As someone who has seen both movies, (iron lung three times) here's a few things i see ppl get wrong/ misunderstand. (This is ment to be a tips list ,not a be all end all. Fandom how yall want!):
Simon is missing his left arm, up to the shoulder. Like at the bicep.
Simon is not just a eel, he's fused with the seed and explodes into a tree.
The seed was on the left arm, fused, reversed Pinocchioed him, and got ripped off.
He kills Elli by exploding into a fucking tree.
He met God.
God gave him prophetic visions and fucked him up. Promised Simon would live, and like a Genie, didn't specify how.
Also some time manipulation bullshit was happening.
Homeboy is played by Mark(iplire), who is Korean. (Draw him Korean you cowards /j)
Simon would not necessarily be impressed/ emotinal from looking at stars. In a flashback he's seen stars before, but knows they're ghost light. He would be grateful being able to see them again though.
He WOULD be very emotinal about any plant life. He found a new will to live when he found the little seed. He had a breakdown when the little charm cracked. (Plants represent hope)
His "job" on Eden was to nourish the last tree with the people he killed. Hence his nickname.
There's a lot symbolism regarding trees (the hull window crack)
Simon is resourceful and smart! Like smart smart! Let him be smart with Rocky and Grace!
Yes, Simon can be aggressive, but is only in situation where his life is threatened. He's also remorseful. He's apologetic and does want to make up for his wrongs, even if it wasn't his fault.
Simon is not religious, but he did meet an eldritch god. He even renounced the religious teaching on Eden. Hated that he didn't get a choice. (I DO love some religious angst tho)
Don't get me wrong, there's a LOT of religious/ christian symbolism
Speaking of, he had an Eden tattoo on the left side if his neck, but the COI branded(?) over it
COI = Consolidation of Iron (group of a few starship, satellites, and spacecrafts tring to pool resources to survive). Ava was the Captian of the tow ship and SM-13 execution Expedition.
Eden colony = desendents of Martians (Humans who colonized Mars) basicly a death cult. "Father" is presumably the leader.
Injuries include the bends, multiple concussion, isopropyl poisoning, super radiation, acid like burns and mutations from the blood, the effects of precieving and being precieved by an eldritch god. And lizarding his arm.
His left eye glows :3
Grace is not a coward. He thinks himself a coward, but he's not.
Like Simon, Grace did not go down without a fight. He ran, yes, but when he was being sedated he shouted how he would sabotage the mission. Do everything he can to make it fail, just so the wouldn't risk putting him on the exhibition.
He was ready to throw hands with Rocky when they first met.
He is incredibly brave. He did a space walk without training. He trusted Rocky that he wouldn't explode in the space bridge. He CLIMBED ON THE BURNING EXTERIOR OF THE HAIL MARY TO RETRIEVE THE COLLECTION DEVICE.
Grace is not a crybaby. He crys for very real, reasonable reasons! When he was betrayed? When they found a solution to save their stars? When his friend survived? When Rock gave him a way to return to Earth? It would be weird for him NOT to cry! (Edit: person in the tags you're so right)
He might be scared meeting Simon, but he would not be a coward.
Grace was a (7th grade) middle school science teacher. He was a really good one too. But that also mean he probably was cussed out before. He would not be offended/scared being cursed at. Homeboy was also on a military ship for a good minute. "Swearing like a sailor" is a phrase for a good reason.
He still doesn't curse tho. (In the movie)
Grace is still a teacher! :D
Grace had several Gs of force pressed on him getting the universe's worst concussion. Honestly wouldn't be surprised is he had a skull fracture.
Movie! Grace does not have a scar from saving Rocky. BUT! Who cares, it's sweet :3
They BOTH have a "This is bigger than me" mentality. They both risked everything to ensure the survival of humanity. They were willing to die.
It's not selfish just wanting to live.
I don't think either of them would have a problem doing anything to survive. (Eating the Taumoeba or Me-burgers)
THE ASTROPHAGE PROJECT WAS A GLOBAL EFFORT NOT JUST USA!
Rocky risked his life and almost died to save Grace. The atmosphere of the Hail Mary is toxic to him.
Rocky is NOT Grace's pet! That bitch is a sentient, very intelligent person who saved the Stars!
Rocky's only "naive" because of cultural misunderstandings and language barriers.
There were plants on the Hail Mary. Presumably, they could grow plants on Erid (?)
Markiplier is ≈5"10 and Gosling is ≈6"0 (Really doesn't matter, headcanon what you want!)
How BloodyMary works in my head
Space Youtubers AU
[I'm editing this as more things are said in the tags. And sorry if some of this seems opinionated, im trying to keep to facts or things that can be backed up with evidence]














