did I ever mention how much I love the appletree bite scene? genuinely one of the most impactful moments of the entire series.
like. they are far from the only instance of consensual blood drinking, but what really sets them apart is the buildup
Apo and Martyn are both practical peopleâthey donât make a super big deal of it in the scene itself. but when you consider all that led up to it, the fact that this moment has been consistently foreshadowed since session four (quite positively as consistently foreshadowed as any scene between two specific characters CAN be, in an unscripted series like vsmp)
itâs insane. itâs devastating. itâs literally everything I wanted from them since, again, motherfucking session four
and it gets even more haunting when you know how it ends
because they were so, so close.
never will a scene truly illustrate âcautiously, but with admirationâ (cc!Martynâs own words on v!Martynâs opinion of Apo) quite like this one
#the way theyâre both grossed out once Apo lets go!!!
That right there highlights one of MY favorite parts about Martyn and Apoâs friendshipâheâs one of the few people who never tries to sugarcoat vampirism around her. So many other conversations where anyone talks to Apo about what being a vampire is like, the other personâs talking about how great it is or even just that itâs not as bad as they thought. But for Apo, vampirism WAS and IS as bad as she thought, and Martyn actually acknowledges that. He agrees drinking blood is gross, he compares the white in their hair to bird poop instead of complimenting it like everyone else did. In a town full of people claiming one of Apoâs worst experiences was a good thing, sheâs got at least one person on her side.
If only sheâd been able to pull her own blood back out of him when he let her drink.
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There's something fun about watching different povs of the Bannerfall finale because in many of the ones I watched so far chat at the start was all like, Nom's such a hypocrite, bad guy, we kill Nominalgravy, and then at the end they're all noooooo Nom don't dieeeeeee no pleaseeeeeee and idk the switchup is kind of funny to me.
Though I will say it surprises me to see at least the first part in povs like Owain or 4C which are characters that did not want Nom to die, so chat calling for his death while watching a character that they knew would be at least somewhat hurt if Nom did die is just kind of a surprise to me. Either they like to see their blorbo suffer or they just hate the guy idk loll
On the other hand I'm surprised that at least in the povs I've watched so far there isn't a single person (not only referring to chat, also to the characters) that seemed upset at Sausage's death. I haven't seen Cam's pov yet but I've heard he is upset, but the only other pov where I've seen people be upset is Sausage's which I mean, fair enough, but if you haven't seen his or Cam's pov you probably just don't care that the guy died.
Which in a way is kind of sad because I might've only seen his finale but there was a moment at the very end that imo basically did a fairly good conclusion to his character arc and the kind of person he was, at least as far as I (someone that basically only watched Nom's pov for the other streams) can tell.
After he's dead, when Cam is calling for him, he tries to talk to him but of course he can't; but one of the things (or maybe actually the last?) that he says to him is to go save Nom. Now, I might not be an expert on his character due to, again, only seeing his finale, but to me it shows something nice about his character arc. The whole time before that, Sausage has always called for Nom's death (the same way Blue Kingom called for his but well). Even in front of Katie, someone he knew would not want Nom to die, he said it. I'm not saying he didn't care about his kingdom because that would be a lie, but he did have some sort of minor detachment when it came to their relationship with the other kingdom's members, because he wanted them all dead to make sure the war ended. And when you want to kill a whole kingdom you can't really care about how Katie (and 4C) care about Nom, or how distraught Ser Bek would be if Eloise died, or any other friendship of any sort existing between the members of the different kingdoms. When he was fighting everyone after he became the Creaking King, he often told Red Kingdom members to stand aside, because he wasn't targetting them; once again showing that yes he did care about Red, but his wanting Blue dead didn't make him stop attacking either.
That only changed after he died. Upon realising he couldn't fight anymore, and Red clearly would not fight Blue, he finally acknowledged the relationships between the kingdoms... and how much losing Nom would hurt Katie and 4C, and he cared a lot about them, so he asks Cam to try and save him because even if he personally didn't like the guy, he always cared about Red and letting Nom die would mean hurting people he cared about. Sausage knew Nom would probably die, and he can't just move on before at least trying to do one last thing to help his beloved kingdom members not be hurt, to not suffer.
He knew the pain of losing family and upon realising that was soon to happen to people he cared about he tries to prevent it in the only way he can.
I think it's a very good ending to his character arc, at least as far as I know about the guy, which isn't a lot (for all I know I might be totally wrong and the bf!Sausage fans could come after me but uhhh this is my understanding of his character from watching one single stream I'm not some sort of magical all-knowing being man I just kind of went with what I got from that stream I only hope it's not fully ooc).
This crossed my dash right after I finished watching all four of my Bannerfall POVs, and I kept thinking about the Nom and Sausage comparisons too. 3/4 of the POVs I watched were Red Kingdom (not on purpose, it just ended up that way) and it was really interesting how Red in general argued against Graecie when she was calling for Sausage to be captured (or killed if necessary). Because amongst each other, several Red members had been talking about Sausage being dangerous, how to stop him before he hurt more than just Blue. But once someone from Blue starts saying the same thing, they all immediately defend Sausage and try to argue that Nomâs just as bad. Graecie eventually struck a point that Red couldnât counter with the creaking hearts Sausage gave the King and how he ate more resin than Nom, and after Blue left at least a few Reds (I know Apo pulled Cherri aside) concluded that both Sausage and Nom needed to be stopped.
The difference between Sausage and Nom wasnât their motivesâthey both wanted to protect specific people they cared about by wiping out their enemies. The book Sausage left behind (seen at the end of Frogueâs POV) proves that was still his goal all the way to the end. The difference was how they went about it. Sausage thought he could use the Creaking curse as a weapon, keep it aimed at Blue while he fed it more power. Nom knew the Creaking curse was a threat by itself, and put himself between it and everyone else. He might have initially taken the resin to get stronger and counter the plague, but everything he did about his creaking-ness after that was focused on containing it, restraining himself if it tried to take over, and bringing it down with him if he had to.
I donât think either one of them was a hypocrite. They both had their own ideas of what the Creaking curse could and would doâeven though Nomâs was closer to the truth than Sausageâs (plenty of Red players got downed by the Creaking zombies and other things Sausage did), their reasons for taking the resin were almost the same. And though Graecie was entirely right about Sausageâs methods being a danger to everyone, Redâs defense of his motives was still valid.
You also hit on something I hadnât considered about Sausage never realizing it hurts people to lose friends and relatives until he was dead himself. Heâd been able to communicate with the dead (to an extent) all along, so maybe it didnât really hit him that most people canât do that until he realized Cam couldnât hear him. For Sausage, someone dying just meant they couldnât fight anymore, they werenât goneâŚexcept for everyone else, they were.
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45% chance itâs another murder monster machine scheme
Even without the Datastream story, Hermes fits him so well.
God of thievesâso many of Martynâs characters have been some kind of rogue or bandit or otherwise a scoundrel.
God of messengers and communicationâheâs played at least two different postmen (Haery and his Misadventures character) and I think he ran a newspaper and/or a radio station on a server at one point
Plus, Hermes is generally portrayed as a quick-witted trickster. I donât know how much of that applies to on-the-spot puns and rhyming (that may be more Apolloâs domain, and Iâve seen compelling arguments for Martyn to play Apolloâs champion too) but Iâm sure he could work it in.
I think just post canon cleo and pearl should stumble into nasty arguments and pearl should say she never wanted to be turned and cleo should say she wouldâve turned pearl regardless and they should get upset with each other. because letâs be honest there would be serious ups and downs with how much theyâve both experienced
ALSO to add onto this: Pearl said outright that she would have fought to the death rather than be turned, and she's killed before so that's a real threat. She was on an incredibly low amount of hearts, which in universe means she was seriously injured a number of times, and was still throwing herself at fights because of what she believes in. She stepped in front of a blade to protect Cleo. She ultimately died executing Cleo's plan. Pearl has to abandon her life goal of avenging her parent's to be Oakhurst's guardian and prevent another massacre for eternity. That's not going to be easy for her.
Meanwhile, Cleo was a total coward. She never protected anyone, despite what she promised when talking to Pyro. She outright let Owen(I think?) kill Pearl at one point without stepping in because she wanted Pearl to learn not to come back to the castle. Cleo takes a lot of pains to not be on anyone's bad side if they can help it, even if it means being a duplicitous hypocrite (which I say with love, V!Cleo is my favorite Vampires character). They work with the coven, colluding to turn Pearl despite knowing Pearl doesn't want to be turned, being one of the only people to be happy that Avid was dead, antagonizing Apo, etc. They get Doc's hope up for a cure despite not believing one exists. They spill everyone's secrets constantly. Cleo's plan is the thing that saves everyone, and it requires sacrifices from a number of people, but notably not themself. They do have to sacrifice in the end, in that they have to abandon their promise to never kill again to kill Legundo, but their actual plan wouldn't require them to give anything up. Hell, Cleo could have been cured if they wanted, their sire was dead. They make the choice to stay with Pearl in the end, but we already know that Cleo sees being turned as an honor from their backstory, so they probably didn't want to be cured in the first place.
Wow. I strongly (though respectfully) disagree with all of this.
Pearl was a hero in search of a cause. Oakhurst gave her one. Cleo gave her one. Cleo saying they would have turned Pearl regardless was bluster and performance for the other vampires (her version of "Sookie is mine!").
And just because Cleo didn't use violence doesn't make them a coward. Cleo was thrust directlyâand against their willâinto the center of the plot, as the only "adult" in the room and as someone who was trusted by both sides. A lot of people (especially those with her background) would have collapsed under that pressure. Others would have run. Instead, Cleo rose to the occasion and maneuvered everyone into a plan where almost everybody could get out alive (don't you dare put Ren and Martyn's death on their shoulders).
Am I saying that, over the course of an eternity, the two of them would never have an ugly fight where they said ugly and hurtful things? No, of course not. But at the end of the day, whether platonic or romantic, post-credits v!Cleo and v!Pearl care and truly value each other and find purpose seeing themselves through the other's eyes. Their good days outnumber the bad 100:1.
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Sometimes when bf!Cherri gets turned tiny by magic, they will have bf!Apo carry them around to wherever Cherri wants. Cherri might even climb onto Apoâs hair to try to direct her to where to go, like in Ratatouille. It doesnât really work but Apo gives in and pretends just to make Cherri happy. Cherri loves to mess with Apo by having them walk around in circles, have them take her somewhere they should not go (she pouts and make puppy eyes if Apo says no), or has Apo launch them up in the air with their special ability.
Would the knights and rogues use the existing knight abilities and rogue perks, or have their own? I could see Joel using Nomâs powers because they both use a similar âthe best defense is a good offenseâ PVP style, and Ren would have Cherriâs Fire Infusion because heâs canonically who she inherited it from. Pearl could have Apoâs Shooting Star because itâs moon themed, but the rest Iâm not as sure about.
For the rogues, I can see Etho or Tango using Maeâs traps, and Grian could have the new Avian perk they added to the Patreon version (pesky bird!) Scar could have Kittyâs feline perk in honor of Jellie.
Part 7 of Series Where I Make Various Vampires SMP Characters Out Of Tinfoil Until I Lose Motivationâ˘
It's V!Owen!
He was forced to be part of the group photo and he's not happy about it
(Other parts can be found here)
An interesting challenge with this series has been trying to give every character a unique face. I've made sure to make different eyes, noses and mouths. With Owen, I wanted to get his face shape right as well. It took some extra effort, but I think it turned out great :D
A few years, maybe a decade after the events of Oakhurst, when Pearl and Cleo had finally gotten the castle all set up and filled in the way they wantedâŚPearl came back from a bat flight and asked Cleo if the castle and bridge would perhaps look better on the other side of the island.
Oh my god, no đ
Poor Cleo has to deal with Pearl saying this same thing at least every couple years
I assume you meant Cleo says no each time, but itâs even funnier to imagine that theyâre saying yes and Pearl just keeps moving the castle. Imagine Scottâs reaction when he comes back for one of his visits!
Ah, but youâre forgetting that chase in ep8 when she was basically âthe fish that got awayâ. V!Apoâs just really good at navigating water in general, with or without a boat.
Iâm not sure I agree with 100% of the placings on this tier list (there was that one scene where Owen dove into the river just to monologue about vampires not needing to breathe) but it does make Apoâs escape really funny so I still like it. The entire coven who was chasing Apo are all in the bottom two tiers except for Shelby.
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And a relative of mine saw it and asked âAre they getting married?â
After I stopped laughing, I explained that they are both gay but not for each other, and Pyroâs their intended next meal, not an officiant. But I can see why she thought that.
okay, Pantheon SMP is Greek-inspired, with Apo directly referencing 'representing a god' in her tweet. this could mean a lot of things, but there's 13 Olympians and 13 confirmed players, so I made this (and it's my way of manifesting a Pyro & Drift teamup)
Re your tags: I get being disappointed that Hestia isnât in this list, BUT consider: Hestia as the goddess of âhearth and homeâ has a champion who stayed home while these thirteen went to wherever the series takes place. Someone warm, someone associated with fire perhaps.
Someone that the champion of Aphrodite might fall head over heels for.
ive always been curious about the physics of silver blocks in vampires smp, like could you hypothetically make a vampire pinball machine where it flings a player into another block of silver then another. what if the humans won via vampire pinball machine
Shelby Is Not Naive, Or: Everyone Cares Too Much About Scott Goldsmith
Shelby fully expects the people of Oakhurst to kill her at the first opportunity. Shelby is so invested in the coven and so willing to excuse the flaws of other vampires because she has bought into the idea that the humans can and will hurt her at the first opportunity. There are many reasons for this, but Scott Goldsmith is not one of them.
Scott is her bestie because he stands still and says nice things while everyone else is running around introducing her to new and exciting forms of torment nexus. It is a âluigi wins by doing nothingâ ass situation.
Once Shelby is turned, it becomes nearly impossible for her to talk to a human without being threatened. Many social interactions from the very instant she walks back into town after the fishing trip are shadowed by someone openly planning to hurt or kill vampires.Â
Avid tries to test if sheâs repelled by silver and then starts building a jail cell in front of her. Apo isnât directly threatening, but basically comes to Shelby with the hypothetical âwhat if there was an evil vampireâ. And then they emphasize the importance of keeping a stake at hand.Â
Shelby asks Ren if theyâll really have to fight each other, and Ren says that itâs just the way of the world. Sausage emphasizes the point by yelling âstab them all until theyâre dead!â, which isnât really a great thing to hear when you are one of the âthemâ in question.
Eventually, Apo gets turned, and most of the vampires convene at the beacon, where Martyn burns her alive.
Let me repeat that: she burns alive.Â
The video editing emphasizes this as a big deal. Shelbyâs narration in the aftermath concludes that âif i asked for a chance to talk, they would have just killed me without a second thought.â From Shelbyâs perspective, they did just kill her without a second thought. It is the climax of their episode 3, and one of the first things Shelby mentions in episode 4. It is a major turning point for the character, with good reason.
As far as Shelby is concerned, the vampire vs human conflict began with her experiencing a horrific death for the grand crime of crouching next to a beacon.Â
From this point forward, non threatening interactions with humans vanish almost entirely.Â
The only conversation Shelby has with a human is episode 4 is her face to face with Avid, which has high points and low points. The low points include Avid telling her about staking his partner because she attacked him.
Shelby, does, however, visit the town later, where she finds Avid burning her house down.
And then Legundo reads the cure book in front of the houseâs ashes.Â
Legundo also scolds Avid for burning down the house, but Shelby misses that part. In fact, Shelby missed all of the pro Shelby comments made in the town around that time.Â
According to the post series creatorâs commentary, (which i canât link because twitch deletes old vods so it probably no longer exists aajfas;llllldg) this isnât even a matter of clever editing- Shubble was legitimately out of range for all of the parts of the story where people agreed that they wanted to help Shelby.Â
In episode 5, she is approached by a group of Drift, Cleo, and Pearl. Shelby is surrounded, and asks them to put their swords away. Pearl takes a minute to do so, and when she does she switches to a bottle of holy water. Shelby backs away and Pearl moves forward.Â
The start of this conversation very much has shades of an interrogation: âwhy do you look so different? Did you eat truffle?âÂ
Shelby tells them about being burnt alive, and the response she gets from Cleo is âbut you got betterâ. Which sucks, and serves as an ironic mirror for the way that Scott and Owen are dismissive about the trauma involved with turning people. Both factions are expecting Shelby to just walk off the wrongs done to them, but the Oakhurst faction is openly threatening future harm to Shelby. Â
Of the three of them, Drift is the most supportive. The conversation improves from there, and some nice things are said, but Shelby was still threatened. It was still the preamble to the nice and productive part of the talks.Â
Then she has the meeting with Avid where he asks to be turned, which goes fairly well but ends with Avid being decidedly non human. Also Owen replaced one of Avidâs messages to Shelby with a death threat, so Shelby was still threatened over it.Â
Episode 6 has the Oakhurst invasion where all of the vampires visit Oakhurst and Pearl gets chased around. Shelby doesnât really talk to anyone here, but she sure does get to hear Pearl make a generalized threat. Because Shelby can never catch a break.
We also see another instance of Shelby assuming that the townies are after her: her narration says âi thought Pearl was chasing meâ
Then thereâs a conversation with Sausage. Sausage pulls out a stake because of course he does.Â
Then Drift pulls Shelby aside, and they have a lovely chat where there are no threats of bodily harm. However, Drift is a vampire, so it doesnât count. Rip.Â
When Avid starts talking about the cure, Shelbyâs immediate assumption is that if Avid asks to be cured, the humans will stake her without a second thought. She also is the one to suggest sabotaging the cure for the sake of protecting herself and the other vampires.Â
Episode 7 sees Shelby dealing with humans twice, and both of them are decidedly hostile interactions
The first bit of human contact comes when the vampires burn down the walls of Oakhurst. This is, naturally, open combat. Shelby makes a point of targeting Martyn.
Her second human interaction in episode 7 is running into Abolish, who promptly introduces her to the Veylocke murder box. In other words, Shelby is stunned, rendered immobile and helpless, and executed in cold blood. It is not an easy death.
Abolish even acknowledges that she didnât do anything, and then kills her anyway.Â
episode 8 is the finale, where she fights some humans, hides from humans, eventually has a truce with humans for the first time ever, and then wanders off into the sunset with Drift and Scott.
Thatâs basically all of Shelbyâs major human interactions post episode 3. There is never an instance where speaking to a human is not linked with being threatened by a human after that point.Â
For the most part, this is entirely the result of the people of Oakhurstâs own priorities and character choices, but there is one vampire that tries to make sure that Shelby canât talk to the humans. Someone that tries to isolate her, someone that uses threats, someone that is willing to lie to keep Shelby in the castle and away from town.Â
That person is Owen.Â
Owen interferes with Shelby speaking to townsfolk three times, to mixed results: he joins the conversation with Apo and successfully diverts them from trying to convince Shelby sheâs wanted in town; he replaces Avidâs letter with a threatening message, but Avid manages to set up a meeting with Shelby and clear the air with her anyway; and he appears in the Pearl-Drift-Cleo meeting with Shelby in episode 5, which arguably improves the situation because he took the conversation in a useful direction and Shelby had already felt threatened anyway.
âŚactually, all three of these things happen in episode 5. Owen has a very brief window of being invested in the coven in this particular way. He does some pretty nasty lying in that window, though.Â
While this could be an interesting plot thread, Owenâs contributions are something of a cigarette in a burning warehouse. Shelby got killed twice as collateral damage, and both deaths were exceptionally traumatic. No amount of intercession on Owenâs part is going to speak louder than the wrongs done to Shelby by the humans themselves. No amount of lying on Oakhurstâs behalf is more damning then Oakhurstâs own failure to address the damage theyâve done in any way. Heâs burying a relationship so far underground it is already in hell.Â
Even seemingly minor things like Pearlâs tendency to casually arm herself do more to damage Oakhurstâs reputation then Owen is really capable of- there is a direct line of cause and effect between Pearl saying she has a stake and Shelby assuming that Pearl is chasing her down. Shelby is rightfully skeptical of the claims Owen makes about other people, but when someone else is making those kinds of statements, she tends to believe them.Â
And then thereâs Shelbyâs backstory.Â
Shelbyâs backstory, where she is isolated from her entire community growing up. Where people she considered friends and neighbors didnât care about her in turn. Where nobody had even done something as basic as telling her that sheâs fun to be around.Â
 Of course Shelby thinks that Oakhurst is willing to write her off at the drop of a hat. Thatâs what her hometown did.Â
In conclusion
1: the town is not blameless in the Oakhurst vs Castle conflict. They have done real harm to the Coven, and most of it has fallen on their friendliest and least aggressive member.
2: Shelby is indeed afraid and isolated, but the bulk of that fear and isolation is generated and maintained by the people of Oakhurst themselves. The one time Scott had an opportunity to sabotage one of Shelbyâs outside relationships, he chooses not to.
3: Scott is Shelbyâs first friend, ever, and the feeling is mutual. This is a key component of why Shelby is Like That.Â
4: The answer to most gripes regarding vsmpâs story arc and ending is Shelby. Why did Scott live and Pyro die? Shelby. Why did Scott suddenly pivot to pacifism? Shelby. Why canât the humans just wipe out the coven and call it a day? Shelby. Why was the coven a legitimate social structure in the first place? Thatâs also Shelby. Itâs Shelby all the way down.
In Shelbyâs story, Scott is the prize she wins for her kindness and Pyro becomes the avatar of all of the senseless violence she has suffered.Â
Shelbyâs character arc is one of being the collateral damage of other peopleâs agendas so frequently that she becomes convinced that she must use violence herself. This culminates in her killing the most direct and personal threat to her physical safety, which is Pyro. Shelbyâs other character arc is about seeking peace and companionship despite the bloodshed around her. This culminates in her turning her closest companion from the path of violence, and that companion happens to be Scott. Scott and Pyroâs conclusions are mirrored halves of Shelbyâs finale, and reflect Shelbyâs greatest triumph and lowest low.
The outcomes they get make sense if you position Shelby as the central character, and her choices were the ones that decided their fates.Â
#As someone who hasn't yet had the time to sit down and watch all the perspectives this is such an interesting cool thing to see
#Bc it's also once again another instance of that perspective creep of course townie pov mains and even even some vampire mains are inclined
#to see her as sticking by the coven as a result of the coven's actions - most if not all townie povs have her as *the* poster child example #put forward it town for why the vampires shouldn't be dealt with w unidirectional unrestricted violence
#âShelby is still Shelbyâ is strewn all over the town fights all throughout episodes 3-6ish in Doc's pov as is the underlying idea of her as #âa forgivable monsterâ to the rest of the coven's unforgivable both in Owen's pov and at least partially in Avid's
#So it's hard to conceptualize of her as *not knowing that*- but it also speaks to its own kind of negligence
#The town cares about Shelby enough to tell she's not *changed* since becoming a vampire just not enough to seek her out and double check or
#Or even to seek her out and tell her this to her face
#She's well liked enough but she's no one's priority - no one thinks of her *first* and even those that do don't *tell her*
#For all the many ways to be alone in a crowd it's no wonder at all she'd stay where she's safe and actually wanted
I would say that it's one of those situations when two things are True at the same time. Yes Shelby has a legitimate reason to fear the town. You listed it pretty clearly and i have nothing else to add that. This is objective correct.
Scott doesn't do much to keep her on his side that is also true. Mostlycuz he and Owen assume she doesn't need any encouragement to stay. They like being a vampire and the town really hurt her. Avid often talks about her as she was dead after all.. But at the same time she herself does a lot to stay. When they talk about her like she's just food they call it out but ultimately ignore it when voicing her discomfort with that is brushed off. When Pyro brings up that he's scared of Scott SHE brushes it off. When Owen says something off-putting she refused to hear it or finds an excuse for him. And this is what I think most people refer to when they say she's naive. I wouldn't call it that - its more of a wishful thinking than naivety to me, but that's my personal opinion. Shelby isn't "Naive" because she doesn't go back to town, she's "naive" because she stays with the coven. Which isn't the same thing. Every time someone brings Scott's flaw she finds an excuse for it. He wouldn't hurt her, hes thier bestie. He was hungry. You attacked us first. He's just old and needs to be show the proper modern ways. Hes learning. Her turning was SCOTT'S plan, and Only Scott's. He attacked her and drink her blood too. But she only ever blames Pyro cuz it's easier. Cuz he is the one who got the final hit and it's easier to forget Scott was ever there. Cuz she's scared of the town so much that she needs to excuse what coven does because if they are both "bad" she has no other option. And she pretends as such until she can no longer - until Pyro and Owen hurt her fledgling. Not a friend, fledgling. She's not mad at them for killing Avid she's mad at them cuz they excluded her from that decision. And when they do so, they are deemed the worst people on the planet. She no longer excuses Owen as misunderstood or just sad. She claims Pyro to be just far gone. Because it wasn't a Coven Issue it was Owen and Pyro issue.
One thing I love about the series and all the different POVs is that so many things can be true at the same time. Every character has their own interpretations of every other character, with valid reasons to believe in those interpretations. (Even if they were intentionally misled, thatâs a reason too!) Thereâs no main character. There are fourteen main characters.
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for AU purposes, does anyone know/remember who in VSMP ended up getting the Lantern Thrash ability? off the top of my head I know Abolish did and I think also Martyn, but I'm not sure about anyone else
This post made a whole chart of who got which holy books when! https://www.tumblr.com/yuka1n/800267029535916032/vampires-smp-tome-books-distribution-day-7
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