“Throne of Salt” Movietalk: The Force Awakens
"This movie has space wizards with space swords having space adventures and flying spaceships through space, and this makes my heart happy."
This is an accurate summary of my feelings towards The Force Awakens. Feel free to ignore the rest, because this is basically all that needs to be said.
Now then, the long version...
The Force Awakens was precisely what I needed from it. It did everything I wanted to see well. By no means flawlessly, but in the end, why should I be held captive by flaws? It was better than the Prequels. It was a good movie overall (no Fury Road, but that would be wholly unrealistic. [George Miller Star Wars WHEN, tho?]) That is more than enough for anyone of reason and sense.
The visual effects were fantastic. John Williams brought out the big guns. The actors, old and new, nailed their roles. The jokes hit home. The universe feels fresh and big. Everything worked together.
Two of the major complaints I have seen is that 1) the movie is too derivative of the Original Trilogy, and 2) Rey is a Mary-Sue. I will address these, so as to make clear that I think that they are bubkus.
Counterargument 1) Star Wars has always been derivative. Perhaps that is the wrong phrasing, though. Star Wars has always been derived from, other things, be them Kurosawa Films and Buck Rogers and World War 2 movies.
Consider this video, by Kyle Kallgren.
Myth is derived from something else, from the people and culture that surrounds it, and is used often to explain the origins of things long long ago, to form a continuity with a past that has gone beyond living memory. The Original Trilogy was drawing from older works, and now the New Trilogy (as I am henceforth calling it) is doing the same - A New Hope is nearing its 40th birthday next year. Stories with lasting power repeat themselves, and are passed down to each generation, who shapes it and passes it in turn.
Now, a lot of the complaints are with the direct setup, the story beats, the functions of things, rather than tone. I can see the points here, but I personally had little issue with it. I have long compartmentalized Star Wars into multiple canons, but only recently gave voice to it.
Canon 1) The Prequel Canon - The universe wherein the Prequels exist, and nothing else does.
Canon 2) The Original Canon - The universe wherein the Original Trilogy, and old expanded universe exist, with elided / modified / not-talked about usage of prequel and lame-EU material.
Canon 3) The New Canon - The universe wherein the New Trilogy takes place. The old-EU is present only when appropriate, and the events of the previous two trilogies are modified as needed for story.
For example (and this is purely me speaking, unsubstantiated by any extant Star Wars material), within this canon (unless / until / regardless of proved otherwise), Starkiller Base was the extension of the Death Star Project - Palpatine's long-term goal was to mass-produce Death Stars (DS1 and DS2 were clearly under production at the same time), and space-Nazis, like normal Nazis, are not known for common sense.
That, and Snoke only ever needed it to fire one shot. It was a terror weapon, meant to decapitate the Republic. This means he is aware enough of how the Force works to know that the plucky underdogs will pull off a million-in-one shot nine times out of ten.
This has me very exited, as it means that Snoke is savvy to the point of metafictional. (Yes, I am aware I am totally making this up and seeing things that aren't there, and thus breaking the most important rule of maintaining sanity as a fan)
And the brilliant thing about Star Wars is that I can do this theorizing. The canon is a wreck anyway, so I might as well go hog wild and make up whatever I want to. I'm the DM, I can do what I want.
Counterargument 2) Rey is the main character in a myth. Of course she is going to be exceptional and important. She has flaws, but they are with her person, not her abilities - she's trapped by her past, unwilling to let go, clinging to a horrible situation because of her resignation that someway, if she waits long enough, things will get better. She moves from inaction to action.
A Mary-Sue is an obnoxious author-insert character that devours attention and derails the story and setting for purposes of self-glory. No one ever uses it correctly, and it has basically become "character I don't like who has special powers".
Yes, Rey is powerful, but I've watched enough bad shonen anime in my time to know that potent knowledge of basic abilities is far from the worst in power escalation.
Now, valid flaws to pick at are Abram's typical lack of comprehension of scale and travel times in space, and leaving relevant character and setting information out of the movie and tucked away in supplementary material.
Like how that wasn't Coruscant that blew up, but Hosnian Prime, which was the current capital of the New Republic, since said capital moves around the Core Worlds every so often by vote to break up stagnation.
This would have been nice to know in the film.
Now then, other things I liked, in no particular order.
C3PO is now Big Boss.
The Droid Who Sold the World
"Rey, I'm already a demon."
This is by far the most important thing about the movie.
Kylo Ren was an excellent antagonist, and the perfect whiny baby archetype. He wants to be hard core so bad but he is just so bad at it, and he hates himself for it. Loads of room for development. (Though if they do a reformed bad boy romance subplot so help me I will gripe and rewrite like I always do)
Snoke, despite his horrid name, is exceedingly intimidating. He fits the "ancient evil power" excellently. I hope that A) he is a giant and 2) his background is never expanded upon. He was just a dark traveler who gathered the Imperial Remnant to himself.
Snoke's theme is similar to Palpatine's with the exception that Snoke's is all vocals, while Palpatine had vocals + a reprise of the Imperial March. This I see as Palpatine's human evil + supernatural evil vs Snoke's purely supernatural evil.
I like seeing the Dark Side back to being less as a "side", and more of a corruption of good. Fallen Jedi, instead of Sith. The two-party system entrenched by the prequels always bothered me.
Poe, despite not getting enough screen time, was excellent in every scene he was in.
Rey was great.
Fin was great.
BB8 stole the show. You know what scene.
The older cast not only had parts to play, but did not overshadow the new cast - the perfect balance and way to pass the torch.
I loved how the setting felt big and exciting again. The Republic was far away, the Outer Rim was a distant frontier, Maz's cantina was filled with aliens that I didn't recognize. I have not been able to feel that sense of wonder from Star Wars for years - it's also why I am staying away from most of the new-EU stuff, to maintain the feeling.
Those X-wings, tho. Best dogfights of the series.
Best saber fights, too. They had emotional weight like the OT, but not as much flash as the PT. Excellent balance.
No Kyle Katarn or Mara Jade, though. This makes me sad.
There was no Disney logo at the beginning. This pleases me. In summation, the movie was like going to meet an old friend. Perhaps we have grown apart over the years, and we've both changed, and nothing can make us feel exactly as we did during our youth, but it is enough to reminisce for a few hours.
Or, to pull a quote from Lovecraft's ‘Celephaïs’:
“There are not many persons who know what wonders are opened to them in the stories and visions of their youth; for when as children we listen and dream, we think but half-formed thoughts, and when as men we try to remember, we are dulled and prosaic with the poison of life. But some of us awake in the night with strange phantasms of enchanted hills and gardens, of fountains that sing in the sun, of golden cliffs overhanging murmuring seas, of plains that stretch down to sleeping cities of bronze and stone, and of shadowy companies of heroes that ride caparisoned white horses along the edges of thick forests; and then we know that we have looked back through the ivory gates into that world of wonder which was ours before we were wise and unhappy.”
That is this movie.












