The socialist fantasy is that they will live the life of a bourgeois nobleman or an antebellum plantation owner.
They get to relax and engage in their hobbies all day, while some unacknowledged person works to provide everything that makes that life possible.
Or just "automation/technology" does it. Somehow.
It goes: slaves -> seven layers of abstraction -> the TV telling me I'm a good person -> me, relaxing in my socialist garden.
so, to be clear, I despise the naive r/antiwork style utopian socialism expressed in the screenshot which expects that somehow the abolition of class society would mean everyone becomes leisure class, when in reality it would mean everyone becomes working class. i've spent a great deal of time on this site debunking the arguments made by r/antiwork dorks.
but like, on some level you realize that the critique you're making also condemns the current capitalist system, right? you realize that under capitalism, as it exists right now, rich bougie trust fund kids are goofing off and wasting their time on frivolous distractions while the majority of people have to work, and the products created by the working class are overwhelmingly being consumed by that bourgeoisie leisure class rather than the people who created it?
do you agree with me that this is a bad thing, and trust fund kids should have to get a job like everyone else does?
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I’m not criticizing anyone who can afford to not work. That’s basically the entire goal of anyone who wants to retire one day. And passing on your accumulated wealth and its luxury to your children is totally understandable. Some people get to that point differently than others.
What I am criticizing is that the socialist fantasy is to be that which they condemn. They all want to live a life of luxury and not have to worry about who makes the electricity, or picks up the trash.
I also find it silly that they think that a socialist/ communist type of system would be able to provide the life they desire. Even the propaganda slogans historically used by socialist movements have always focused on “workers of the world unite” or creating a “workers paradise” or even a “dictatorship of the proletariat”. But they don’t want to work, they desire a life of leisure.
What I am criticizing is that the socialist fantasy is to be that which they condemn. They all want to live a life of luxury and not have to worry about who makes the electricity, or picks up the trash.
i've criticized these people at lengths as well, and as I already pointed out, there's nothing really socialist about it. this strain of thought is completely detached from the actual historical theory or practice of socialism, as you yourself pointed out here:
I also find it silly that they think that a socialist/ communist type of system would be able to provide the life they desire. Even the propaganda slogans historically used by socialist movements have always focused on “workers of the world unite” or creating a “workers paradise” or even a “dictatorship of the proletariat”. But they don’t want to work, they desire a life of leisure.
Indeed! which is why, as an actual socialist, I have so much contempt for that strain of thought. you can search r/antiwork on my blog and find page after page of me arguing against those losers.
circling back to this:
I’m not criticizing anyone who can afford to not work. That’s basically the entire goal of anyone who wants to retire one day. And passing on your accumulated wealth and its luxury to your children is totally understandable. Some people get to that point differently than others.
certainly someone who worked hard and saved up all their life has earned a rest, but I think it gets more questionable when you talk about a spoiled brat who inherited daddy's money.
but let's take that further: what about several generations of people who don't have to work? not because their grandad worked really hard, but rather because they lucked into buying stock in ford motors on the ground floor? at what point do we say "actually maybe these people should get a job?"
I know you're not criticizing anyone who can afford to not work. my point is maybe you should be criticizing at least some of them.


















