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Welcome to the world of TMNT: EM- a fan series full of violence, drama, and how a broken family can still be a family. It takes place about 5 years after the 2012 series, with new major characters, new lore and worlds, and new villains to mess stuff up.
Currently the series is in the āconcept artā stage and will be that way for a while, but once thatās finished, well⦠we shall see :3
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When Naiās sister ran away with her why didnāt she take any money with her?
Also if Nai had a point in her life where she was human like her sister, who would she look like?
Oh she did take a decent amount of money, I just didnāt show it in the video lol. Grace couldnāt take a TON since sheād be caught, but they managed to get a lot of essentials when they first arrived in NYC. The problem is, NYC IS expensive to live in, and itās hard to find a job when you donāt appear human.
Nai wouldāve looked really close to her father, sadly, so itās probably a good thing she never had a human form.
Neko, I don't know if you've seen the movie "Obsession" or not, but... people are seriously comparing Donnie to the FUCKING Bear. This comparison is just insane as hell. I want to cry about it. Donnie definitely has some boundary issues, but... goddammit. This is NOT what Donnie would do. HELL NO. JUST NOOOOOOOOO
Tell me you've never actually paid attention to the formation of 2012Donnie's character without telling me that you've never actually paid attention to the formation of 2012Donnie's character.
SO HERE'S THE DEAL:
I can't sit through horror movies, so I technically didn't watch it, but I do have a YouTuber who talks me through the events of horror movies, so I know what happens with the overall characters and plot. If we sat down and talked about the movie, you probably wouldn't guess that I haven't actually sat in theaters to watch it. But, if my information isn't perfect- I didn't sit down and watch the whole thing.
And to be frank, I am not going to.
ADDITIONALY: me and my turtle instincts heard about the movie's popularity and knew immediately that this kind of comparison was going to form. Ergo, I reviewed the movie to create my stance.
Which is basically: if you're making this comparison, you're doing it to feed your own bias, and I guarantee you can't back it up with contextual canon proof for why Donnie would stoop to Bear's level.
For those who doubt, let me walk you through the facts.
Right before the wish is made, Nikki directly asks Bear if he likes her, and Bear fumbles and tells her that they are friends. This would not be the case with Donnie. We're shown in The Invasion that when he thinks he has the opportunity to say something, he goes for it. The difference between these scenarios is that Nikki asks Bear directly, while April intentionally prevents him from saying anything about it.
In April's exact words, "You should stop talking."
If April directly asked Donnie how he felt about her, the canon supports that Donnie would just be honest about his feelings, because he isn't trying to hide anything- he's not talking about it because he thinks (then knows) April wouldn't/doesn't want them to discuss it.
The only time that he does bring it up again is in Foot Too Big, when he's apologizing to her. (Keep a pin in that. We move on.)
So let's say that he does get very nervous and fumbles the ball- would he make the wish? Yeah. I think he would. He tends to act out when his emotions are high, and I believe he would blurt something like "I wish April would love me the way that I love her." I do NOT think he would wish that April would love him "more than anyone in the whole world."
This movie is centered around a male predator who intentionally ignores a female's boundaries and autonomy to claim the female as his own. His wish was worded in that specific way because- as the movie shows- he doesn't like Nikki. He likes the idea of having her.
Donnie starts out with a crush on April, but at no point during the series does he claim ownership of her. And no, that one time that he fumbles and says "my April" "our April" "April" was not some subconscious revelation- it was a kid with a crush saying something inappropriate, realizing he said something inappropriate, and then correcting himself to fix the inappropriate.
He learns to know her, "she always answers the phone!" "April's usually at the park around this time," but he never pretends that she belongs to him. Whatever she decided to do during the series, he always supported that. Ever notice how Donnie's never depicted, even hinting that she should stop tutoring Casey?
Casey gets a whole conversation with Raph about how he has to back off of April because Donnie likes him. No one tells April how to feel.
And when she decides to become a kunoichi, Donnie's all for it. He never attempts to stop her because it might be dangerous. No attempt at control or persuasion. Just support. "It's amazing you made it to kunoichi, April. Ignore everything Raph just said."
When April told them that they can trust Karai, Donnie (who notoriously doesn't trust Karai) doubtfully says, "I trust... April." And doesn't say anything against them bringing her home.
He fights Casey around her, but when she makes a verdict, he respects it. Donnie never even tells her that she's wrong for blacklisting his entire family because of an accident that they are currently trying to repair. Upon 'losing' her for the second time, he leaves and goes home.
Bear's wish is a reflection of how he desired her to lose her autonomy by making all her love be centered around him. Donnie wants to be in a relationship with her, but he wants her to want it too. He doesn't want to own her. He just wants her to see him as more than a mutant.
I think he'd wish that she'd love him in his lowest moment. I don't think he'd wish that all her love (ergo, autonomy) would belong to him.
April is actually a super independent female character in the series because all of the brothers respect her autonomy as a person. There's never a point in the series where any of them try to tell her what she can or can't do. In Metalhead, when April wants to hunt the Kraang alone, Leo warns her that it "could be dangerous,'' and she warns him that it's more dangerous for him to be getting in between her and her dad, so he puts up his hands and steps away to let her go.
Canonly, Donnie has never tried to take her autonomy. When he thinks that he might be because of what Raph says, "now you know how April feels" in the events of A Foot Too Big, he goes to her and says that he's going to back off from her now. He understands what he's been doing and how it could be affecting her. He intends to stop.
Then April kisses him. And walks away.
Which is an incredibly confusing response for a boy who just bared his heart and said that he was going to back off because he guessed she wasn't interested. To then be shown that she has interest.
How on earth would you respond to that?
Another point that I would like to make, is Bear actively ignoring all of the harm that is happening to Nikki. All the crying fits, all the abnormal acts, he watches them happen and moves on.
There is no universe where Donnie does that. Donnie has acted as April's shoulder to lean on through the entire series. When she's freaking out in Fungus Humongous, his first instinct is to soothingly crouch beside her and tell her that she's okay. Out of all the brothers, he's the first person that she calls when she's in trouble, because she knows that he's going to show up. In City At War, when April's pulling out her blade and about to lose control, it's Donnie crouching next to her and gently telling her "not to let that weirdo get to you" which pulls her out of her psychic insanity funk and calms her down.
Donnie cares so, so, so much about her being happy and safe. He would not sit back and let any of this play out. The SECOND that she shows adverse signs, he's going to go out of his way to fix whatever it is that he did. In Bat in the Belfry, April goes to Donnie about her headaches and weird visions, and he tries to find a way to stop them. It shows that he's noticing every time that she acts off with the crystal. The Power Inside Her begins with Donnie trying to figure out what the crystal is doing because the vibes are off. He wants to figure out why and how to stop it in case it becomes bad for her/others.
Donnie wants the crystal to figure it out, but he never stops her from taking/keeping it when she wants it because he respects her and the fact that it belongs to her. He respects her autonomy to have it until it makes her go crazy, and she destroys the lab.
Then he steps in to separate them.
Even after she destroys the dojo/lair, Donnie chases her up a building alone. He doesn't care what happens to him if it means she's okay.
In the movie, he might buy some of her reasons, "I'm only emotional because of my dad," because he trusts her wholeheartedly, but as soon as she does the first whacked-out thing (memorial of the cat-esc crazy), he's going to know something's wrong, and he's going to start trying to figure out what it is.
He's going to have vibes that something is wrong from the get-go, and a restaurant-esc scene would immediately spur him to start acting. There's no universe where he sees her make a scene like that and learns that she lied to him and doesn't know that she's not acting like herself. That would be the point that he starts trying to figure out what the HECK is wrong with her and (very likely) blaming himself for it, which would only make him want to fix it more.
The scene where she's in bed and asking him to kill her to free her? There would be no "What's so bad about being with me?" He'd be sprinting back to her to promise that he's going to fix this and free her. During the show, he has nothing but her best interests at heart, and the SECOND that she reveals that she actually doesn't like this? That would be all it takes for him to know that it's wrong. That it has to be undone.
I think upon learning that he has to kill himself, he'd be like "no there has to be another way" because normal people don't want to die, and thankfully, his brothers are not useless people like Ian, and probably would wish for the wish to go away, which would fix everything.
Then we'd have a A Foot Too Big-esc scene at the end where Donnie apologizes to April for making the wish in the first place, because that's just the kind of person that the canon shows him to be.
To Summarize:
THERE IS NO AT ALL COMPARISON BETWEEN DONNIE AND BEAR, AND YA'LL NEED TO SOURCE CHECK YOUR MATERIAL.
Oh HELL NO TO THE NO NO NO. THERE IS NO WAY THIS FANDOM IS COMPARING AN AWKWARD TEENAGE BOY STRUGGLING WITH SOCIAL SKILLS (BECAUSE HE WAS RAISED IN THE SEWERS I MIGHT ADD) TO A LITERAL GROWN MAN RAPIST.
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One of the reasons I get so giddy about Apriltello in this universe is how much of a non-fandomized lesbian couple they are.
Theyāre just so fluid in both their gender expression that you can never tell certain things about them. One day Donnie could look super butch and April could be femme as hellā then two days later it could be completely flipped on its head. Whoās the femme and whoās the butch? No one knows! They could BOTH be either of those things at the same time too- and no one could ever tell which one is a āfirmā answer or whoās the āmanā in this version- since there IS no man, and neither of them give a fuck about if they wear dresses or not. Like a real lesbian couple.
Idk, I hope this makes sense, but every time I draw them in different outfits like that, I go rabid in a good way. And obviously in all the same-sex couples in this story are like that too, but Iāve been on a HUGE Apriltello Yuri kick lately.
How it feels to design my girl Dee but Iām desperately trying to figure out a correct way to draw her figure, because I want it to be clear sheās transitioning mtf, but I also really, REALLY donāt want her to look like those kinds of Tmnt genderbend arts:
not usually one to get involved in fandom drama but today i'm choosing violence bc the '2k12 leorai is incest' crowd really isn't taking the most fundamental aspect of adoptive families being families of choice to its full conclusion
(and before anyone tries to piss on the poor, i AM saying that adoptive families are real families, that's not what this is about)
bc in order for adoptive families to work, it can't just be a one-way street of someone choosing to be a parent to a child they didn't genetically contribute to. it ALSO has to be the child choosing to see that person as their parent rather than as someone who just happens to help take care of them. likewise, it's about choosing to see any other children in that home as siblings rather than as just people they live with - and that applies regardless of how old someone is when they join a family.
i will admit that being raised together from a young age will make it feel more like a default than a true deliberate choice to consider the people around you as family - like the turtle boys considering each other brothers when who knows if they came from the same clutch - but as long as the kid gets told the truth eventually, they WILL end up having to face that decision.
some will find it easy to make; some won't. some will decide that yes, this family is their family, and no one can/should tell them different - and some will decide that this isn't their family, it was just a place they were raised in and people they were raised around.
mikey, after learning about his adoptive dad's bio kid, chose to see karai as his sister. donnie and raph never really gave a strong hint either way. leo, on the other hand, very clearly chose to see karai as a love interest rather than a sister, which is a completely valid decision as well.
bc the ability to say no is what MAKES something a choice in the first place - so if the incest-criers really wanted to defend adoptive families, they'd respect the turtles having made different choices about what kind of relationship they want with karai.
Someone FINALLY said it, bro, and Iām so happy. I have friends (and ex-friends) who were adopted and with SUPER diverse families and cultural backgrounds, it was always so irritating with some of the stupid āreasonsā all these toxic fans use. 80% of the time, theyāre not even VALIDATING adopted families or found family at all- just shoving it into a āwhite suburban boxā and disrespecting Karaiās autonomy as her own person.
THERES A REASON SHE KEPT HER NAME AND MADE HER OWN CHOICE TO TAKE OVER THE FOOT CLAN, FOLKS.
Anton was born in a regular family but always had a thing for tech. Construction sets. Circuit boards. Taking apart old appliances. He dreamed of being an engineer. In school he did well at first but classmates thought he was too serious. Too proper. A total nerd. He had almost no friends. The phrase "just chill out dude" hit him way harder than he ever let on.
By high school he decided to flip the script. One buddy told him to just blend in. Hit the parties. Don't stand out. So Anton dove in headfirst. Every night he was at some local disco learning to crack jokes and fake being one of the crew. Thatās where he first heard Michael Jackson. The music. The moves. It grabbed him completely. By 17 he was a full blown fan and his whole vibe got cocky and loud.
At 18 he changed his look completely. Purple mohawk that stayed forever. Contacts instead of glasses. Leather jacket and ripped jeans. He finally looked like he belonged. He had a girlfriend for about two years but they broke up bad. She wanted him to settle down and change for her. Anton said no way. He spent too long wearing masks to ever change for someone again. After that he stayed single.
School totally fell off his radar. Party life ate up his lectures. But deep down he still remembered his old dream of being a tech guy. He moved out at 20. Parents didn't mind. Money was always tight so he worked as a waiter but got fired for showing up late or not showing up at all.
That fall he got bored at another party and left early. Took a dark alley as a shortcut. Two guys jumped him. They demanded his cash. Anton fought back but got slammed. They robbed him and left him on the ground with a split lip. Stumbling home pissed and humiliated he barely noticed a stranger in his building entrance. The guy saw his condition but didn't laugh. Just handed him a business card and said he had steady work for a guy like him. Anton took the card and walked away.
He had nothing. No job no money no desire to crawl back to his parents. So he called the number. That's how he became a thief. At first his conscience ate at him but the pay was good and Anton learned to save instead of blow it all. He started hoarding cash for one big goal ā building his own high tech suit. His old mechanical skills came roaring back. Video tutorials. Blueprints. Soldering. Trial and error. By 23 he had a full suit with built in projectors and extra functions. Plus a Cyclops visor with thermal vision. And he rigged his purple mohawk with a holographic emitter turning his hair into a weapon.
By 26 he was a pro with years of experience. But small time jewelry heists got old. He wanted bigger scores. More risk. New challenges. So he started hunting for clients in the dark corners of the web. He found a listing from some 41āyearāold guy with no photo. Anton messaged him but got no reply. Too impatient to wait he decided to show up at the office address in person.
Early morning he was standing outside the building when the guy suddenly appeared behind him. Anton spun around and aimed his lasers just in case. But something shorted out. A wild shot hit the stranger right in the right eye. Anton froze. He didn't know if he was more scared of jail or of the fact that he just maimed a guy. He called an ambulance but the victim grabbed him and said "You're coming with me or I'll find you and kill you."
That's when Anton learned the guy was Ivan Steranko. A big time arms dealer and the very employer he was looking for. Ivan survived but lost an eye. Instead of revenge he made Anton work off the cost of a diamond prosthetic. Anton agreed. He had no choice.
Months passed. Anton ran jobs for Ivan. Even after the failed Kuro Kabuto heist Steranko didn't kick him out. And when the Kraang invaded New York Anton stayed right beside Ivan even though he could've bolted. For the first time in years he actually trusted this tough Russian. Yeah it all started with a mistake but Ivan became the one boss worth sticking with till the very end.
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you are the chillest tmnt fan i know on this platform
I just think we should all be loud and proud about what we like and considerately polite about what doesn't vibe with us personally, and make it so we can all have a good time. But that's just me ig
Is this so hard to comprehend for you all? So many people would just feel so much safer talking about the things we love if certain people just werenāt huge jerks all the time. :(
2012 Splinterās actions make much more sense if you consider that he probably knew he was on borrowed time.
Like, this wasnāt just a āOne day I will leave this world when Iām old and wrinkly and my sons will have to bury meā kinda way.
More like, āa man who hates my mere existence is searching to the ends of the earth to find me to kill me, and he will find me eventually. So my sons need to be prepared for my death soon rather than laterā kinda way.
ā¦There is one person in the whole world Mikey is afraid of.
Not Akui. Not any of the True Foot members. Not anyone from the Undercity families. Not anyone from the remaining Kraang Factoids or the newly rebuilt Utrom Council.
Itās someone who NO ONE except Mikey knows about. And thatās because heās never told anyone about this person at allā because this person is the only one who could possibly be his equal in a fight, except this person has no morals and values. Mikey may be chaotic as hell but he has personal rules for what he does. Boundaries heād never cross, in most situations. This person has none of that, and Mikeyās seen this firsthand.
So good thing this guyās dead. Or at least Mikeyās sure he is.
Gonna need this for later. Call me immature but I for one, LOVE the look of the new babies. Plus Iām glad that little kids have a way to grow into the tmnt cult- I mean, fandom. Donāt get me wrong, I have no regrets growing up with my 2012 children, but there was some body-horror type shit in that show that I think might be part of why Iām kinda TOO weird now XD
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Very sloppy 2012 Kitsune concepts as I am art blocked
She is Shinigamiās mom and a (very begrudging, very reluctant) ally of the Shredder.
She is vain, temperamental, and completely chaotic evil but she loves her baby girl as much as her shriveled heart can. She just wishes she had better taste.
LMAO NO WAY SOMEONE HAD ALMOST THE SAME IDEA AS ME.
Shiniās past is a lot more complicated in EM and she and her momās relationship is very strained at best, but they have similar gimmicks in the AUs. Thatās so fucking funny, bro.