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Wolvden-Official talking about “Hidden Genes” (Carriers/Non-Carriers)

Wolvden-Official explaining that some mutations are genetic and recessive so inbreeding would be encouraged to unlock them

There are probably more links than this one (that I might go back in and add later) but as of right now, if you’re breeding for mutations, inbreeding would probably be the fastest way to unlock them/discover them, because they’re all very low random chance. As things get released I doubt NIB wolves will ever be more valuable. I think the wolves with inbreeding and mutations discovered through inbreeding in their lines will end up being more valuable.

+ Mod Grizzly

There's a long and a short answer.

The short answer is, I really don't because they're going to be the ones not prepared for Winter when it comes because they're still in the Lioden mindset.

The long answer is because it's slowly ruining the wolf market.

When I say "mass breeders" I mean people who's primary focus of this game is breeding more than half their females every heat (or those insane people breeding NBW's and immediately selling the NBW and pups for insanely low prices), selling their pups/auctioning them all off, and when they get a slightly better mark, charging inflated prices for it. Having a large number of pups in circulation of the market (whether through trades or in the forums) causes the market value of more plain potato pups to go down and spikes the market value of marks that easily pass but aren't available in the base wolf builder (ie Merle and Inuit). When those prices spike, that doesn't necessarily mean they're worth that much, it just means that's what people are paying for those marks. Then someone eventually gets a double Merle or double Inuit marked pup. The single marked pups' markets crash by about 50% because the market value for double marks just spiked. Rinse and repeat until you get to where we are, penta/quad marked Merle pups. That means that single, double, and triple marked Merle pups are pretty much obsolete, with the next amount up being slightly better. So super plain pups are worth nothing even if they also have combo/new marks that aren't as striking as Merle.

So it's like in Lioden how there were all of those marks that literally needed project breeders to spread because they were on the verge of disappearing from the game, but even though they were pretty/striking/fit well onto designs they weren't Rosettes so nobody wanted them. That's why cubs and NCL's were so cheap. The larger the disparity between community dubbed "valuable" and "dispensible" marks shows how bad or good a market is. And as of right now I know of multiple people who've bought/sold quad marked Merle pups for more than 120gc. That shows you how broken the market is. I know the market is new, and people are trying to figure out what things cost, but just willy nilly pricing things for as much as you can squeeze out of other members isn't the way to go about it. If people don't slow their roll, the market isn't going to recover before PA and then it never will. We'll be stuck in another broken market that doesn't allow people to breed for whatever they want and still earn money.

Do you see what I'm saying? I'm upset because the game isn't even 2 weeks old and having a cool mark like Merle isn't really worth anything anymore because there are people speed-running the breeding process and producing more pups than they have the resources to care for, causing a HUGE inflation of prices for slightly better pups that are going to crash as soon as the next cool mark comes out. But the Merle marking market won't ever recover.

If you need me to clarify anything, I'd be happy to because I typed this up on my phone lol.

As for the merle market or base/mark breeding in general I believe people are going to get smacked in the face pretty hard when that really valuable marked/base wolf pup dies suddenly and they've basically wasted all their time and money breeding it...

Honestly get your pack stronger before thinking to mass breed. Also you may want to have enough food and toy reserves to support your mothers and pupsitters and pups when they age out in all seasons.

Also in winter you're going to have the worst time if you're too busy breeding and not busy enough getting stats and building your hunters.

I honestly don’t think mass breeding is the way to go in Wolvden at all. I think there might be a few successful people, but I would highly encourage people to consider smaller breeding operations to save the market and save their own wallets.

Everyone should listen to this person.

Don’t mass breed. Focus on stats and stores.

100% this. Plus merle isn’t going to hold value if people are mass-breeding instead of focusing on building their pride up first.

Also, territory space is so hard to get right now it’s almost not smart to fill up with pups that you won’t have space or, or you might not be able to sell off because other ppl don’t have space for them either!

Right, that’s why I haven’t bred more than 2 litters. I don’t want to crash so I’m focusing on stats and keeping my den relatively empty.

And the point about the den space is very important!

First off don’t be breeding in large quantities. While you personally may have not had any puppies die yet, the survival statistics and RNG of this game are much more difficult than Lioden’s.

Second, hunt/explore/fight/scout/etc as much as physically possible. Beef your pride’s stats up to wear the synergy of your hunting team is as high as possible, your scouts are high level, your pupsitter’s are high level, etc. so you can provide basic care during the winter when things get tougher. You’ll need to be focused on personality types and stats a lot for right now in order for your hunting party to be successful.

Third, research the herbs/remedies/cures as much as you can! These will come in handy for selling those bundles and curing your own pride of ailments.

Fourth, don’t be selling all of your items right off the bat - HOARD your items until at least PA goes live.

Fifth, keep everyone 100% fed and happy until their stats are boosted.

For those who were not able to attend!

-Crossroads has been updated to simple selectable images in a list rather than a map view

-Quest snakes return

-You have a limited number of starting biomes. You can send wolves to scout unexplored territories to gain access to them

-Seasonal biomes & weather in explore

-You can click on items you acquire in explore directly, presumably to use them

-Enemies in explore now have their own levels - you can encounter level 15 enemies as a level 1 wolf, for example

-Addition of HP and healing items; you can still explore if you have 0 HP, but you can’t hunt

-All wolves have their own energy for hunting and scouting, which replenishes the same way as your Lioden king. Both male and female wolves can hunt, scout, be herbalists, and be pup sitters

-Hunting packs have party synergy, which increases their chances of catching prey when working with the same group

-Descendants and lineage have been consolidated onto fewer pages

-You can only have one breeding male in your pack at a time. This can be any wolf in your pack, and does not have to be your lead wolf

-Lead wolves can be male or female

-Broodmothers -> pup sitters. Can protect up to 10 puppies, each takes 10% energy, and they divide 60% protection evenly between each cub they protect

-Up to six puppies in a litter

Short list of the Shit the HOA at my pervious house tried to pull:

Banning personal and community food gardens (The reason the tag for my garden is “The garden of earthly HOA violations”)

Banning people from using thier personal yards as Native Plant Restoration microzones, something that looks gorgeous and is extremely helpful to the local ecology

trying to get the city council to remove protections on adjacent city Open Space/Native Plant restoration zone so they could mow it.

mandating the use of ONE landscaping company in the neighborhood, coinicdentally owned by the HOA president’s son

Mandating the use of an unecessary water purification company on all properties.

suing city animal control for collecting lose dogs and cats and returning them to the addresses on thier collars.  You know. that thing animal control does so the animals don’t get run over or disemboweled by the coyotes or catch and spread rabies.  The thing that’s illegal to let your pet do out here for those reasons Karen.

Suing the city council to remove a city bus stop in the neighborhood that was heavily used by many residents.  They damn near got away with it becuase the HOA meetings were always in the middle of the day on a weekday.  You know, when the residents that use that stop are working.

Sending people letters threatening to fine them for having “Out Of Season” holiday decor.  Specifically targeting my Indian neighbors who were celebrating Diwali, not Christmas and the Jews with visible Menorahs.

Fining people for doing thier own appliance and car repair on thier own personal property

Fining people for operating a business out of thier house, specifically targeting a disabled neighbor that does comission tailoring and garment repair out of her home.  never bothered a soul except the one snoopy bitch who didn’t like that her clients were allowed to park in the tailor’s designated and otherwise unused parking space.

Trying to fine a neighbor for flying a Pride Flag

HOAs are invasive, bigoted, corrupt and cruel institutions that should never have been allowed to be created.  If you live in and HOA area, showing up at the meetings to tell people what the fuck is wrong with them, Joining your HOA board to protect your neighbors and possibly organize the dissolution of the HOA is one of the best things you can do to protect the marginalized members of your community.

like lmao one time I got hit by a car so i had to last minute call out from work at walmart, and i get there the next day, i looked fucked up as hell, and they’re like “so whyd you call out last minute without checking with us first? it’s a major warning gotta say”

and i’m like “well, as the call out said, i got hit by a car and was in the hospital. because you know. i was hit by a car and as you can see bones are broken on me and i am very scratched up and bruised.”

and they get the fucking most ridiculous look on their face like they’re broken or something and theyre like “will it happen again?”

and i’m like “will i get hit by a car again? I don’t know. Didn’t think I would this time either”

like they’re acting like they don’t understand what getting hit by a car is because their bullshit training doesn’t account for it lmao… as if they aren’t human enough to understand what getting hit by a car is

the whole time i was off my manager insisted i call in every single day to tell them i was taking the day off. even when i called them from the hospital, barely able to speak, saying they’d found another issue (Mono) and that I’d be off for at least two weeks the response was “Oh I’m sorry to hear that, let us know how you’re feeling tomorrow.”

talking felt like swallowing glass, and the only words i spoke for the majority of my time off was the hoarse croaking i made down the phone to let my manager know that yes, surprise surprise, i was still going to be off for two weeks just like i’d told her every time before.

I broke my foot on the job last Sunday. I work in a warehouse and my dumbass coworker Doug was fucking around and ended up tipping a heavy crate right onto my foot. It hurt like a bitch and now my whole foot is encased in a cast, and I’m going to be on crutches until August probably. And of course the various fucking managers all keep calling in. How am I doing? Could I come into work today? When am I going to be able to come back into work? Are you sure you can’t make it in? Why not? Isn’t there any way you can work around your injury? Like, morons, I sent you a copy of the fucking doctors report. I am out of fucking commission until practically the end of the fucking summer.

My boss has other ideas.

He walks over to me and says I’m not allowed to just close my lane without asking; I tell him I cut my hand and need to clean it, and he tells me that I already have paper towels, I don’t need to leave my post.  I tell him that I would like to clean it out with soap, and he tells me that there should be hand sanitizer under my register, so again, I don’t need to leave my post.  I don’t think anybody has ever gotten a flesh wound and thought “you know, I need to rub some alcohol on this, stat,” but this guy seemed to think that was the perfect solution.

I had to continue cashiering with one hand for two hours before my lunch break, all the while my boss is telling me to pick up the pace because my items-per-hour is substandard.

Manager told her “Yeah it’s hot water it’ll burn, finish your shift and you can go”

Her shift wasn’t over for the next 2 hours

Luckily a server happened to be waiting on a few nurses, so the server grabbed the burned lady and had the nurses look at her injury and they determined they were 2nd degree burns and she had to go to the hospital IMMEDIATELY

Only THEN did the manager begrudgingly allow my former coworker to leave the premises, and complained the whole time that she had to “pick up the slack.”

They aren’t being ignorant. They don’t not understand the problem. They are deliberately trying to make you feel guilty and ashamed for having the audacity to be injured.

This is why we unionize, and this is why we call our unions at the first sign of this bullshit.