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There are the rich who are never satisfied because their wealth is never enough for them; these citizens are totally useless for the city. Then there are the poor who, because their daily bread is never enough, are dangerous because they are deceived by the tongues of crooked politicians...
-Theseus to Adrastus in Euripides' Suppliants
Comrade Theseus, voice of the proletariat
Yes, @blueberry-ink-93, Theseus also treated his mother very well :)
From the same play as before:
Aethra: My son, shall I say something which will give you and our city some honour?
Theseus: Yes, please do. Women can offer much wise council.
Aethra: But, I’m a little hesitant to utter what it’s in my mind.
Theseus: That’s a shame, mother. Keeping wise words from your dear son!
Aethra: No, I won’t stay silent now so as to have this silence punish me some time in the future. Nor will I hold back something that needs to be said through fear that speech making is unbecoming to women.
And again, because this is my favorite ancient play, I will insist on showing one of my all-time favorite quotes from it. Theseus debates the value of equality/democracy over monarchy, and says that because a king takes and takes and gives nothing, then:
Why would anyone want to bother with wealth and livelihood for his boys if it will all end up in the ruler’s hands? Or his girls. Why bother raising sweet daughters in your house if they, too, will end up with the ruler, whenever he wants them, leaving you with tears of sorrow? I’d rather die than have my daughters dragged against their will into a wedding bed!
Fundamentally he’s arguing more than just that monarchy is bad, but that any level of class disparity or special status under the law is inherently unjust. A king could just as easily be a president, a congressman, celebrity, or cop. All of their exemptions/paying off of the law would sicken him.
Communist Theseus?? I love him
He’s truly delightful. A lot of his political opinions are genuinely progressive/radical even for today in some cases.
There is nothing more hateful to a state than a tyrant. There, first, there are no common laws because one person rules, holding the law in his control. This is not equality. When laws are written both the weak and the wealthy receive equal judgment. It is possible then for the weak to accuse the lucky whenever they are slandered and the smaller person overcomes the great if his cause is just. This is freedom.
Plutarch’s Life of Theseus gives us a good idea how he was viewed by the disenfranchised:
And now he lies buried in the heart of the city [of Athens], near the present gymnasium, and his tomb is a sanctuary and place of refuge for runaway slaves and all men of low estate who are afraid of men in power, since Theseus was a champion and helper of such people during his life, and graciously received the supplications of the poor and needy.
And that’s before we even get into how he acts in Sophocles or any of Euripides’ other plays <33 in Callimachus’ Hecale, it seemed that he had adopted his progressive opinions from her, after learning that a king had forced her entire family to fight in a war they wanted no part in, leaving her abandoned and alone after they died. He wanted to support and honor her as much as possible
Like,, I’m not even a neohellenist, but if I was, I would be doing so much hero-worship for this guy
There are the rich who are never satisfied because their wealth is never enough for them; these citizens are totally useless for the city. Then there are the poor who, because their daily bread is never enough, are dangerous because they are deceived by the tongues of crooked politicians...
-Theseus to Adrastus in Euripides' Suppliants
Comrade Theseus, voice of the proletariat
Yes, @blueberry-ink-93, Theseus also treated his mother very well :)
From the same play as before:
Aethra: My son, shall I say something which will give you and our city some honour?
Theseus: Yes, please do. Women can offer much wise council.
Aethra: But, I’m a little hesitant to utter what it’s in my mind.
Theseus: That’s a shame, mother. Keeping wise words from your dear son!
Aethra: No, I won’t stay silent now so as to have this silence punish me some time in the future. Nor will I hold back something that needs to be said through fear that speech making is unbecoming to women.
And again, because this is my favorite ancient play, I will insist on showing one of my all-time favorite quotes from it. Theseus debates the value of equality/democracy over monarchy, and says that because a king takes and takes and gives nothing, then:
Why would anyone want to bother with wealth and livelihood for his boys if it will all end up in the ruler’s hands? Or his girls. Why bother raising sweet daughters in your house if they, too, will end up with the ruler, whenever he wants them, leaving you with tears of sorrow? I’d rather die than have my daughters dragged against their will into a wedding bed!
Fundamentally he’s arguing more than just that monarchy is bad, but that any level of class disparity or special status under the law is inherently unjust. A king could just as easily be a president, a congressman, celebrity, or cop. All of their exemptions/paying off of the law would sicken him.
I love this two for so many years I still can't believe that anime finally came out---🦑🦑🦑
sketchys based on Go for it! Octomura by @pirozhkiparty :)) where Nakamura is a Cecaelia (obsessed with your writing fr fr)
Guys pls go read this fic it cures depression. It actually adopted 63 orphan children and solved world hunger. This fanfic has been ordained by the holy church of BL
also the first page I was too lazy to flesh out a full comic but Hirose fell into the ocean and Octomura saved him and revealed himself or something, idkkk man i just work here

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thinking about the new Nakamura-kun, specifically the moment where we get the briefest insight into Hirose’s POV
right before this clip, Hirose shows Nakamura the game they’re talking about. He’s trying to include Nakamura, to not ice him out or make him feel excluded. He invited him to study and then to lunch! He clearly wants Nakamura here and enjoys his company. But Nakamura doesn’t know about the things they’re talking about and so can’t contribute.
We’re in Nakamura’s head for 99% of the anime. We know that in this scene, he’s writing down notes about what Hirose likes (music, shows, video games) so he can check them out later. But Hirose doesn’t know that, and they just came from studying at the library. So to Hirose, it seems like Nakamura doesn’t actually want to be there; that he’s just being polite and is trying to continue studying with his notebook. And that’s why Hirose looks so sad and guilty in a shot that we the audience are privy to, but Nakamura doesn’t notice.
And we see how Hirose deals with that guilt and sadness—by not giving up! By paying attention! He thinks Nakamura is sitting in polite discomfort, trying to sneak in some studying, and he tries to make Nakamura more comfortable. He asks him about what music he likes, he notices when his drink is empty and offers to get him more. He even gets sulky when his other friends usurp his gallant offer by asking him to get more for them, too, because that offer was to Nakamura, thank you!
Then, when Nakamura helps him get the drinks, Hirose takes that opportunity to apologize for his perceived offense of “making” Nakamura tag along.
And we get a nice subtle parallel here to when Hirose almost did the exact thing he’s worried Nakamura is doing now—politely tagging along when Takeuchi tells him to join so as not to rock the boat or be a “spoilsport,” as Takeuchi calls him. Forcing himself to go. And now Hirose is concerned that he acted like Takeuchi and pressured Nakamura.
This is such interesting insight into Hirose, and really helps further establish—outside of Nakamura’s biased POV—that he’s a genuinely kind and considerate person (even if he does have a bit of a mischievous streak with that prank he pulled on Takeuchi) and that he’s genuinely interested in putting in effort in being friends (and maybe more) with Nakamura.
I really hope we get more insights like this outside of Nakamura’s POV because Nakamura, our precious adorable unreliable narrator, is wrapped up in his own anxieties and stuck in his own head, and assumes Hirose is perceiving him through the same Doom Gloom Awkward Weirdo lens he sees himself and his actions through. But Hirose doesn’t know his thoughts, his plans, his hopes, and Hirose has his own internal world that Nakamura can’t see into, either.
And we the audience got a tiny glimpse into Hirose’s internal world this episode.
Does Sally Jackson ever flinch when her husband Paul raises his hand to grab something from the top shelf
Does she stop breathing when his arms lace around her to hug her from behind
Does she have to hold back a panic attack when she sees minotaur costumes on Halloween
Do they make her feel like she can’t breathe, like its hands are still wrapped around her neck, squeezing
Did her postpartum night-terrors wake the baby every night
Does she cry when Estelle spends the night at a friend’s house, worried she’ll never come home again
Does she cover her ears during thunderstorms
Does a tear roll down her cheek when she drives by an airport
Does she prefer to strain her eyes over getting reading glasses, because wearing them reminds her too much of being gaslit as a child
Can she even let Estelle attend public school, or have Percy’s stories about cannibal English teachers finally gotten to her
How does Paul comfort her
How could Paul comfort her
This wasn’t his world. He only half-understood it, and he wanted to understand it For Her.
Does Paul insist on cooking because he doesn’t want Sally to see him as the scumbag who made her do everything
Do Percy’s demonic enemies send Paul nightmares, trying to convince him to abandon his family
Does he brush his teeth in the car after a night out with friends, worried Sally will recoil at the scent of alcohol on his breath again
Does he keep (what Percy assures him is) a celestial bronze gun in his classroom, in case he needs to protect a student he suspects to be a demigod, even though all he can see is a watergun
Does the terror-stricken look in Sally’s eyes when he accidentally asks her for something—that Gabe always wanted—eat him up inside
Has he ever had to kill someone the mist made him think was his friend, in order to protect a demigod in his school
Do Sally’s nails dig into his back when she’s having nightmares again
Can he ever get the mental image of Percy killing Kelly right in front of him out of his head
Did Paul put Estelle back to bed at every midnight cry, to make sure Sally knew she wouldn’t be alone this time
Does she require hourly check-ins when he leaves the house, to make sure he hasn’t been kidnapped by any queens or giants, and that he hadn’t left her like Poseidon did
That he wasn’t just another tidal wave that would crash over her and wash away; that he would be her rock in the hurricane. The shield to her sword, a loving father to their children.
There are the rich who are never satisfied because their wealth is never enough for them; these citizens are totally useless for the city. Then there are the poor who, because their daily bread is never enough, are dangerous because they are deceived by the tongues of crooked politicians...
-Theseus to Adrastus in Euripides' Suppliants
Comrade Theseus, voice of the proletariat
Hera and Hephaestus commission I got from Ashyskai (you can also find them at Ashyskaii)
The idea is that part of Hephaestus’ divine disability makes him age a lot slower than other gods, hence him being the same age as a young adult Ares who was already running around in battles and stuff. Hera fears that the discovery of her bearing a less-than-perfect child could rupture her status as wife of Zeus and queen of Heaven— Leto already makes jabs at Hera’s children to praise that fortunetelling kook of hers. So, despite the pain it made her feel, she concealed Hephaestus and cast him out to sea with the hope that one of the sea goddesses will find him. It would be almost a decade before she discovered that her own foster daughter Thetis took him in <3
(Also join my Discord, we do ancient poem/play bookclubs + I’ve compiled hundreds of open-access translations to things. I share new scholia translations, PDFs of fragments, and have a ton of discussion boards to talk about all that stuff and more. It’s constantly being updated whenever I learn about a new translation or have the energy to catalogue another poet. Also I really wanna find enough people to do some dramatic readings of plays)
How their offers sounded to me
Live Paris reaction
(he fled while Hermes chased after him and Hera bade him to stop. She was usually the first to speak to him, and spoke to him the longest)

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The Childhood of Ares
Felt like folks might appreciate another one of my heavily-sources posts on the gods. Finally did one on Ares.
Focuses on his childhood in being raised by the Horae (especially justified Dike and peaceful Eireine), Thero the Beastwoman, and Priapus Dactylus.
Oh wow. Not even Adonis is safe from Aphrodite's hot and cold love
I've been told that who wrote this research was Robert Graves. I did read a bit around him just to know how seriously I should take his word and now I am kind of skeptical about the legitimacy of this source.
Luckily he mentions the sources he took this from so it helps me to know what I should read
Apollonius Rhodius
Diodorus Siculus
Theocruitus's Idylls
Lycophrom
None of these sources seems to imply that she slept with Butes with the objective of making Adonis jealous. Apollonius only mentions Aphrodite saving Butes out of pity. Diodorus was more interested in relating the costumes of Sicily and praising Eryx, he mentions Butes only at the start and there is no mentions of Adonis. Theocruitus talks about the festival of Adonia with no mention of Butes. Lycophrom just briefly mentions Eryx. I am very inclined to not believe this narrative... I am quite relieved, Butes x Aphrodite is too goated for her to sleep with him just to make Adonis jealous. But now that I know that this guy is not that reliable I want to comment on some other stuff he says that I think it is misleading
The only source that I know that even mentions Adonis adding his portion of the year to Aphrodite is Pseudo-Apollodorus and it never say that she used her girdle to bewitch him.
That detail was very unnecessary to add and it really paints Aphrodite into a negative light of manipulating her lover's free will
😭where did he get this from? What?
Note: they cited the Theocritus scholiast on 15.100, not Theocritus himself. And they were saying Tzetzes’ On Lycophron, not Lycophron himself.
Scholiast on Theocritus’ 15th Idyll, like 100:
δέσποιν' ἃ Γολγώς: πόλις Κύπρου ὠνομα- σμένη ἀπὸ Γολγοῦ τοῦ ᾿Αδώνιδος καὶ ᾿Αφροδίτης. Ἰδάλιον δὲ πόλις Κύπρου. Ἔρυξ δὲ πόλις Σικελίας ἀπὸ Ἔρυκος τοῦ 10 Βούτου καὶ ᾿Αφροδίτης. τὸ δὲ χρυσῷ παίζουσ' ᾿Αφροδίτα τοιοῦτον ἴσως ἐστίν, ὅτι οἱ ἐρῶντες χρυσῷ πείθουσι τὸ ἐρώ- μενον.
Here is a rough translation:
Mistress of Golgoi: a city of Cyprus, named after Golgos, the son of Adonis and Aphrodite. Idalion too is a city of Cyprus. Eryx is a city of Sicily, named after Eryx, the son of Butes and Aphrodite. And the phrase ‘Aphrodite playing with gold’ is perhaps of this sort: that lovers persuade the beloved with gold.
Scholiast on 103a is also interesting for Adonis
μηνὶ δυωδεκάτω: τινὲς δι' εξαμήνου φασὶν ἀνέρχεσθαι τὸν "Αδωνιν.
In the twelfth month: some say that Adonis ascends after six months.
Tzetzes’ On Lycophron 831a:
“Schoeneidi;” Schoeneis, Arenta, and Xene are epithets of Aphrodite. Adonis is called “Gauas” by the Cypriots. According to some, Adonis was the son of Cinyras, the king of the Cypriots, and not Theiantos, from whom Aphrodite gave birth to Priapus, who was ugly and deep-voiced. For Hera, being pregnant, touched her with a bewitched hand and caused her to give birth to such a child. Adonis was called “destroyed by the Muses” because the Muses, angry at Aphrodite for causing them to fall in love and making many of them give birth, killed her beloved Adonis. They sang a delightful hunting song, and hearing it, he was excited and rushed to hunt, where he was killed by a boar. Others say he was killed by Ares in the war. The Muses, carried away by their anger at Aphrodite, because she had stirred many of them to love and persuaded them to mate with men and give birth, such as Calliope giving birth to Orpheus and Cymodoce from Oeagrus; Terpsichore giving birth to Rhesus from Strymon; Cleio giving birth to Linus from Magnes; they killed her beloved Adonis. For they sang a delightful hunting song and caused Adonis, Aphrodite's lover, who heard it, to be excited and rushed to hunt. Ares, the god, being Aphrodite's rival, either transformed himself into a boar or, seeing Adonis rushing at a boar, came against him and killed him. And Adonis's blood flowing down turned the anemone, which was previously white, red; for Adonis happened to fall near an anemone. Aphrodite, learning of the tragedy, ran around barefoot, lamenting pitifully, and she herself, pierced by the thorns of a rose, turned the rose red with the flowing blood.
Tzetzes’ On Lycophron 831b:
“Gauas” is etymologized as the dead from the earth being breathed; for the dead are dried by the earth. “Strong city” is said to be strong from the verb “to protect” and “to guard” those who stay in it. “Schoeneidi” because the plant “schoinos” when chewed cleans the teeth and stimulates sexual desire. Arenta is said because it fits two strangers into one marital union, Xene because it makes love. The syntax is as follows: “Menelaus will see” this and this and “the tomb” of “Gauas” the “destroyed by the Muses” - paraphrasing Adonis - the “mourned” and lamented by Aphrodite in this and that way, whoever Adonis was killed by “the plane tree” and the boar “in” “the mixing bowl” and “white” tooth. From saying that he will see the tomb of Adonis, either he means the place where Adonis lies or Byblos or Cyprus; for Adonis was in Byblos and in Cyprus another Adonis, the son of Cinyras, which some who do not know exactly confuse the young men who do not know that the Adonis of Myrra is Byblian, and the one we mentioned is Cypriot. He calls Cyprus the island of Adonis. But it is also badly formed to say “the tomb” and “destroyed by the Muses”; for it was not the tomb, but Adonis who was destroyed by the Muses.
Hera piece based off that one pottery piece
Girlboss!!!
Anyone else remember that gigantomachy vase where a giant was surrendering and Hera was standing on his leg after sweeping them out from under him, about to execute him anyway? Ruthless is mercy 🎶
Olympus best dad and mum some say….
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🍐🐄 Hera Pais, the cow eyed bride🪵🏛
"I sing of golden-throned Hera whom Rhea bare. Queen of the immortals is she, surpassing all in beauty: she is the sister and the wife of loud-thundering Zeus, -- the glorious one whom all the blessed throughout high Olympus reverence and honour even as Zeus who delights in thunder." -Homeric Hymn to Hera
"The presence of a cuckoo seated on the sceptre [of Hera] they explain by the story that when Zeus was in love with Hera in her maidenhood he changed himself into this bird, and she caught it to be her pet [in order to seduce her]." - Pausanias, Description of Greece 2. 17. 4
I’m currently reading "The Transformation of Hera: A Study of Ritual, Hero, and the Goddess in the Iliad" by Joan V. O’Brien. She argues, sometimes speculatively, about the early cult origins of Hera, but I still find it very interesting.
The book suggests that Hera’s early rites in Samos might have portrayed her as arriving annually on a horse drawn chariot at a confluence of waters, where her bathing and binding to a cultic tree were believed to renew all life, presenting her as a goddess of the seasons.
There also seems to be an argument that she had a connection to the Potnia Theron, based on the large animals associated with her and the artifacts found at her temples, such as lions, griffins, and sphinxes. Her association with domestic animals like cows and horses could suggest that she was seen as a tamer of beasts, and her yoking of the bull may be parallel marriage and the "taming and yoking" of the bride.
I find this especially interesting because it aligns with my view of Hera as a goddess who makes things perfect.
In some traditions, it seems that she was worshipped in different life stages with epithets such as Hera Pais (the young maiden before marriage) Hera Teleia (the married woman)
Hera Chēra (the widow or separated woman) I drew her here as Hera Pais, a young maiden, the Kore of Samos, dressed in red and yellow thought to be the colours of bridal wear in antiquity. I would like to draw her again soon, I really enjoyed drawing her but I have to work on drawing animals, the cuckoo looks too much like a pigeon lol
Inktober 12: Young Hera racing.
“Hera’s cult at Olympia was administered by a college of sixteen women chosen from the most venerable and respected matrons of the district. These women organized the Heraia, or games held to honor Hera, concurrently with the quadrennial Olympic games. While women were generally excluded from the Olympic games both as competitors and spectators, the Heraia involved a footrace for girls of three different age categories. They ran in the same stadium as the men and boys, though the track was one-sixth shorter. The winners received a portion of the meat from the cow sacrificed to Hera and a crown of olive.”
Ancient Greek Cults: A Guide by Jennifer Larson.