I've had to block quite a few zionists on here, and one thing that I find interesting about how they justify the genocide is the argument that "arab Palestinians are not indigenous to the levant" but that jewish people are, therefore it is justified to remove the brown people to make way for the israeli state. It's extremely indicative of this mindset that racist people tend to have, which is that they feel certain races or groups are entitled to the section of land where they have historic ties, and everyone else who doesn't have those ties is not entitled, therefore it is justified to remove them by any means necessary
Which, if you think about it for more than 5 minutes, is completely insane. Every single person has - or should have - the right to travel and live wherever they want. That means that jewish people from every country, of every skin color, has the right to live in the middle east, regardless of whether they're doing it for religious reasons, because they want to connect more to their cultural heritage, or because they just simply want to emigrate to the area. It doesn't matter why they want to, what matters is that they wish to live there, and they should be allowed to do so
However, this also means that every single "arab Palestinian", as they put it, that is being displaced and subjected to genocide also has the same right to live in that area as the jewish people who wish to move there. It doesn't matter whether or not they are "indigenous to the levant", it doesn't matter if their family has lived there for generations or if they only recently moved there. By virtue of being a living person, they deserve the same right to travel and live anywhere they want, without fear of being pushed out or displaced by another group that feels they deserve to live there more
We see this issue with places like the US, or south africa, two countries which also have historically had huge issues with racism, segregation, apartheid, and displacing certain portions of the population. One key thing about the apartheid with south africa, and the land back movements in the US, is that it's not - or should not be - about removing the offending group from the country. In south africa, it was a decades long process of giving the black population the same rights as the white population, of removing the laws enabling discrimination and the separation. It wasn't about deporting the white population to europe, or about killing them so the black native population could regain control. It's the same with land back in the americas: it's not about deporting every white person in north/south america to europe, or about killing them to the indigenous populations can regain control. It's about allowing these nations and groups the same rights and autonomy as the governing class
The existence of one ethnic or racial group in a state is not inherently a threat to the other ethnic or racial groups that also live there, and attempting to remove one will either not work, or result in you needing to simply enacting genocide. You cannot displace or genocide your way into creating a safe home or a fair state, because any attempt to forcibly remove someone from the place they live in will result in pushback. It doesn't matter how long they and their family have lived there. It doesn't matter if you feel you have a stronger cultural connection to the area. You do not have the right to remove someone from their home, just like they do not have the right to remove you from your home, wherever that may be
If you cannot tolerate the idea of sharing your community with a group that is not your own, then perhaps you should not emigrate to a place where there exists people that are not like you. The levant may be small relative to many other countries or areas in the world, but it is not so small that jewish people and palestinians cannot both create a shared community
"Do you think israel has the right to exist?"
I believe that jewish people - be they citizens of israel or not - have the right to live in the levant if they so choose. They have the same right to live in the levant as the palestinians. I do not believe that the state of israel has the right to commit genocide against palestinians in order to make way for jewish people
It's also very telling how so many people will say "zionism isn't inherently violent, it just means you support a jewish state" when "supporting a jewish state" is advocacy for the creation of an ethnostate in a part of the world where there already exists a population that you would need to displace or kill in order to construct said ethnostate
I don't care if your religious text says that your god gave you a specific track of land several thousand years ago, it doesn't magically give you the right to enact genocide and displace an entire civilization just to try and build it. It doesn't matter if you personally don't think there's anything violent about saying "I support the creation of an ethnostate" because ethnostates are violent by nature. You cannot have a non-violent ethnostate, and no amount of "but god gave it to us-" will ever justify the violence and death needed to make it happen
And one last thing- equating zionism with all jewish people as a whole is itself antisemitic, even if the person doing the equating is also jewish. Zionism is not a belief that one must hold in order to be jewish, nor do all jewish people believe in zionism. In fact, the majority of zionists in the world are not themselves jewish, but rather christian extremists and/or supporters of the US military industrial complex who either want to usher in the rapture by sacrificing the entire jewish population on this planet, ensure that the US keeps its military power over the middle east by fostering violence and war, or both. It doesn't matter if someone is a zionist because they want a jewish ethnostate, because they want all jewish people to die in order to kickstart some nebulous doomsday prophecy, or because they want to keep the MIC machine churning, because all of those reasons lead to violence and mass death
