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i seriously just saw a TIM say "how using the her app feels" in reference to this comic

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"welcome to our women's safe space!!! rules: no men, no terfs-" so yes men. bye.
wolves in sheep's clothing are real sheep, they say so themselves and it's right there in the name.
religion is so fucking funny the world is just too beautiful there must be a higher entity behind all this. lets oppress women
Genuinely why does every single one hate women
if, for society to continue on, women must be subjugated, then it is not "humanity" that benefits. it's is men.
if women are required/forced to be: pregnant, or subservient to men, to allow for a "family structure" and a birth rate that allows for the continuation of society, then this subjugation does not benefit all of humanity; it benefits men at the direct expense of women.

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the irony of feminists fighting for the right to wear comfortable, non-sexualized clothing while the trans community fights for the right to wear uncomfortable, sexualized clothing isn't lost on me. women want to be treated as humans. men who cosplay being women want to be treated as dolls.
"you guys are so HATEFUL, this super creepy predatory male with an obvious fetish and hatred for women identifies as an innocent precious little snowflake and you won't RESPECT *HER*!!!!"
babe you're in danger. like how do you tell these people they are in danger.
like "oooo what if predatory men really were actually women who weren't predatory" they're not. THEY'RE NOT. what the fuck
its summer so you know what that means, moids throwing tantrums while their mommy girlfriends pester them to wear sunscreen.
back when i was friends with an XY, this fucker ranted about his gf at the time for like an hour straight, because apparently she made him put on spf when they went on a trip together
they had a really big argument over it
the punchline is: the reason she was so insistent on sunscreen in the first place is because she survived skin cancer at age 15
for fuckâs sake
countries where prostitution is legal have higher rates of human trafficking. thatâs like an actual fact. not an opinion or anything. so tbh it seems a bit âswerfyâ to completely ignore that
Why would trafficking increase when you have legalized prostitution.
Because if prostitution is legal, demand increases. And if it is legal, pimps and traffickers have more room to exploit and sell women under the guise of legal sex work.
In fact, in countries where it is legal, pimps and brothel owners are considered sex workers themselves.
Just because you legalize prostitution doesnât mean women are going to be anymore willing to do it, but more men expect to go to prostitutes, so the demand for prostitution increases. Where do you get prostitutes if women arenât willing to be them? you kidnap and traffick them!!Â
Thank you for explaining this so concisely. I always thought trafficking would decrease if prostitution was legalized, so this is good to know.
itâs worth pointing out that Germany, whoâs always touted as very progressive for legalizing prostitution and instituting prostitution unions, has become the human trafficking hub of Europe since those laws were implemented.
if what the Taliban is doing to women was happening instead to a minority racial group, especially if the oppressors were white, iâm just saying, there would be A LOT more outrage.
there would be encampments, huge protests, everything you see with palestine but probably a hundred times more extreme. Weâd be listing the stage of genocide this is, and calling it a second holocaust.
I mean IMAGINE a certain racial groupâs voice is made illegal in public, and they have to wear a HUGE, ridiculous, uncomfortable garment like that. They arenât allowed to leave the house without an (oppressor) escort. Banned from education or employment. No protections from violence and rape, basically less than an animal in law. IMAGINE IF ALL THAT HAPPENED TO A MINORITY RACIAL GROUP. this IS whatâs happening to women.
But itâs just women and itâs just their culture so thereâs nothing we can really do, who cares. Maybe weâll do a march or two, and maybe weâll post about it on twitter, make a few articles. But itâs just women.
THIS!!!!!! âItâs their cultureâ is fucking bullshit. If your culture involves treating women like shit, itâs time to change your culture

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âNo one saw it coming.â Except he had a criminal record for abusing his ex-girlfriend.
âIt couldnât have been prevented.â Except his girlfriend tried to press charges but nothing happened.
when i was a teenager my mother was dating a man who was extremely violent and controlling. he had been arrested multiple times for domestic violence against us, and for assault because he would get in fights with other men. he regularly watched step-daughter porn in public places, openly talked about starting a business where he would sell products made of human hair, skin, and fat, and was known to carry a machete everywhere with him. he ended up murdering two innocent people.
people acted like it was the most unexpected thing ever- talking about his religous upbringing and how his father was a pastor, about how he had run for town office because he cared about the community, about how he attened black lives matter protests so there must be more to the story.
meanwhile all these other people, mainly women and children, had been tormented by him, and not in secret.
there was one super rapey cotton ceiling post i saw once that was so heinous that like i feel like the need to go find it and make everyone look at it to prove that we are not making it up like they really do say shit like that.
sorry for long post but I found it!!!
it just makes me feel crazy that they will deny that anyone has ever perpetuated this cotton ceiling rhetoric when they make posts like this acting like a woman's lack of attraction to them is a problem to be solved. It doesn't matter why a woman doesn't want to fuck you!!! Coming at her like it's some type of debate and trying to convince her that she's a bad person for not having sex with you is sex pest behavior!!!
Here's another one I found while looking for this one where the same user reblogged that conflates allyship with dating and hookups. Maybe that's why women don't want to be your allies anymore!!!!!!
And here's another one where they're just for real just lying and saying we're the ones who are loudly announcing totally unprompted that we don't want to fuck you!!! No!!! You people will pester us about whether or not we'd theoretically fuck you and then you call us hysterical terfs if we say no!!!! Or you'll hear some random women you don't even know mention that she's only into vagina and you'll take that as a personal attack for some reason because you feel completely fucking entitled to a random woman's body!!!!!
like it reminds me of the scenario in this comic where this person gets offended that a female celebrity that doesn't know they exist would not theoretically fuck them. Like you realize that's a completely normal situation for lesbians since most female celebrities being straight??? who the fuck caresssssssss
Yeah I canât imagine why he never hears lesbians say theyâre grossed out by vulvas. Weird. I canât think of a possible reason that lesbians donât say that. Oh well.
âThis marginalized group of womenâ are men.
Even if they werenât, dating is not activism. You are allowed to reject anyone at any time for any reason. Transphobia is not solved by dating trans people, no matter how much they claim it would.
we've shown these people dozens of posts with thousands of likes and reblogs and shares proving that this is a real thing ppl believe, and instead of admitting that they were wrong, they move the goalpost to "okay it exists but its only a small part of the community. NOBODY says this irl."
wrong! my bisexual ex said to my face that lesbians who won't fuck transwomen are transphobic. we had a huge debate about it that ended with me breaking up with her.
the "cotton ceiling" has real life consequences for lesbians! my own girlfriend believed in lesbian rape rhetoric! this is not some online hyper-niche corner of the internet, this is affecting actual women!!!
I saw this from the female separatism subreddit & the responses are some of the biggest reasons for separatism et al (or extinction if I'm being candid here). Moids cant be reformed they are fully aware of the hell they force women to live in. MaIe achievement & happiness is rooted in female exploitation & life. Their glory days are based on our horrific days. No amount of love, kindness or facts will change maIes and we cannot happily or even neutrally coexist with them.
Main points across answers:
Many want to experiment but not permanently be women
They dont want to be in constant danger or lose their autonomy at the hands of maIes for merely existing
They dont want to deal with childbirth (& periods)
They dont want to have to share spaces with species much stronger than them with ulterior motives
It makes me go crazy seeing people give moids benefit of doubt for their evil like "maIes just dont understand", "we need to teach maIes", or claiming that maIe violence is a result of maIes struggling with (expressing) their feelings. I get that women love maIes and it can be hard to imagine that people can intentionally be so evil but it is what it is. MaIes have no problems expressing themselves, abusing women is what maIes choose to do because they enjoy & benefit from it - that is their expression.
MaIes see the same news of women being abused, raped, and killed like we do except rather than be disheartened or alarmed they're either apathetic or satisfied. It isn't aliens that's committing GBV it's maIes & maIes have no problem reminding women of this when women anger them (such as rape threats & threatening women they'll end up on the news/true crime). The victim blaming, denial, and derailment of misogyny is part of the game to keep the system alive, they know the events occured & are a systemic occurence they just dont care. Hell not only do they not care, they rejoice in it or get off on it.
MaIes set up environments that work in their favour which simultaneously ensures that women will lose. They know women are set up to live in damn near impossible conditions for us. It's normalised for women to defenselessly share personal & private spaces with beings much more stronger than them with ulterior motives for us, it's trap. It's interesting how these moids aren't saying that they'll just cover up and *poof* harrassment gone, or they'll just pick a nice guy & they'll be okay. MaIes know the net negative they are towards women.
MaIes know that childbirth is a painful process & what do they do? Demand it happens and make it even MORE painful for women. MaIes that impregnate women do not love or care for them. Pregnancy itself is dangerous & sometimes lethal, often comes with a range of health issues, to cause someone to be in that condition especially in a environment where abortions are illegal is reckless & unloving. Now imagine how sinister & full of hatred one has to be to impregnate someone and abuse them on top of that. Many women risk their health & lives to reproduce with a Y and they get abused by said Y instead of being taken care of. Deranged.
Realising that maIes are aware of the evil they inflict is one of the things that radicalised me. It isn't a miscommunication or ignorance issue, their violence is intended. They want control. The cruelty is the point. Instead of wasting time & energy trying to change maIes or hope that they "understand" one day, focus on yourself & other women (who prioritise women). Moids aren't oblivious to female pain they enjoy it. A lot of women treat maIe evil like it's a mistake on maIes part but it's calculated terrorism. I know that this will go over many womens heads as they refuse to hold strong negative sentiments about moids as a collective so if you're not a woman like that, take this post as a sanity check. You aren't crazy, it isn't all in your head.
Adding honourable comment from the separatist subreddit:
TLDR: Don't waste time debating or educating moids. Focus on (building for) yourself & other women who aren't maIe apologists.
Few others in my gallery I couldn't include in the main post:
Notice the apathy these men talk with about all the horrible suffering women have to endure, as if it's someone else's problem, as if it isn't their mothers, daughters, sisters, and spouses experiencing these horrors first-hand 24/7 trapped on this planet with them. Notice that "sucks to be themđ¤ˇââď¸" attitude as they casually list all the pains women go through. The cold, detached awareness they have of half the population's misery. I don't know how women convince themselves "not all men". Clearly men collectively prefer patriarchy and want to maintain the status quo. Women can stay deluding themselves but reality is reality.
Men are aware of their sociopolitical and physical advantages that they hold over women and that being male in a male dominated world shields them from the majorities of rape, sexual abuse, sexual harassment and male violence victimization in general. They are aware of womenâs reality, and yet they express no remorse, no empathy, no compassion or regard for womenâs humanity and have no desire to make amends or remedy the damage they cause women on a global scale.
This proves men are largely self-serving and misogynistic, attempts to humanize men or consort with them are better spent enriching your own life or those of other women.
Reminds me of a therapist who worked with abusive men and asked them what they gained from the abuse. Lots of things, obviously. Their only reasons for not being violent were personal consequences to them. Not one word about women deserving better.
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Like a patriarchy microcosm.
On Womanhood
Thirteen Things Womanhood Is Not:
A sliding scale where some women are more or less womanly than others
A welcoming open door club that anyone can claim membership to
A special exclusive club full of wonderful privileges whose existing members decide who does and doesnât belong
Wearing long hair, makeup, dresses or otherwise performing femininity
Being good at feelings and domestic tasks and bad at driving and math
Acting cute, seductive, giggly, sexy, coy, submissive or flirty
A soft, warm, sensitive, nurturing, emotional or moody personality
An interest in cute, pretty, soft, frilly or sparkly things
A certain mindset, outlook or way of thinking thatâs naturally ingrained in all womenâs brains
A magical mystical undefinable state of being or sense of âsisterhoodâ
A special feeling or instinct that comes from deep down in your soul that you âjust knowâ
A costume for men to wear
An identity for men to claim
Two Things Womanhood Is:
A biological fact
The state of being an adult female human who was born into a female human body
And thatâs all. Thatâs it. Everything else is irrelevant.
âYouâre obsessed with genitalsâ coming from the crowd who literally champion getting surgery to modify and even remove genitalia really is something

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Here are several things (simplified as much as possible) that made me realize that TRAs use the same tactics as MRAs:
The use of slurs to silence women:
âTERFâ is used against anyone who is gender critical, even if they are not feminist, just like âfeminaziâ is used by MRAs against any woman who speaks about womenâs issues even when they're not feminists.
The instrumentalization of suicide rates as a guilt-tripping tactic, often without serious evidence or context.
The hijacking of feminist language:
calling women âbio-essentialistâ for acknowledging sex-based oppression, in the same way MRAs misuse feminism to justify violence or entitlement (âI thought you wanted equality, so why canât I hit back / why should I pay for dates?â).
Appearance-based attacks: âTERFs are ugly, old, and jealousâ mirrors âfeminazis are ugly, unfuckable, and bitter.â
Death and rape threats used to intimidate and silence.
Spamming feminist hashtags with porn, silencing women, and engaging in doxxing.
Deliberately incoherent debates meant to exhaust or provoke:
-if a woman gets angry: sheâs âhystericalâ;
-if she doesn't answer anymore: she âhas no arguments.â
General homophobia and specific lesbophobia:
-lesbians are called transphobic for not accepting penis, labeled âvaginosexualâ or fetishistic which ultimately repeats the same misogynistic idea that lesbians âjust need dick.â
âNot all trans womenâ, used in the exact same way as âNot all menâ:
a rhetorical move meant to derail structural criticism by reframing it as a personal attack, effectively shutting down any discussion about systemic violence.
- The classic violence-denial script: âIt never happenedâ - âIf it happened, it was just a random weirdoâ -âAnd if it wasnât random, then the victim deserved it.â
A well-known tactic used to discredit victims and protect perpetrators.
Iâm still kinda astonished they really had no qualms offering disproportionately autistic kids (who they know hate change, have issues visualising the future and are usually emotionally immature) puberty blockers. Like obviously theyâre gonna say yes, trans identifying or not.
I'm pretty sure this is a huge part of why I identified as trans when I did, I hated the changes my body was going through and wanted them to stop. Being trans was promised as an alternative that would fix that discomfort (and all my mental problems!)
i hope this doesnât make sound insane lmao. the scientific community has been sterilizing, abusing, and experimenting on neurodivergent & mentally ill people for fucking eons. theyâve just found a new âpolitically correctâ way to do the same bullshit theyâve always been doing to us.
itâs not much of a shock at all that these dodgy medical treatments promoted as âgender affirming careâ are mostly being given to people that either have one or more mental illnesses or are neurodivergent. itâs just the same medical malpractice done to the same communities weâve seen dozens of times throughout history repackaged as legitimate healthcare for like the umpteenth time.