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would you believe i couldnt find a shoe with ice.
fallen down the rabbit hole despite never seeing the show or reading the books.
engagement with canon has thus far been pestering my partner for what they remember from a show they used to love but watched drunk, and whatever i can pick up through osmosis
i find robert's rebellion aus (ie. ned marrying ashara, cersei marrying rhaegar, jaime marrying lyanna) tedious because they tend to smooth out the domestic tensions that make that generation interesting without acknowledging the alternatives could be just as tragic
however, i do think catelyn and jaime could have had an unhappy arranged marriage that produced offspring with kill counts like hotd's daemon in adulthood. an au for the type who looks at the 12 names on the characters killed by jaime lannister wiki page and thinks "i could do better"
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Since I didn't get any more writer questions, I was left to my own devices, so really this is your fault
What about a Regency AU with one of the more ridiculous Bridgerton plots sprinkled in, where Miss Duncana Pennytree is traveling to London with her guardian Ser Arlan for the Season, in the hopes that he can get her married before he diesā only he dies before they even get to London, leaving Dunk pretty much stranded once she finally gets to the city.
She more or less stumbles into a ball hosted by the Baratheons, who always begin the Season with some lively festivities. There she catches the attention of Lord Lyonel, but it's only the next day that she has a chance encounter with Prince Baelor Targaryen himself, where she ends up confessing that she's got no prospects, but still must find a suitable (or at least not wretched) match by the end of the Season.
Baelor is plagued with the opposite problem, more or less ā ever since the death of his dear wife he has been hounded by prospective brides and their hopeful parents. But as the Heir to the Throne he can't exactly refuse to be part of the Season, and so he's just been white-knuckling his way through each spring and summer.
Something something something, they agree that Baelor will pretend to be interested in Duncana ā not courting her, of course, but certainly not looking at anyone else for the duration of the Season. This will elevate her status while keeping most of the brides at bay, which is a win all around. (Lyonel hates this plan a lot but nobody actually consulted him beforehand.)
Baelor led her onto the floor, even as her hand tightened in his grip and tried to tug him back to the safety of the shadows. It was a strong hand, with long fingers under what looked to be a rather shabby glove. Baelor wondered afresh what Ser Arlan's plan had truly been. To marry her off well seemed unlikely, if not impossible, with the meager resources he'd scraped together. Perhaps he too had meant to throw himself on the Prince's favor, as she had yesterday evening; yet it seemed at odds with the man he'd once known.
"You'll gain few admirers clinging to the wallpaper," he informed her as they took their place for a gavotte.
"I'll gain even fewer admirers in full candlelight," she muttered, just loud enough to hear, and he could not help the laughter that escaped his lips. She looked down at him, as startled as he at the noise, and he thought how strange it was to look up, into eyes the clear blue of a sky reflected on the surface of a still pond. She looked away and added, "Besides, this is about ridding yourself of admirers more than securing me a spouse who won't despise me."
Your Grace ought to have been at the end of the sentence, but Baelor was already learning that among Miss Pennytree's talents were neither tact nor ettiquette. He did not mind, though it was as well that the gavotte did not provide much opportunity for eavesdropping. "Honor me by assuming I can ward off the eligible ladies present this evening," he said, "and keep your eye to your own objective."
She scowled, an expression hopelessly out of fashion yet somehow all the more charming for it. "Yes, my flotilla of admirers."
"You already have one," he reminded her, nodding at the top of the line where Lord Lyonel watched them with a narrowed, jealous gaze.
Miss Pennytree opened her mouth but the music stilled her reply until the exchange which brought them back together for conversation. "Lyonel's not an admirer, he's a menace," she informed him. "At my first ball, he lead me through a waltz. Stepped on my foot, too."
That Lord Lyonel would do such a scandalous thing was hardly scandalous at all ā he had courted notoriety with far more lust than any paramour. But Baelor had heard of the exchange, and not for Lyonel's outrage. "You stepped on his foot in return, if the stories are to be believed," he replied mildly.
She had made a complete conquest in the process. It was likely what had gotten her the invitation to this evening's affair; there were no few of the ton here assembled eager to see what the Laughing Storm would do, upon discovery that his newest beloved was now in the clutches of the House of the Dragon. A pretty bit of drama for the beginning of the Season, though a risky one ā for while a gentleman might weather almost any scandal, a young lady's reputation was far more easily bruised.Ā
But Miss Pennytree had been blunt in summing up her chances at a tolerable match with no fortune or family to bolster her, now that Ser Arlan was dead. And Baelor himself had tried everything short of an actual wife to keep the wolves of matrimony at bay. They were both compelled to wager a good deal on this scheme, though watching her count the steps under her breath as she made the next turn he was bitterly aware of how much more she had to lose than he.
"Well," she replied as she returned to his arms, "he deserved it. And he's got nearly as many doe-eyed beauties vying for his attentions as you have. He'll not pursue some oversizedā"
"Discounting the fact that even now, he is staring daggers into my back," Baelor commented, "I am compelled to inform you that you will gain no admirers at all if your only conversation is how unattractive you are."
She blinked down at him as the next measure parted them for another minute or so; Baelor danced with Lady Ashford as Miss Pennytree was taken round the turn by her husband, who barely came up to her elbow. There were a few titters from the sides, but they faded quickly enough as he raked his eyes across the throng. He was still Prince Baelor Targaryen, and a woman found in his company was not to be mocked. Besides, for all her inexperience Miss Pennytree showed a tolerable foot along the floor, her muslin gown fluttering behind her like a banner held aloft by a proud squire upon the field.
re: the discussion about karma in asoiaf, i think it's so fascinating that one of the things that damns cersei in the end is her relationship with lancel. lancel is so constantly treated as a joke by the lannister kids in the earlier books, as an unimportant person, that it would have been easy for george to push him out of the narrative as soon as he outlasted his usefulness after the battle of blackwater bay. but the narrative cares about lancel, cares about his emotional state, about his victimization. it doesnt treat the fact that he was exploited by cersei as a vulnerable 16 year old as a joke like the other characters do.
the fact that lancel turns to the faith of the seven as a way to make sense of his trauma falls in line with how aeron and mel do the same for their own griefs, and the way that theon seems to turn to the old gods in the godswood after his own treatment--the physical descriptions of lancel and theon are strikingly similar. lancel and aeron and theon all seem to be aged severely by their trauma (while mel is the opposite, appearing youthful despite being the oldest living character of them all)
i guess in the end im just glad that lancel is taken seriously by the narrative, and that time and time again george takes the hopes and sorrows side characters as seriously as main characters. whether it's lancel or lancel or penny or eroeh or hazzea or the miller's boys, the one thing that is punished by the arc of the story time and again is the belief that certain people matter more than others
arya's decision to kill chiswyck because of how he raped and murdered layna is one of those storytelling choices that really show how the little people are prioritized in the narrative. like sure arya couldve used her jaqen h'ghar genie wishes on killing tywin or whatever. but the whole point is that layna mattered too. the death of mycah weighs heavily on arya and ned, and the fact that of all of the Hound's crimes itās mycahās murder that he stands on trial for at aryas insistence is significant as a story choice.
it's telling that arya's prioritization of the 'little guy' is reflected in all the starks in different ways. sansa saves dontos hollard. robb spares osha. jon saves the old man the freefolk tell him to kill. bran probably has a moment that im blanking on right now. rickon is four.
in a series where the meaning of heroism is constantly upheld and subverted in different ways by characters such as stannis and rhaegar and robb, it stands of note that the most consistent way a hero is identified by the narrative is how they uphold the worth of the ordinary person, even when it doesn't benefit them, even when it hurts them. lyanna āthatās my fathers man youāre kickingā stark, the knight of the laughing tree, stands up for howland reed. dunk kicks a prince of the crown for the sake of a puppet girl. maybe it's true that there's no such thing as a true hero, and that all honor is a mist that melts in the morning. but a common person is not "no one."
i understand all that shit about honor and knighthood and solemn vows but ākingslayerā is simply a bad insult. it sounds cool as fuck. might as well call him the landlord annihilator or the billionaireās bane.
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i think itās cute that jaime and cersei used to switch clothes so that they can live each otherās lives. sorry ur dad sucks, guys. you couldāve been the most iconic siblings at the function, instead ur both just insane.
itās also sad that cersei saw the potential in herself to be someone stronger than her father but she couldnāt achieve those dreams because of her gender. she probably beat up jaimeās training partners very good.
tyrion is very confused. maybe he never figured out that jaime was pretending to be cersei and still hopes that his sister loves him deep down to some extent
the more I read and re-read other fantasy, the more impressive asoiaf becomes to me in its unabashed embrace of the darkness in its characters' POVs. and I don't mean in the "edgelord grimdark" way that so many people (wrongly) ascribe to it, or even in the "historical accuracy" way that so many people use to defend it. I mean more in the way it actually aids in the immersion of the world and story.
other fantasy series will relay the events and the world through their characters, sure, but I never realized just how censored they feel in comparison to asoiaf. things happen, characters feel a certain kind of way about them and relay that to me-the-reader. then they do things, plot happens, etc. sometimes it's quite compelling, even! but in asoiaf, I-the-reader am a brain parasite. the characters think thoughts they would never tell me. I see their worst impulses, their immediate instincts, their intrusive thoughts. a lot of it is unsavory, but it's done in such a way that it all feels deeply real and true to life.
in asoiaf, the characters are not telling me the story; I've invaded their internal dialogue am drinking it in through their biased yet genuine perspectives. I feel less like a reader and more like a ghost that's possessed them through the page. and I think that's the thing that the sets the series apart from others for me
i remember listening to an interview with george on youtube many years ago that i am incapable of identifying and finding unfortunately, but the core of this exact sentiment was expressed somewhere in there by him too, and that particular bit stuck with me because this is precisely how i feel too about asoiaf and its character writing. i obviously cannot get and cite what he said exactly, so honestly i dont find it the best to communicate this vague approximation secondhand and encourage u guys to take this with a grain of salt lol, but what i vaguely remember is that it was something along the lines of not filtering out the darkest thoughts of characters very deliberately, even if it wont reflect their actual actions or the full picture, because that is how people are like. people are dominated by emotions, they are impulsive, they think things, and have facets that are unpalatable. even if they are just thoughts at the end of the day, and all they will be. that is what actually being inside of their heads encompasses. the filter is not there. i do wish people incorporated this into their perspective and analysis and exact read of things too.
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About halfway thru my Ned re-read. This isnāt an original thought but from his obsession over Lannister power grabbing itās clear that what should have happened after Robertās Rebellion is that Ned should have taken one for the team, divorced Catelyn and married Robert himself
i was opening up the nature center and a little wasp flew by while i unlocked the door so i let him out. then i looked down, and there was a spider, a millipede, and two rollie-pollie bugs waiting at the door and they all walked out in a line like theyād been at a party together overnight.
itās been two weeks and i canāt stop thinking about it.
Also: they WILL have sex workers near by making shit tons of money. (In the less ugly option. In the uglier option, you will have procurers with various unfree and indentured persons being what we nowadays call ātraffickedā and may be more accurately called āenslavedā, making the procurers a lot of money.)
There has never in the history of anything been a large group of armed people without a nearby group of people exchanging sex for payment. If you bring up supposedly celibate orders I will laugh you out of the room.
Where there are soldiers there are whores. Where there are soldiers long enough there are probably also eventually spouses (or people who might as well be) and children, but there are DEFINITELY whores.
you know those posts that are like 'oh we should cut horror movie protagonists some slack, they don't know that they're in a horror movie'? catelyn tully stark knows that she's in a horror movie. she's the first to recognize the dead direwolf as an omen to ned, telling him not to go south. she's the one who recognizes the fire of winterfell library as a distraction for the catspaw to kill bran. she's the only one of in the hall of lords declaring robb as King in the North to feel the sense of doom as it happens. she tells robb to keep his direwolf close, and to eat of walder frey's bread and salt immediately. she's the first to recognize the Rains of Castamere playing during the feast. she was canonically the Final Girl of the red wedding. and she died anyway.
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I mean this in the nicest way possible but everything I have ever learned about GOT and GRRMs writing has sounded awful to me. What makes it so compelling to everyone?
So it is deeply flawed in many ways. But it is huge and complicated and has something for everyone also. However dubious the prose can be from time to time the character writing is really tight. The POVs all feel like distinct, sympathetic, and complicated people. Everyone ends up being an unreliable narrator who is lying to themselves about something to cope in different ways for a really large and varying cast. I still think āwhat if the POV was King Arthurās mother and not Arthurā is like one of the most progressive and interesting questions the series asks and he came up with that in the 90s. 
The series also has pretty great thematic complexity and depth in my opinion. GRRM has a lot to say about feudalism, violence, trauma, gender, war, politics, etc. Most of the commentary is about deconstructing the impact those patriarchial institutions have on both their enforcers and the people they oppress. It is not consistently perfect or woke by todayās standards, (especially in terms of orientalism) but it is pretty consistently interesting. ļæ¼
I cannot trust the artistic opinions of anybody who can't frankly admit that the vast majority of whatever's produced in their chosen medium (books, film, etc) is unsalvageable pigslop. But also that dogshit amateur art is critical for said medium. AND that pigslop and amateur dogshit is different
Publishing is largely a machine cranking out entire forests' worth of garbage not worth reading. AND your unedited, barely-coherent 500k word Super Smash Bros fanfiction is vital for the soul to flourish. There is no contradiction here
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