for a public figure to look at is not a workable exercise.

Creators should not be walking into spaces where people are talking about their characters unless they’re ready to see a lot of things that were never made with them as the target audience. Make a fan art channel im your discord and let people bring things to you, but don’t walk onto the site where people’s favourite holidays to celebrate with characters include kinktober and whumptober and goreuary, where people explore their trauma through the lens of their favourite characters, where people experiment with different art styles and body type depictions of characters, where things that fall under the “fluff” umbrella include making characters into toddlers and making them so sad so they can have a hug, and expect that everything is going to be made with your comfort in mind. That’s just not how the fandom emotion works.

Fandom isn’t for creators, it’s for fans, and believe me that I also have creators’ comfort in mind when I say that fandom and creators should be kept separate.

antimony-medusa

Notes by @the-blaze-empress

antimony-medusa

Okay so I am seeing a lot of this in my notes. And while I do agree that I should not be sending NSFW links in Philza Minecraft's twitch chat or into the fanart channel of his discord— do not put it in the creator's space— and while I agree that there are certain classes of work that should be being tagged in a way where anyone can avoid the content if they want to anyways— nsfw, gore or work containing common triggers, contentious character depictions— I do want to gently ask if you are going to keep up with all the social posting of the creator of every character you ever want to include in art or fic and make sure to tag it to hide it from them if you ever want to depict a character as neurodivergent, or lgbtq, or genderbent, or overweight, to use some famous boundaries people have tried to establish, every time you post on Tumblr or on Ao3.

Or if maybe we should have some spaces that are not being creatively policed by the creators, where we don't have to tag with their eyes in mind. THAT is my point.

antimony-medusa

or maybe should the creator not be dictating what happens in this space.

#discourse

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