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the stupidest circle of hell is when you're like oh this ship is SO obviously supported by canon surely everyone must talk about it and then you find out the dedicated popular yaoi is some total bullshit
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you can tell the last movie had a different director just by all the changes they made in it bc takamatsu & fujita duo would never disrespect sorachi like that
being a shounen mangaka must be so tough bc you dont even have full control over your own story and have to compromise with editors and then on top of that anime adaptation comes in and changes it even more. like how much fanservice is enough for you people
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GinTae in Kintama Arc - Manga vs Anime Differences 1
Hi. I'm back with another anime vs manga post. this arc is big and it has a lot of issues. i hope you get smth from here.
also if i sound mad..pls do be informed that I am frustrated by many aspects of the anime adaptation of this arc.
Anime show both Otae and Gintoki's POV which was interesting and a nice touch.
also hhhh in the anime he's doing S-M play with a man instead of a woman.
Okay this is where it starts to get wacky as fck.
In the manga panel, Otae is clearly drawn together with the yorozuya and on the opposite and equal side to Sadaharu and right above otose and co. too.
in the anime by order of appearance
shinpachi, kagura, otae and kyuubei
otose, catherine, tama, gengai, katsura
sadaharu, tsukuyo, sarutobi, hasegawa
First of all pray tell me why the holyfck did kyuubei appear with the Yorozuya first? Not only that but it looked like she was in a unit with Otae. This was where my suspicion of how the anime really loved to favor kyuuta/e started. It's just so illogical. Kyuubei's main interest in life is Otae, not the Yorozuya, even if Gintoki is a dear friend to her. There was absolutely no reason for her to appear with Shinpachi and Kagura first. It's too misleading and blatantly shippy. Kyuubei appeared first before Mdm. Otose, Tama, and Katsura just because whoever made this anime wanted to show her with Otae without regard for who are the most important to Gintoki. There's a reason why she was placed AT THE EDGE of the manga panel in the same manner as Tsukuyo and Sarutobi for fcks sake.
Next I am actually miffed that Sadaharu appeared last. Not only that but he appeared together with the Gintoki simp squad. Also putting Tsukuyo in blatant center is another proof that the anime may have favored Gintoki x Tsukuyo a little to much. They already positioned Sarutobi, Hasegawa and Katsura on the edges (as they should) so why was Tsukuyo treated differently? What is she doing there in the center anyway other than fanservice? Then again, congratulations to the Gi/nT/su and Ky/uuT/ae ppl, I can see where you are coming from now. (throws confetti)
Note that I'm basing all my assumptions on Sorachi's paneling. It's not a coincidence why Sorachi arranged his characters like that in his manga. As we see how this arc progresses, the ones in the center are the most important to Gintoki: Shinpachi, Kagura, Otae, Sadaharu, Tama. Note that by the start of the chapter we already get a clue as to how the arc was going to end and who will be the main solutions to Gintoki's problem for the arc. Moreover Otose, Gengai, Catherine also symbolize home to him. The ones on the edges: Kyuubei, Katsura, Hasegawa, Tsukuyo, Sarutobi where the comrades who figure out his identity last. Come on!
But then the anime said "fck it we do what we want, let's make kyuubei and tsukuyo look more important than they should be, xoxo."
As for this at least the manga and anime panel kinda look the same. I'm bothered by how small and insignificant Otae is though. shrugs
Overall thoughts
I'm just getting started and it doesn't look promising.
I just want to make it clear that this is not hate to kyu/uta/e or g/ints/u. However I also admit that this is a criticism of the directorial decisions of the anime. Most of this is subtle but they still take away the underlying message that Sorachi was already laying out from the start of this arc.
part 1 | part 2 | part 3 | part 4 | part 5 | part 6 | part 7 | part 8 |
this is actually a great post because there are so many more changes in the anime like these ones made simply because of anime staff's favoritism towards a ship. animation director shinji takeuchi is a hardcore gintoki/tsukuyo fan and if you read the manga and compare it to the anime you will notice the pattern. a lot of scenes with otae were cut/toned down/altered (not just the ones showing her relationship with gintoki but also her dynamics with yorozuya and kondou as well) and so many scenes with tsukuyo were added/altered in ways to bring her closer to gintoki.
which i find to be super disrespectful not only to sorachi and his work but also to the takamatsu&fujita director duo who always tried their best to keep the anime as close to the original material as possible for many years. i dont even ship gintoki and otae with any of the characters but the fact that otae's role in the story gets downplayed simply because of some ship bias pisses me off to no end.
...back then, gintama anime worshippers used to sht on me (i'm ukaiknowsbest) for pointing these changes out, calling me a hater and all sorts of ridiculous insults. Even after all these years, it is still disappointing to me how fans keep saying sorachi was the best manga author of all time yet they keep defending the anime producers' choices of completely disregarding/altering the characterization of many of the main characters to push their ships.
Another thing I have beef with these money grabbing jerks is them including Shinsengumi, Kamui in movies with arcs they shouldn't even be in (benizakura movie is notorious for this holysht).
Another unfortunate thing is in Be Forever Yorozuya Movie. Despite Otae being a key plot driver, she didn't have any merch for that or even a proper picture in the promotional materials and Novelization!
My frustration with the anime continuously sidelining her dynamics with gintoki and yorozuya group while relentlessly pushing other dynamic/ships forward hasn't lessened to this day. But what can we do? What's done is done. The producers have already cashed in immensely for these changes. We otae lovers only have the manga as our comfort coz at least there, she shone better.
I am glad you have seen this work of mine and appreciated it. From one gintama to another, thank you 💕
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