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unthrash-deactivated20151110

rocky horror is the worst and is also transmisogynistic can we please finally get over this shit movie

fagtrender

ok but like the writer is transgender nonbinary and the language used in the play was the preferred language by trans people of that time can we not deny parts of our history because we’ve evolved since then thanks

minim-calibre

So fucking much this.

PS, youth of today: you’ll be saying the same damn thing about art from this time before too long, for good or for ill. Terminology will, in fact, change. Definitions will, in fact, shift. It always does, they always do.

PPS, it is pretty much impossible to overstate how life-alteringly important this movie was to kids who didn’t conform to standard expectations of gender and sexuality, back in the day. Especially when back in the day was the mid-to-late 1980s, when the only queers you saw on TV were neutered AIDS tragedies, Bowie was playing straight, and even Elton John was married to a woman, and midnight showing of RHPS were pretty much the only place that felt like home. It was mental life raft for a lot of people.

I was one of them.

counttwinkula

#the queer youth of today has forgotten all its history and is spitting on its ancestors and i hate it (via @gaythreats)

beautifully phrased

cobra-creampuff

ALSO IT’S A SATIRE IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE AN “OFFENSIVE” PORTRAYAL IT’S MAKING FUN OF STRAIGHT PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRAID OF US IT’S EXAGGERATING THEIR IDEAS OF US TO THE POINT OF LUDICROUSNESS THAT’S THE ACTUAL POINT

earhartsease

also you fail to understand just how many, many people were allowed to be queer for Tim Curry and how many doors that began to open

we say this as someone who was in several closets and first saw the film when we were 18 and that was 1981 ffs this film MATTERED

vaspider

Rocky Horror kept me alive.

the-golden-onion

can you imagine: the scene opens with Angela looking through her camera and she peers over the lense and says Oh. My. God. and then it cuts to just Bella getting out of her truck all suave and wearing Cool Kid Shades™ and she immediately trips

and then she gets back up and asks Angela out

valtsv

voluntarily deadnaming myself for a second because i always introduce myself to people i'm not out to as "ness, like the monster" and i just realized how funny it would be if that was a normal thing you were expected to do when meeting new people. my name's ruby like the gem. my name's george like the guy who slew the dragon. my name's jeff like. the killer.

#JEFF LIKE THE KILLER

scuffledig

if u take zoloft and/or spironolactone be careful in the hot months u will dehydrate and be prone to overheating. drink. Water

#GET DRINKT

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rylandsgrace

Barbie (2023) // The Good Place (2016-2020)

peppapigvevo

this looks like the same party

teaboot

they’re shouting back and forth across the club

ramnamsatyahai-deactivated20210

3itchcraft

She is soggy

transmascmoss

Oh shes so good at that

gotterhag

Riveting performance

daughter-of-sapph0

the little jog in place to get hyped up before drinking! perfection!

the-book-reaper

absolutely LOVE that meow

fixed it

Doctor: $140,000 a year

Furry artist on Patreon: $160,000 a year

trilllizard666

i think you’re lowballing the furry art amount tbh

pukicho

I’m sorry for the inaccuracies, Doctor Yiff

trilllizard666

no matter how I respond to this I don’t look good, well played. i walked right into that

boobachu

Well, furry artists are typically more competent and courteous than your average doctor, so I can see that.

pukicho

Did you just legitimately tell me that a person who draws wolf ass is more competent than a dude who spent 8+ years in a university to give you your lung transplant?

hieronymus-botch

doctors are bullshit and furry artists perform an infinitely more valuable service to society compared to them

pukicho

You will die in 7 days

hokuto-ju-no-ken

It took doctor’s like 10 years to diagnose what was wrong with me, some insisting I was faking for attention while a furry artist I knew just went “that sounds like crohn’s” after hearing me complain once and ended up being right

Also I can’t go to a doctor and ask them to draw Rouge the Bat wider than she is tall with tits to match, now can I

kolbye

You could if you weren’t a fucking coward

unnicer

what the every loving fuck is going on

pukicho

Just hanging out

chillywillow1

This feels wrong without the drawing it’s like reading the script

hilsonisthecure

medical malpractice? not to me. not if it’s you.

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palant1r

not proshipper not anti but a secret third thing (person who has a career in the media and, through covering legislative politics, has watched "associating with problematic fiction or entertainment is an indicator of moral degeneracy" rapidly become a mainstream GOP position that they are encoding in legislation to target the queer community under the guise of protecting children, thus coming to the conclusion that positioning the "can people enjoy things that would be immoral IRL in their fiction" debate as a proship v anti fandom debate is akin to pretending that "should we have the death penalty" is a discussion that only matters in Death Note discourse — the extent and manner to which fiction affects reality is an issue that is immediately relevant to today's US politics, and to summarize my opinions on the matter in fandom terms would be to diminish the ways this debate is affecting america Right The Fuck Now. and i have stopped taking "this person is bad for shipping the wrong anime thing and being horny about it" in any sort of good faith ever since I saw it literally used as part of a GOP smear campaign against a transgender state legislator in an attempt to defend the right from backlash after they used their supermajority in the Montana house to prevent her from speaking on the floor. Anyway I think everyone on this site, especially Americans, could benefit from ceasing to think in proship v anti vocabulary and instead developing coherent political positions on the nature of fiction that do not directly align with current fascist political tactics)

palant1r

and yes, this does pretty much align with the "proshipper" position — to be clear, i'm firmly in the camp that it's literally fine to ship whatever and engage in fiction however you want and people are not morally wrong for making art that engages, even gleefully or pornographically, in dark topics. the reason i still choose to not call myself a proshipper is for a few reasons:

-there are so many different implications under that umbrella, and i resent the dichotomy that reduces so many different positions on so many different aspects of media studies to two different labels. such a framing actively stifles discussion and prevents people from having tough and thorny conversations about media with people they mostly agree with

-i think "proshipper" is only a useful positional label for people whos primary mode of engagement with media is through fandom. but as a journalist and queer person, the main ways in which the "does fiction affect reality and how" issue interfaces with my life have nothing to do with fandom, so it feels backwards to me to define my opinions regarding media in relation to the area that has the least relevance to my life

-i want my actual opinions to be the most visible part of how i engage with fandom, rather than a label that will cause everyone to draw nuance-stripped conclusions that vary depending on which "side" they fall on. i want people to listen to me, not project their expectations onto me and listen to a phantom of me they've created

-why should i? if people are willing to engage with me regarding media discussion, it shouldn't matter whether i choose to identify as a proshipper or not — they should treat my ideas on their own merits. and if people think that i'm a sick freak for "condoning" whatever is problematic these days, they're not going to care what i call myself, they're going to call me a sick freak anyways. and im kinda petty and want them to actually have to read my posts and rub two braincells together to interpret things and think critically about how to label me instead of seeing "proship" and slamming the cancel button

palant1r

ok also im seeing some misinformation in the tags about zooey zephyr so let me clarify. she was NOT blocked from speaking on the house floor because of an anime tweet, she was blocked because she told republican legislators they had "blood on their hands" for voting for a bill banning gender affirming care for minors. this resulted in insane amounts of backlash from pretty much everyone anywhere left of center, so naturally right wing talking heads not directly involved in montana politics started finding reasons to discredit her. one such talking head is that asshole whos gotten plastic surgery to look like jimin from bts and identifies as transracial or whatever. that was the person who dragged up the genshin impact tweet she made a few years ago in an effort to distract from the blatantly undemocratic actions of the Montana GOP.

but that isn't to say that these issues have nothing to do with the legislative session this year — far from it. for my job, ive had to watch hearings or read transcripts for almost every anti-trans bill in the montana legislature this session. ive followed those politicians on twitter, talked to bill sponsors and majority leaders. and i kept seeing the same underlying rhetoric as ive seen used in "anti" spaces. namely: that children need to be protected from degeneracy at all costs, that this can be done through restricting access to certain fiction and entertainment, and that fiction and entertainment being unsuitable for children means it and any of its creators must be morally corrupt. that there is no reason to enjoy transgressive art beyond sexual titillation. that enjoying things for pornographic reasons is inherently wrong, especially if those things are not perfectly good and christian. that harassment and dehumanization is an appropriate response to creating degenerate entertainment. that people can't be trusted to interpret art and fiction, but instead must be protected from anything potentially objectionable. these arguments barely need to be changed at all to be leveraged against problematic shipping instead of like, drag shows. because they're all part and parcel of the same underlying ideology

of course, this is just one state, and people in the notes have correctly pointed out that this is by no means a new thing. but i think what is new is how GOP puritanism has dovetailed with the vocabulary, rather than just the ideology, of fandom puritanism

i think one reason why so many US antis don't recognize this commonality is because the left-of-center perception of conservative ideology is a monolith. there's this common idea that "conservatism" is a bloc of ideas that always go together and cannot be separated from each other, leading to the idea that it's impossible to internalize any conservative ideals without being right-wing oneself. and in a country where the right is explicitly trying to enshrine and preserve ideals that are already woven into society, largely trying to preserve existing biases rather than creating new bigotry, that could not be further from the truth. i guess this is my protip for everyone in america: if the GOP supports something, there's a good chance that you have also absorbed some of the underlying ideology beneath that thing, and that's worth examining

#the only problem i have with this take is that i use the label proshipper in fandom spaces and only in fandom spaces #i work in media and would never go around irl calling myself proship - there's a time and place #the place is on fandom tumblr btw #everything else 10/10 i agree

midnightlie

i dream about being with you forever

sleepy-seal

GIVE IT UP FOR WHALE FALL WEDNESDAY

sleepy-seal

people seem to be way ahead of me so happy whale fall wednesday to those who celebrate

dailyflicks

TWILIGHT (2008), dir. Catherine Hardwicke

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