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Yeah, there’s a reason for that.

Lisa Edelstein is Jewish.  As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel.  Gothel’s design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women.  

This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel.  Rapunzel has the “typical Disney face”:

Here’s a more close up look at her features.

The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes “eviler.”

If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothel’s features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).

But here is what we have is -

small noses that turn up at the end:

wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmerelda’s clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)

And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmine’s nose not being a button):

Apart from just the design of Gothel, there’s also the whole: “obviously ‘other’ (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposes”

Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me.  It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in “mother” role to Rapunzel, she’s is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.

There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic.  

Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that.

Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded.  Rapunzel fails this as well.

Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish.  Rapunzel fails once again.

Hope this helps.

Jewish people don’t get that.  When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create “evil looking” villains.

You don’t see it because you’ve been ingrained with the idea that “ethnic” features are just “how you make a character look evil.”  You don’t look at Gothel and see your mother.  You don’t see yourself and your people.  You don’t see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you.  

But seeing how you also seem to think that saying you’re not attracted to an entire race of people ISN’T racist, you really don’t get any say on any of this.

So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.

Let’s play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:

Many “evil witch” tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc.  Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicate “evilness” to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using. 

One big issue I have is that Gothel’s didn’t start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen.  Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel.  

They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel more “other” from the good characters in the movie.  At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.

It really doesn’t matter if any of this was intentional, I’d actually bet that it wasn’t.  However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that there’s nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.

You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post.  It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character.  It’s not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain.  It’s about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood as “villainous” due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.

Sentencing disparity is easily explained by different degrees of murder. When men kill partners it’s typically a “crime of passion” which will be charged as either manslaughter, or second degree murder at worst. Basically the partner did something that made him lose his shit, like he caught them in the act of cheating. This doesn’t make it okay, but it’s a mitigating factor.

They also think equating hundreds of millions of people in the US to to the few tens of thousands of men and women who commit violent crimes per year is a persuasive argument. For the record, >the FBI says the arrest rate for murder in 2016 was 3.7 per 100000 people, and rape 7.3<. There are arguably less people arrested for rape and murder combined that year than there are intersex people in the first place.

“98.3% of people are male (or) female”

So…am I assuming that this is the entire human population, worldwide?  Good job, nice sample size.  Not reproducible in almost any other context.

“99% of criminal rape convictions are for males”

And?  What is the legal definition of rape?  And what is the percentage of any and all criminal convictions against your initial ENTIRE POPULATION sample size?  You wouldn’t be intentionally moving goalposts here, would you?

“86% of domestic violence convictions are male”

I have to ask the same questions as before.  What is the legal definition?  What is the total percentage based on worldwide population?  Here’s a bonus: is there any evidence that this might be misleading or incorrect?

“90% of murder convictions are male offenders”

You keep bringing up the same points, I’ll spread mine out.  How about murder charges?  How about rates of declared innocence with similar amounts of evidence towards guilt.  How about human bias?

“61 of 62 mass shootings are male offenders, conducted between Jan ‘62 and Jul ‘12″

This one, I think, might be my favorite, because you either have to admit there were only 62 mass shootings in over half a decade, or that your shootings were cherry-picked.  Both go against the narrative.  If not, why didn’t you say 2412 out of 2413 shooting were done by men?  Why not all of them?

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…and it’s interesting how many Midterm ads seem to be basically either “this candidate hates Trump!” or “the other guy is pro-Trump! Vote for me instead!”

Especially since it’s a red state.

Oh, wait, no, I see what you mean.

Rural or Country areas normally vote republican as they are out in areas where economics play a huge role and have to face more issues dealing with an individual and their family. There is a community out in the country, but everyone lives like miles apart, so they don’t see each other often. To add to that, there are very few people living in these areas as is. So you’ll have like, 10 neighbors who all live 5 to 10 miles apart but all go to the same convenience store where they usually see each other the most.

Urban or City areas normally vote democrat as they live in areas filled with all kinds of people who all get impacted by the choices made by others. They focus more on social issues and group thought as they are clustered close together a lot, often finding it easier to blend with one another, as they pretty much have to.

When does a FEAT of power/strength go from being ‘OH MY GOD THATS REALLY FUCKIN COOL" To “Okay, now you’re pushing it dude, you’re like a lil kid who just keeps making shit up as you go along” For example Saitama from One Punch Man parting the clouds is Raw as fuck to me

, BUT SPAWN ACTUALLY DEFEATING GOD and SATAN, 2 “OP OF OP entities is the point where I’m like…thats just fuckin silly dude

Shoot some examples down below for each!

The pure build up to mastered Ultra Instinct was INTENSE! We see it get used twice and each time builds its capabilities in different ways. The first showing offensive, and the second showing defensive. When it’s finally mastered and unleashed, it’s absolutely incredible from the single punch seen equating to hundreds of punches done, to the amount of energy he has looking like it’s own galaxy to give the viewer an understanding of the raw power Goku has attained. It was all amazing. But at the same time

So there’s been a lot of discussion floating around regarding billionaires and society, and I’ve noticed that most people have no idea what a billion dollars is for practical purposes - people tend to think of it as a vague, nebulous concept of “a lot of money” rather than something concrete you can wrap your head around. This is understandable, considering 1) a billion of anything is really hard to visualize and 2) the average person has no real reference point for an amount of money that large. So I’m going to try to break it down for everyone:

Okay, so imagine you have a billion dollars. What can you actually buy with that?

This is a mega mansion that will have an Imax cinema, a bowling alley, and a spa when it’s fully complete. It costs around 4.6 million dollars.

Now let’s buy one of these in every country in Europe - that’s 50 mansions you now own. So how are you going to travel between all your many homes?

This is a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport, the fastest street-legal car in the world. It has a maximum speed of a face-melting 254 mph and can go from 0 to 60 mph in 2.5 seconds. It costs around 2.5 million dollars.

Let’s buy a dozen of them - you know, in case you total a few of them racing around the highway. But maybe a sports car is still to slow for you:

This is an Embraer Lineage 1000. It’s private jet that can seat up to 19 passengers, and we’re going to buy it for 53 million dollars.

How about a boat? The Tatoosh is a 303 ft private yacht, meaning it’s longer than a football field. We’ll take it for 369 million dollars.

Do you like art? Just for fun let’s buy Monet’s most expensive painting ($90 million) Van Gogh’s most expensive painting ($151 million), and this monstrosity, which is made with 8,601 diamonds and costs 65 million dollars.

Now that we’ve gone on our ludicrous and absurdly wasteful shopping spree, how much money do we have leftover? About 12 million dollars, which is almost an order of magnitude more than the average American with a bachelors degree or higher earns in a lifetime ($1.8 million). So if you for whatever reason decided to buy the 50 houses, 12 sports cars, plane, yacht, art pieces etc. and immediately set them all on fire, you would still have enough cash leftover so you never would have to work again if you so chose. This is what it means to be a billionaire.

But we’re not done yet.

The richest person in the world is Bill Gates, with a net worth of 86 billion dollars. If he liquidated his assets, what could he buy?

Well, for starters, the Burj Khalifa - the tallest man-made structure in the world at 2,722 feet tall, costing around 1.5 billion dollars.

The Large Hadron Collider, the world’s biggest and most advanced particle accelerator for 9 billion dollars.

The Hubble Space Telescope for 10 billion dollars (including 20 years of operating costs).

The Three Gorges Dam, the largest power station in the world, more than a mile wide.

And to top it all off, a fleet of five Nimitz-class aircraft carriers, the largest military vessels ever built for around 8.9 billion dollars each. If you look at the picture very closely you can see the people standing on it for reference.

If Bill Gates bought all of this, he would still have around 2.3 billion dollars leftover. That’s enough to go on the billionaire shopping spree I described above twice over (so 100 mansions, 24 sports cars etc.) and still have hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank when it’s all said and done.

But we’re not done yet.

Currently, it’s estimated that there are 2,043 billionaires alive today, with a combined net worth of around 7.67 trillion dollars.

This is Russia, the largest country in the world, extending more than six and a half million square miles, with a population of more than 144 million people. The United Kingdom could fit inside Russia 70 times.

In 2016 Russia’s gross domestic product was about 1.28 trillion dollars. This means that if the two thousand and some odd richest people in the world - less than half of 0.1% of 0.1% of the Earth’s population - liquidated and pooled their assets together, they could buy every single product and service made in Russia for almost 6 years.

So there’s been a lot of discussion floating around regarding billionaires and society, and I’ve noticed that most people have no idea what a billion dollars is for practical purposes - people tend to think of it as a vague, nebulous concept of “a lot of money” rather than something concrete you can wrap your head around. This is understandable, considering 1) a billion of anything is really hard to visualize and 2) the average person has no real reference point for an amount of money that large. So I’m going to try to break it down for everyone:

Okay, so imagine you have a billion dollars. What can you actually buy with that?

This is a mega mansion that will have an Imax cinema, a bowling alley, and a spa when it’s fully complete. It costs around 4.6 million dollars.

Now let’s buy one of these in every country in Europe - that’s 50 mansions you now own. So how are you going to travel between all your many homes?

This is a Bugatti Veyron Super Sport, the fastest street-legal car in the world. It has a maximum speed of a face-melting 254 mph and can go from 0 to 60 mph in 2.5 seconds. It costs around 2.5 million dollars.

Let’s buy a dozen of them - you know, in case you total a few of them racing around the highway. But maybe a sports car is still to slow for you:

This is an Embraer Lineage 1000. It’s private jet that can seat up to 19 passengers, and we’re going to buy it for 53 million dollars.

How about a boat? The Tatoosh is a 303 ft private yacht, meaning it’s longer than a football field. We’ll take it for 369 million dollars.

Do you like art? Just for fun let’s buy Monet’s most expensive painting ($90 million) Van Gogh’s most expensive painting ($151 million), and this monstrosity, which is made with 8,601 diamonds and costs 65 million dollars.

Now that we’ve gone on our ludicrous and absurdly wasteful shopping spree, how much money do we have leftover? About 12 million dollars, which is almost an order of magnitude more than the average American with a bachelors degree or higher earns in a lifetime ($1.8 million). So if you for whatever reason decided to buy the 50 houses, 12 sports cars, plane, yacht, art pieces etc. and immediately set them all on fire, you would still have enough cash leftover so you never would have to work again if you so chose. This is what it means to be a billionaire.

But we’re not done yet.

The richest person in the world is Bill Gates, with a net worth of 86 billion dollars. If he liquidated his assets, what could he buy?

Well, for starters, the Burj Khalifa - the tallest man-made structure in the world at 2,722 feet tall, costing around 1.5 billion dollars.

The Large Hadron Collider, the world’s biggest and most advanced particle accelerator for 9 billion dollars.

The Hubble Space Telescope for 10 billion dollars (including 20 years of operating costs).

The Three Gorges Dam, the largest power station in the world, more than a mile wide.

And to top it all off, a fleet of five Nimitz-class aircraft carriers, the largest military vessels ever built for around 8.9 billion dollars each. If you look at the picture very closely you can see the people standing on it for reference.

If Bill Gates bought all of this, he would still have around 2.3 billion dollars leftover. That’s enough to go on the billionaire shopping spree I described above twice over (so 100 mansions, 24 sports cars etc.) and still have hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank when it’s all said and done.

But we’re not done yet.

Currently, it’s estimated that there are 2,043 billionaires alive today, with a combined net worth of around 7.67 trillion dollars.

This is Russia, the largest country in the world, extending more than six and a half million square miles, with a population of more than 144 million people. The United Kingdom could fit inside Russia 70 times.

In 2016 Russia’s gross domestic product was about 1.28 trillion dollars. This means that if the two thousand and some odd richest people in the world - less than half of 0.1% of 0.1% of the Earth’s population - liquidated and pooled their assets together, they could buy every single product and service made in Russia for almost 6 years.

Request:

Let’s say you have a badass job. A great job. You make $100 AN HOUR. You work 10 hours a day ($1000 A DAY), 5 days a week ($5000 a week!!!), every week ($20,000 A MONTH), thats $240,000 Every Year.

For example, JK Rowling is a billionaire so would it be better to tell people they are no longer allowed to read/watch Harry Potter or buy HP merchandise, or should JK Rowling not be paid anymore when people buy her books?

also it’s not even a terrible thing to be born with money or opportunities, because again someone down the line in the family worked so their family wouldn’t have to as much and as a mother I can’t blame any parent wanting that. why judge just because you’re simply jealous?

Great, and when all the rich people move out of your country and stop pouring millions of dollars into your economy, you end up with yet another collapsing authoritarian regime.

“But what about oil spills caused by oil tycoons!?”

Accidents that coast them far more money than they’d ever want. Most companies that handle things like oil and coal try to keep their products safely out of the environment as they don’t want to lose money on clean up, PR and losing the product. It’s greedy but it means they try to be extra careful not to make mistakes.

“What about all the plastic dumped into the oceans huh?”

That’s not billionaires, that’s us. WE, the average person, are doing that.

“Well they treat their employees horribly!”

Ok, besides Amazon and Walmart, which companies are doing that out of the 200+ that are owned by billionaires world wide? We hear about the most popular ones on the news because it makes good news that you would actually pay attention to, but overall, most of them treat their employees, at least they ones they can interact with, with dignity. You have to also remember that they themselves don’t control that, but local management does. If you want to change the way employees are treated, then you need to take care of the local management, not the corporate management, as CEOs tend to have nothing to do with the lower workers in the company.

“Well that’s still an unimaginable amount of money!”

So whats your point? Again it’s not like they didn’t earn it or their family didn’t earn it. It’s not like they aren’t using it for their companies in order to pay all their other workers. Do you understand the business owners tend not to get paid for months on end while having to pay banks and employees most of their earnings? CEOs tend to only get paid out of the profits while the rest of the billions they earn are given to the employees. A CEO may not get paid until the end of the year, it may be a lot, but they don’t usually see a cent until profits are good enough. If they aren’t ever good enough, they may never see a cent. So they did earn that unimaginable amount of money and it being as such doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to have it.