百毒不侵

Warm/cool, comfy, well-built and well-structured, aesthetic grass huts, but yes, grass huts. Simple fundamentals and strong foundations, elaborated on over time, with attention and care, experiment and play. But yes. Grass. Hut. The horror.

We would have clean water, healthy food, many libraries, beautiful places to read them in, fast transport to and from, safety to enjoy it all in. We would have places to learn to do and maintain all of that in, and how to continue to improve them. But yes, if it fit the location, the huts would be grass.

They'd be large enough to house the community and what the community needed, and also what the community wanted, and who knows what else, and then more space because really who knows what else, but yes, the grass would be huts. And the grass huts that would not work best as grass, would not be grass. And the grass huts that would not work best as hus, would not be huts. The grass huts would be grass huts, yes.

Even without men around to fuck shit up, and take up time, the grass huts would be grass huts. Disgusting. Earthen. Dirt-y. Boring. Renewable. Common. Vulgar. Living. Dull. Fitting. Appropriate. Something almost anyone could do. Easy. Slutty. Pathetic. Truly womanish.

See, every time you harvest something, you take the nutrients in that item away from the soil, and they go somewhere else. When I put a banana peel in my compost bin, I think (a little gleefully) about how I've just added an exotic, different profile of nutrients to my own property--but I also think about that distant banana plantation that lost tons of nutrients per year to US grocery stores, and I wonder what they replaced those nutrients with.

The farmer across my field grows corn, which gets harvested for feed. Corn is a nitrogen-hungry crop. Every year, that corn sucks up nutrients, which get harvested and shipped away. The farmer, being a conventional farmer, mostly replaces those with a conventional fertilizer. Nitrogen is often applied to fields in the form of ammonia fertilizer, which is made via a process that binds nitrogen in the air with hydrogen from natural gas. This feels like a vast resource, but of course we know it's not inexhaustible and not without cost.

Ideally, said farmer does soil tests and applies a carefully considered amount of ammonia. It is taken up by the growing plants and relatively little is lost. Possibly (often), though, some of the ammonia is leached out via rain and ends up in waterways, where it causes plant overgrowth and algal blooms, which harm the waterways in several ways, and turn those nutrients from a resource into a contaminant.

Meanwhile, the corn is also uptaking a variety of other nutrients from the soil which the commercial fertilizer is NOT replacing. Year by year, those nutrients get shipped off to distant feedlots and depleted in the soil. Eventually, those nutrients are gone from my neighbor's field and, quite possibly, languishing in a manure lagoon somewhere in, say, Indiana, where one can only hope it's properly treated and made into compost. But, you know. Not necessarily.

When I buy compost at the store, it's usually based in either cow manure or "forest products". Hopefully, depending on brand, those forest products MIGHT be collected municipal yard waste. Which is pretty good. Those suburbanites don't want their leaves, I do, win/win.

Except that because those suburbanites raked their yard waste, they now need at some point to fertilize their trees, shrubs, and turf grass. Meanwhile, they've eliminated habitat for the many insects that use leaf litter to either overwinter or reproduce. They may not be counting the costs, but the costs don't stop existing.

The ebb and flow of nutrients is something that, in the current system, goes utterly unregarded by most of the people taking part in the process. Even gardeners bring nutrients onto their soils mostly without thinking about the places those nutrients came from. I think in a sustainable world, that needs to change.

Breeders coping in the comments 💀

lmao they actually believe this paper will cause genocide somehow, and blaming rich people, anything but holding themselves responsible

“It means that adding more people no longer translates into faster growth. When we examined this phase, we found the global population is likely to peak somewhere between 11.7 and 12.4 billion people by the late 2060s or 2070s if current trends hold.”

Professor Bradshaw says this upper limit is dangerous and has only been possible to date because human societies have relied on fossil fuels and drained natural resources faster than nature can replace them.

“The truly sustainable population is much lower and closer to what the world supported in the mid-twentieth century. Our calculations show a sustainable global population closer to about 2.5 billion people if everyone were to live within ecological limits and comfortable, economically secure living standards,” he says."

they don't care about quality of life (and what are nonrenewable resources lol), just breeding more baybees 🤪

It’s undefeated, I wish life was worth living like the natalists claim, but the truth is that most of them don’t even have any arguments, they just reproduce and rut like animals because they follow the script like everyone else, they don’t think about their children as people, as adults, they just want a prop to dress up and take cute baby pictures of and complete the milestones they are supposed to complete because that’s what life is and they haven’t the capacity to think beyond it 🤷🏻 which you can’t really blame them for because society is structured around reproduction so living an unconventional life is difficult and humans are wired to be pretty conformist, point is, most humans are slaves to their primal instincts.

The pro natalist arguments tend to be pretty subjective, they say life is worth living, however pain is guaranteed and happiness is not. There isn’t any reason to gamble with someone’s future by taking it upon yourself to create a person who has the potential to experience the worst horrors this world has to offer. You really can’t go wrong with anti natalism.

I won’t even get into the continuation of the species and legacy talking points because they’re retarded.

The most compelling argument I can think of is that suicide is an option and if your life sucks you are free to opt out which sort of addresses the problem with the non consensual nature of being born, there might be value in being given the chance to experience life, some people are certainly grateful for the opportunity and live good lives, and if death is truly the end (meaning you stop existing and you will no longer have any qualia/memories) then being born is pretty meaningless and harmless since you will return to non existence as if nothing happened. However to this I say—suicide is terrifying, and it’s pretty fucked up that one must kill themselves (often brutally) to escape a life they never asked for. Suicide takes confronting your own mortality, going against your own body’s instincts, lots of physical pain as well as emotional pain of leaving everything and everyone behind because quitting the game is harder than never joining.

Also we just don’t know for sure if death is the end, we can’t know for sure what awaits after death, so again, you risk subjecting your children to eternal torture just because you wanted an orgasm and baby pictures? (Assuming you also create the soul with the person) A lot of natalists are religious people that believe in exactly that sort of afterlife, it really blows my mind that they don’t consider this before having children but I guess that would be overestimating their ability to use their brains.

I don’t see anti natalism ever becoming a global movement unless humanity’s intelligence evolves to that point, but the fact that IQ has stopped increasing with the newest gen, kind of leads me to believe that there is a natural cap that prevents species extinction (to be clear I do think the drop in IQ is a result of circumstances but it does double as a cap too), so anti natalism is a personal choice, you’re not boycotting the continuation of the species, but you’re also not becoming responsible for the suffering of another being which is enough.