âtrans men donât experience misogyny because theyâre men thus cannot experience womenâs oppressionâ
I hate to tell you this but even cis men experience misogyny if they step a toe over the line of what our incredibly sexist society sees as âproperâ for a man. You really donât think that a man with interests or expression the world sees as âfemaleâ arenât treated with violence?
âwould you say that of other privileged groups? do you think white people experience racism?â
I mean sometimes they do yeah. I know a white guy with monolid eyes and zero known Asian ancestors and he absolutely experiences anti-Asian racism on a fairly regular basis because people think heâs mixed Asian/white. I know a woman who was told throughout her life that she was Native as an adoptee with no known history or background who experienced incredibly violent amounts of anti-Native racism until she discovered as an adult through DNA test that she is 100% white. I know white people who tan incredibly dark in the summer comparatively that are constantly accused of being mixed race and experiencing racism due to that, usually anti-Mexican racism perpetrated against white people with Greek or Italian ancestors.
Their ability to make it stop by saying âhey, Iâm white actuallyâ only goes as far as the person enacting violence on them is willing to believe them. They still have to live with the trauma and physical scars from the altercations. We live in a racist world and thus there will be violent people who force all others to pass a whiteness test and eliminating or harming the rest.
Got an ask that I just block/deleted but it was basically âso you think cis people experience transphobia!?!?!?!?â and uh
If you think cis butches donât experience both transphobia and misogyny and homophobia for daring to be women who break gender roles while still holding onto their womanhood youâve sorely misunderstood just how bad butches have it in this world sorry. If you donât think cis queens experience transphobia and homophobia and misogyny for daring to be men who break gender roles while being loud and proud about it and still holding onto their manhood then youâve sorely mistaken just how bad they have it in this world as well.
Not to mention all of the cis men who wear dresses and skirts and makeup and nail polish and heels simply because they like them who experience all of these things. All of the cis straight women who simply just exist but something about them doesnât pass societyâs âwoman enoughâ test, leading to them being caught in bathroom bills and sporting rules and being attacked by people who mistake them for being transgender or gay.
Just like how straight people experience homophobia to such a degree that they literally beat their children out of any potential deviance from rigidly upheld gender roles and let politicians make jokes on national TV about how theyâd drown their pre-teen kids if they came out as LGBT. Do you really think a straight kid still figuring themselves out hears that and doesnât internalize that homophobia? Doesnât rigidly hold themselves to some impossible standard so that no one could ever possibly think theyâre gay? You donât think straight teenage boys who maybe donât pass some bullyâs straightness test are getting the shit kicked out of them for âbeing gayâ when, surprise, they arenât? You donât think all those kids being attacked by their priests and coaches and teachers are being told âthis wouldnât have happened if you werenât gayâ when theyâre literally not gay? Do you know how many straight kids had close calls at my school that famously expels all gay kids, because someone made up a believable enough rumor? Do you know how many of them still got their shit kicked in even though administration ultimately decided to let them stay?
All bigotry is violent and all bigotry catches people it doesnât âintendâ to and hurts them as well. It doesnât matter what someoneâs label is, or if they even have one. It matters if the person enacting the violence is doing it because their victim didnât pass whatever âacceptable enoughâ test they didnât know they were being subjected to.
Everyone is at risk. Oppression doesnât care what your label is. Some people are more visible targets than others, and as a result those people are the more common targets. That doesnât mean no one else experiences it.
My first post to reach 2k without people clowning in the notes I feel so proud
It doesnât say anything about tma/tme because I was written before I knew those acronyms.
For the record I donât use the word transandrophobia because I was mentored in transgender political theory directly by a trans woman in college and she taught me that the correct word to use is transmisogyny, as all transgender people regardless of lived or assigned gender experience an intersection of transphobia and misogyny, and the details of this intersection may change based on the context of the individual in question but trans men and trans women have way more in common than not.
That was, however, 16 years ago, so if our current understanding is that transmisogyny is experienced by trans women and trans fems *only*, then another word should be created to describe the same phenomenon for trans men and trans mascs. I donât really care what word we use. Transandrophobia and anti-transmasculinity are the most popular of the options, and Iâm not a cop or anyoneâs dad.
Trans men are, however, intentionally targeted by misogyny, and transphobia, and an intersection of transphobia and misogyny, so the point is sort of moot. This nearly 5 year old post was in response to other transgender people telling me that it is impossible for trans men to experience misogyny because theyâre men. Well, sorry, but even cis men experience it, so thatâs just a silly thing to say. Bigots donât check my pronouns before passing laws to force me to detransition so I can get to work on becoming a baby factory.
This is something that is REALLY important in discussion of what I can only sensibly describe as âGypsyingâ
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