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would asoiaf be better if it had been filtered through sensitivity readers?

cons: possibility that we get a paler and less impactful work watered down to the point of blandness in order to avoid the possibility of being misinterpreted or taken out of context

pros: dont have to hear about danys damn nipples ever again

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thank god george rr martin did not have a twitter when he write game of thrones. all writers after 2006 should have been put in a cabin in the woods henry david thoreau style

damn subreddit i get so defensive of that old man. oh you think it's so easy? Do what you need to do, bro, but the tingly nipples and death by childbirth are not it

ye it's been discussed before

#if i say criticisms of asoiaf and grrm are not always done in good faith #it's not bcz im unaware of the flaws in his writing

i need to get into listening to new music again

#scrolling my 'recent' playlists and it's all gotten stale #mutuals and oomfs im open to recs

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i dont like the term hopepunk in the slightest but i cant tell if i merely aesthetically disagree with it because it's cringe, or if i have an actual Problem with it

#it feels smug #but that's not a proper critique of anything #say something actually informative about the content of the story

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grimdark and hopepunk and noblebright seem like such nothingburger genre categorizations. all books from now on should be sorted into thingbad and thinggood based on how much i personally like them

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why is this greek tragedy ending in doom and gloom? oedipus rex must be a grimdark story

people talk about that guy from the pitt like theyre two seconds away from calling him a slur at all times

ilynpilled

A Storm of Swords - Tyrion X

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concerned mom voice whats wrong hotd twitter you used to love talking about the grand maester conspiracy

#im not actually on hotd twitter i only know what theyre saying based on how much people complain about it here #platos cave situation but in just this one case i happen to be on the outside

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i dog and i dog on grrm but every time i go on that damn subreddit i get so defensive of that old man. oh you think it's so easy? you think it's all fun and games to write a thousand page book in a multipov multicontinental densely structured narrative setting with all the world's eyes on you? go ahead u/chudmeister0621 pick the pen we're all waiting

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With our new technology, 9 pregnant women will be able to give birth to 1 baby within 1 month. 2 babies if they're twins.

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Joke aside, one problem with this formulation is that the average person doesn't really have a grasp of what a "complexity score" of a book could like.

Two naive estimates are treating a book as a book as a book. Stephen King wrote a book in a month, George Martin should be able to do that too. Then you say, no, King's books are shorter, so book complexity should really be a function of word length.

But that falls short fast. There are short stories more complex to write than some novels, simply because they are pulling off more complex things with their writing, while the novel is trite and hackneyed. (More complex doesn't mean more or less good, of course--a book entirely written without the letter 'e' is pretty complex for the average human to write, but it's probably not anyone's favorite novel.)

So the measure breaks. People tend to throw up their hands trying to find any complexity scoring function more fine-grained than word length. More characters, more settings, more interactions, more logistics: all of these are difficult to keep track of, difficult to quantify: the devil is in the details. All we know is that The Winds of Winter is not simply any old book, and it's not even any old 1,000 page book either. It exists in the context of five other books behind it, and one more book after it. It cannot be understated that it is a monumental undertaking. Very few writers have it in them to write a Winds of Winter.

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Oh for sure, that's definitely part of it. Writing complexity is not simply a function of length, and even to whatever extent it is, the complexity balloons non-linearly as the number of pages increases.

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boundwithpurple

i only restrain myself from excellent hotd posting like this with great effort

#it's dialectical yuo see

partingglances1986

If you enjoyed this book you should read every other book in the world for extra textual context. All things are intricately related to one another.

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hotd season 3 writing for every other plotline: two steps forward and one step back. some genuinely compelling writing and dialogue next to the most why would you ever plot it like this character beats of the whole show. pacing somehow rushing and dragging at the same time.

hotd writing for the criston-gwayne-ormund-daeron enmeshment for some reason:

#hotd #i wish the other characters had consistent writing

emmaxrosa

GWAYNE, DAERON & THE SHADOW OF CRISTON "I am sorry about your friend." "He gave himself to the dust."

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bob the builder came out in 1999. bran the builder was mentioned in a game of thrones in 1996. coincidence?

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ned and cat and everyone in winterfell would have been besieged on all sides by teenage sass had they lived to experience jon and sansa at the same time. i know it would have drove them up a fucking wall

"I was unforgiveably rude to you in the yard. You must forgive me." "Must?" She tossed her hair, took a sip of wine, made him wait. "How can you forgive someone who is unforgiveably rude? Will you explain that to me, ser?"

and

Jon turned. "Lady Melisandre." "We must speak." "Must we?" I think not. "My lady, I have duties."

#fully forgot that alayne was moving like that in the winds sample chapters #sansa my sword is yours

aerionbrightflame

Okay well I’m glad it is a shared experience that Gwayne & Ormund & Daeron’s storyline was far better written and more engaging to watch than everyone else’s this season. I honestly thought I’d just developed some sort of uber misogyny and racism

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