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"my opposition wants to deny (X) because accepting it would harm their conclusion" "my conclusion relies on (X) not existing, and i have evidence to prove it" "see! exactly what i told you. denying (X)"

this doesn't prove if X exists or not, and doesn't invalidate evidence that it doesn't; it just sounds like it does. this is a fallacious argument.

the most despicable part of globe-supremacy is the strategic refusal to acknowledge the sphere conspiracy. you can never address the earth being flat if nobody admits it is

one of the most despicable parts of female supremacy is the strategic refusal to acknowledge male oppression. you can never address a problem it nobody admits it exists. there is no guilty party if we ignore the problem.

pre-empting obvious response: "okay but female oppression actually happens and so does its denial!" a conclusion being true doesn't make the argument not fallacious.

in other words this is an argument that can only work if you both already believe it and have no idea how fallacies work.

you will watch the news and see story after story of a woman being killed by a man but no one will call it femicide.

...is femicide when a woman is killed by a man with no other qualifiers? (some laws actually do that) can't be, that would imply that either women are more human than men (homicide gets a longer sentence than animal cruelty) or that men are less human (we imprison humans for biting people and kill dogs) alternatively, femicide is equally as bad as homicide, in which case why are we bringing it up?

if there are other qualifiers, like motivation or intimate partner or because misogyny or something, then... well, maybe the women being killed by men isn't called femicide because it isn't.

of course this is a propaganda piece so i can't expect it to give a precise definition, but still

*also most of the femicide topic runs into the "straight men don't kill their pregnant cis male boyfriends because of misogyny" problem i've gone over previously, so be aware of that before

*"femicide is improperly punished" runs into the issue of sentencing actually being harsher for male perpetrators and female victims

*also, note that journalist reporting of something is entirely unrelated to how commonly something happens. and when it does to getting jumped by a serial killer for going outside, that's always going to be majority men.

you will hear statistic after statistic about women being raped/assaulted/trafficked by men but no one will call it misogyny.

"disproportionately affects people who are female because they are female" is very subtly distinct from "specifically targets women because they hate women"

i've already linked this essay, but another way to think about it is saying that "nobody ever kicks a woman in the nuts because of misandry"

also known as "it's always a man" implies "it always happens to a woman" because men are heterosexual

i know it sounds like a nitpick, but if you can't separate bias against women from biological differences you'll never be able to accurately solve problems, might end up making them worse, will certainly end up pissing literally everyone else off and cause your entire movement to blow up in your face, and might genuinely drive your entire civilization extinct.

you hear songs and watch shows where men are degrading and abusing women but nobody blinks.

see there you go, it's not that hard to bring up something that's actually easy to prove. now just... prove it's happening

nah i'm not using data here either, you get this one

there’s a “male loneliness epidemic” narrative but not a “female suffering crisis” narrative.

ah yes, over the past 50 years society has been run by neomarxist meninnist movements who create laws in every country with an actual economy. "female rights activists" are all delulu far rightoids (despite being another branch of neomarxist) who genuinely believe the matriarchy has already been toppled and that women can actually have their own problems.

what alternate fucking universe do you live in where feminism doesn't exist??? what do you think feminists even are? what have they been doing this whole time???