David Tennant during the read-through for Good Omens 3

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@miss-conception
David Tennant during the read-through for Good Omens 3

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"In a story about Armageddon it's stupendous marvelous writing to actually let armageddon happen it defies the expectations GENIUS!!!!" I don't know you, but what I'm expecting from a story that is a comedy about stopping Armageddon, is that despite all the odds, Armageddon gets stopped. Possibly in a humorous way. Having Armageddon happen and call it defying the odds and expectations is fundamentally not understanding how stories work: you give me an ineluctable outcome, then our heroes triumph despite everything. That's defying the expectation. Transforming a comedy that had already defied the odds into a pointless tragedy that is a bad copycat of the previous story? It's boring storytelling. Letting everything go to kingdom come IS the expected outcome, am I supposed to be positively impressed lol? There's a quote from TP on stories and hope that lives rent free in my head, long before this finale even came out, it just explains what I love about stories and books in general.
Thank someone for the book and series 1 being the lovely proof of this statement, presenting the big threat and solving it with the wit and the love of the smallest of the characters.
What i think fully and genuinely is that allll of what was cut to condense the finale down to 97 min was filler.
This is what I actually think.
Because look at Season 2! something like 80% of that was pure filler. gaiman's wrist starting cramping coming up with filler so he even farmed it out to other writers! (nowadays it would be chatgpt).
There probably was a meandering, ultimately pointless 1941 part 3 featuring Aziraphale shooting some zombies and then being made to do the sadistic I am Wrong dance. There probably was some cowboy nonsense where Aziraphale is stupid and falls off a horse and Crowley sneers at him.
I don't give a shit. It's going to be filler. Because if there was anything in those scripts that wasn't filler, they would have filmed it. There was filler in the finished movie, even.
There is NOTHING that could have been written that explains why it's good to coerce a crying person who wants to live to kill themselves. Shakespeare couldn't have done it.
None of the actually big issues with this season have to do with things being cut. Because the big issues are that the show forgot what genre it was and that it was deliberately written to go against the expectations of the only people who wanted to see it.
Imagine sitting through six hours of cringy, flat, cowboy shenanigans only to have to watch that murder-suicide anyway.
I think it's very likely! It makes sense that apart from the bad editing (of the script) the "good bits" weren't discarded. I think you are right and what we got was the better parts of it.
in looking for my throwback thursday post just found this gif and needed to share it because.... ugh.

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Not soulmates, based on this quote by marsadist (via twitter) [Crowley's version]
Remember when Crowley was more of a "lovable rogue" type of character rather than the new Jesus? Yeah, good times
And they really thought they ate with this ending like it’s so crazy…
Y’all literally Job’d the fuck out of us.
One of the most interesting phenomena coming out of the finale (to me) is that so many people are lumping s2 in with s3, or saying they never liked it to begin with, or have decided that only s1 is canon to them.
Obviously we all have different opinions/tastes/attitudes, but I am also a finale hater, and s2 is far superior to s1 for me.
S1 is lovely, but:
1) it’s not enough of an adaptation
I love the book, it’s been one of my favourites since I was a teen and I’ve read it probably 20 times. But it is a book. TV is a different medium and more changes were needed to make it work well in that format.
2) some modernisation was needed. The Them end up feeling really silly and artificial at times, because whilst it was believable that a very sheltered British child might scoff at 39 flavours of ice cream in the 80s or even the 90s, that just seems ridiculous now, when Ben and jerrys is in every supermarket. Yes the village was supposed to be held in some perfect ideal of childhood but there were a few bits that truly stretched believability.
3) some modern sensibilities were needed. The treatment of Miss Tracy, and Shadwell’s entire character, really do not age well. Their romance ends up feeling quite tragic. Newt comes off as a mild-mannered incel in our current cultural context. More thought was needed to go into all these characters to make them work for a 2019 audience.
4) there are too many characters that are not Aziraphale and Crowley. Now this one is not really a quality thing, it’s just that i fundamentally don’t care about the other characters as much as I do about a&c. When my wife and I rewatched in anticipation of the finale (🤮), we ended up fast forwarding all the sections with newt, and many of the Shadwell bits, because we were struggling to get though it otherwise.
Whereas, season 2 for me was a joy. I loved the humour, I loved the build up of their romance. Plus, the introduction of Whickber street and especially Maggie and Nina, meant a lot to me. It was so fun and interesting to see our angel and demon interacting with and engaging with normal, every day humans.
But most of all I loved the flashbacks! Job and Edinburgh in particular are some of my favourite moments in all of good omens. They deepened our understanding of our characters, and raised philosophical and theological questions that challenge the whole celestial system.
Yes, the shit kiss was shit and the finale fifteen were very painful. But as I was watching it, I expected/understood that to be a third act break up in a romance. The point where the fundamental conflict between the characters is finally articulated in full, so that it can subsequently be resolved satisfactorily. Narratively and pacing wise, that is honestly what it should have been. The fact we were left with the rubbishness of the finale is a failure to properly resolve that conflict - not a failure of the original conflict.
Listen, I am biased. I would never have gotten into the good omens fandom without s2. I would never have gotten back into writing without s2. And I am privileged in that I have written my own s3, and so I have a satisfying resolution to the conflicts of s2 in my heart. But I do find it so strange to see so many people dismissing or dissing s2, in the wake of a shite s3.
Season 1 was my happy place for three solid years. I watched it over 100 times. No I was not sitting in front of the TV for all 6 hours each time, but I would put it on and go about my day, puttering around my apartment, cleaning, reading, cooking, etc. It never failed to put a smile on my face and leave me with a warm glow. And I always made a point to listen to the final song and watch the credits all the way to the end and the dedication to Terry. Look, I'm a grown-ass woman in my 60s and sometimes the ending would bring me to tears because it touched something inside of me that I normally keep locked down. I had all the things, the books, cd, DVDs, Funko-Pops, t-shirts, etc. I LOVED IT!
So here's my question:
What the fuck is wrong with you as a human being that you could take something this magical and uplifting and filled with such love and turn it into such an absolutely dark, depressing, nihilistic shitshow???
Yeah, I'm still pissed.

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Anyway the Good Omens social media crew can try to convince us that the lights are off and the bookshop is closed.
But the bookshop in my brain is still open. Only on weekends, or the occasional open stint on a quiet midweek day or two, but Whickber Street still bustles around it. It still exists, and is still tended to by a fussy, soft bookseller and his angular, hot headed, but incredibly loving husband. No one was invited to the wedding, needless to say. They just kind of showed up wearing rings one day, and no one had ever thought to ask when they tied the knot, or in fact if they ever even did.
And within its walls are a stock room, still painted yellow; a bedroom, now shared by a snoozing demon and a reading angel, on the weekend and those hazy midweek days; and a desk which never gets dusty or messy.
There’s also a cottage in the South Downs, with a large green house and vegetable plots which miraculously never deplete, and roses which bloom year round; there’s an armchair which has a worn down left arm cushion, from where a demon drapes himself over his angel more often than he sits on the matching chair across from it; a bedroom, shared, again; and the sounds of two lives well lived, infinite happiness and love beyond measure echoing within its floral, wallpapered walls.
Sometimes there’s still a free table at The Ritz just for them. The piano plays a familiar song softly, in time with the song of a Nightingale, and two immortal beings toast to a World which never closes or goes away, which never shuts, and which never ends.
I wonder if the Finale divide is based on age at all. I've always appreciated that the fandom is old and so the fans come in all age categories.
Please let me know whether you
LIKED GO3 - under 19
LIKED GO3 - 20-39
LIKED GO3 - 40+
DISLIKED GO3 - under 19
DISLIKED GO3 - 20-39
DISLIKED GO3 - 40+
NEUTRAL GO3 - under 19
NEUTRAL GO3 - 20-39
NEUTRAL GO3 - 40+
I didn't watch it
Just nosy/results please
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As a trans guy, Good Omens 3 (specifically Asa and Anthony) rubbed me the wrong way via transphobic subtext. No s3 would have been better, as while s2 doesn't function as an ending, it doesn't have transphobic messaging :/
We see throughout the series that the circumstances in their lives as Aziraphale and Crowley made living happily and having a beautiful, soft romance that much more difficult; they're fundamentally unable to have that in a conventional sense; something a lot of queer people and/or enjoyers of Will Wood can relate to. In spite of that, Aziraphale and Crowley had carved out a fragile but joyful existence for themselves, as is stated in s2, wherein they look out for each other and love each other, which may be part of so many queer fans' love of the show (aside from the queer leads): this assurance that people who aren't 'normal,' who society just doesn't account for (like hedonistic angels, kind demons, trans people, etc.) can be happy despite the pressure and expectations of those around them. I loved seeing Crowley and Aziraphale just say, 'fuck Heaven and Hell, fuck your expectations, we suck at our jobs and we're in love and we're capable of finding some kind of peace and joy in this messed up world you made.' Like, yes, fuck you, I hate being straight, I suck at it, I'm gonna go be weird and gay and happy <3
The end of s3 with Asa and Anthony living incredibly normal lives effectively negated that. The message of their story line, intentional or not, is: "look at how lovely and perfect and domestic Crowley and Aziraphale's lives would have been if we just kinda! Changed things up! Wouldn't that have been better?????"
Sometimes I think about what I'd be doing if I was cis. Not wishing I was cis, for starts. Maybe I'd be walking a dog on an autumn evening. Or making pancakes while listening to the Beatles. Or, or, or, because of the notion that, since I'm trans, all those forms of unbothered happiness and complete normalcy are simply not available to me. And maybe they are. Maybe I'll never experience joy like a cis person. But I'll experience joy like a trans person: like someone who took part in creation, like someone who fought to be themselves, like a self-made fucking man. But that's not as worth feeling as the normal, yes, so normal happiness you get to feel as a cis person, because being trans hurts, which negates the value of the whole experience. (This bit is sarcastic.)
Asa and Anthony got to experience joy like metaphorical cis people. They'd always been human, and their time as a demon/angel played no part in the way they feel, the way they went about their lives. They were happy the way they never could have been as an angel and a demon, and that is self-evidently a good thing as opposed to a neutral thing. After all, being a supernatural entity was hard. That means the joy of being themselves regardless of expectations, of beating the odds and living despite the people who wanted to tear them down, of having fucking built themselves outside of the frameworks they were given, is not at all worthwhile. (Also sarcastic.)
Yeah. No. Bad ending. I miss my sweet demon and rather impure angel.
All of this
Happy last days of pride month 🌈
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And if you did like the finale ao3 is still great so we all win
Based on this post
In the off chance that anyone wants to use this for their own meme go ahead, I just ask you tag me and give me credit for the art ❤️
Ohhh, excellent!!!! We needed this!😍
If someone asked me if I would fix how ooc Crowley and Aziraphale were in GO3 or fix the end I don't know what I would choose.
The whole movie needs to be totally fixed, I believe
I think we all just need to reject S3 and the last 15 minutes of S2 as canon and go straight to the cottage trope ending... The one they (and we) were promised 21 (!!!) years ago... We already live in a real dystopia. We need hope, not yet another fictional dystopia...
You're so right 🫂🫂❤