A.) That the climate is changing
B.) That punishing business and the wealthy isn't going to stop, slow down, or prevent it.
And why is that? Because the conversation about anthropocentric climate change gets co-opted by anti-capitalists that scream industry must be curtailed in the developed world (but, miraculously, not the third world) and that Europe and the rest of the developed world not only, "shouldn't be allowed to pollute," but should have to redistribute their money and more or less give blank checks to the less developed world. Supplying not just capital, but technical knowledge, solely for their benefit at our own expense.
That stops being about climate change and becomes simply about anti-capitalism and wealth redistribution, and doesn't actually address climate change. Not natural climate change, not climate change brought on by pollution and mismanagement of resources.
And this is why climate change talks break down. Because anticapitalists keep using it as a pretense to scream about how the only way to "save the earth" is to tie the developed world's hands together, disallow access to natural resources, give enormous lumps of money to warlords and plutocratic countries and cultures with no obligation for them to develop or improve conditions in order to receive said resources. And the money intended to buy carbon sequesters or develop utilities just goes to pay some plutocrats 52 babymamas, doing absolutely nothing else for anyone.
The people most ardent and avid about climate change have always approached it as a conversation opener and then deviate off into things that will not prevent the climate from changing. Because for them, it isn't about minimizing human influence on the climate. To them, the only reason the climate changes at all is just the existence of capitalism.
It wouldn't matter if the developed world eliminated waste carbon from all steps of the process entirely. It wouldn't matter if all electrical power came from nuclear, resulting in more energy to sequester carbon and not produce it and reutilize the carbon in more solid, stable forms. It wouldn't matter that we modify our livestock's diet so their flatulence no longer is either produces, nor enters the atmosphere. It's not about climate change, it's about anticapitalism for them. And nothing else.
They argue for renewables, but only those renewables and initiatives that allow them to circumvent and defeat private property rights by saying the state has a right to your wind and solar power and dominance/eminence over the means by which you produce it and distribute it on your property, arguing that, "you acknowledge the preminence of housing codes, right? :)"
They argue that nuclear isn't, "transformative enough." Which more or less means they hate nuclear because it can be monetized and privatized, and as previously covered, they hate nuclear power.
They argue about punishing and legally destroying businesses that violate environmental laws, some of which seem to be erected and force walking on eggshells with disproportionate financial punishments simply to justify dismantling them. While they acknowledge, none of these laws or rules would affect business and industry in other countries, and currently it's other countries contributing the lion's share to the problem of climate change.
They blame the developed world for the waste and largesse of the developing world, while half-acknowledging unless we go in there and conquer them and forcefully institute these things FOR THEM, there's no way to force them to comply with even things good for their health and the world's future.
Climate change to these people is purely a stick by which to use as a wedge and a sharp end to institute new rules, largely arbitrary and vibes, to prevent exploitation of resources in the west. And if the entire world is not also following these, "world saving rules," it helps nobody. You're just trying to save the neighborhood by punishing one or two houses, among hundreds. When you only care about punishment of a few families for these supposed crimes everybody is committing, it becomes brutally obvious just how you're using laws and rules and positive seeming pretenses to do so.
We can and absolutely should have rules that enable technology to sequester carbon, and other particulates, for proper and logical management. But that is extremely different from arguing both for renewable energy AND disrupting nuclear power plant growth, because, "nuclear isn't TRANSFORMATIVE enough."
Nuclear is LESS carbon producing than solar or wind, takes up less space (saving more trees and the environment) and can handle base load power for 100% of its lifespan. To be against nuclear power if you care about climate change, just proves to me it's not about "saving the world" to you. It's not about protecting minorities. It's purely about ideological views that the developed world are parasites that need to be lanced and their guts fed to less developed countries, for the crime of having something they do not yet possess. That bullshit ideological view can go starve to death at the edge of town, for all I care. It's the most unnecessary and meaningless way to fix a problem that could ever exist, and doesn't go towards solving problems.
We no sooner get a practical electric car and start getting the batteries to equal a tank of gasoline or diesel, before these shysters pivot. And suddenly, nobody should be "allowed" to own a car anymore, everybody should have to live in a tunacan city, and our developed society should have no parking space for anything but public transportation. Nobody should have private property or conveyance. Nobody should have private wealth.
No. Fuck you, you lying, duplicitious fuckers. You don't care about the climate. For you, it's a vehicle for arguing rich people shouldn't have money and business shouldn't business. At least, outside Russia, parts of South America, the Middle East, Africa and Asia.
If you want to talk about combatting climate change, and not, "Combatting climate change," focus on those things humans actually do that contributes. Arguing that eating meat shouldn't be allowed and trying to outlaw farms is the wrong way to do this. "Eating the bugs," is not the right direction to go.
Realize there are logical and reasonable limits. If the British Isles stopped 100% of all waste particulate production, it'd contribute to less than 1% of the change on earth regarding trash and carbon production. Any given country in Africa and Asia produce way more than that despite having less development. CHINA still produces over 60% of the aersol that the rest of the developed world agreed was bad and was destroying the ozone layer IN THE 80S. Do you understand that? All your legislation and good vibes and trying to use the law and government to impose restrictions on industry and tie a government, economy and military's hands together don't matter if the rest of the world WON'T COMPLY. And the bad actors get advantage that the good actors do not, giving them the upper hand from shortcuts and convenience.
And yet, some of you seem to believe that is the point. Because for many, climate change was about weaponizing pretension, not fixing a crisis. It's about blaming Europe because some island nation is sinking under the melting polar icecaps and forcing Europe to pay up for their relocation. It's about trying to create legal arguments why Europe and the developed world are on the hook to compensate every time a tsunami washes away an entire population's home, "because of climate change caused by anthropocentric influence."
And yet many of you who bang the gavel the hardest about holding developed countries responsible for the pollution and carbon and methane emitted, would stop short of arguing the UN should punish producers, like China and India, for refusing to comply with environmental regulations that you insist are SO important for westerners to follow.
So this conversation, this, "convuhsayshun", a bad pretense disguised as a feelgood chat about a natural disaster and the consequences of unregulated industry, becomes a sad parody of itself. It gets wheeled out by people with an agenda that goes way beyond preventing greenhouse gas emissions or ensuring animal safety and rights, and spirals into, "global consciousness and environmental justice." And every time they overstep, they go back to, "just wanting to have a convuhsayshun about climate change! :c :c :c :c" which isn't actually about saving the planet at all, it's just anti-capitalist and anti-westernism with a mask on.
No, you're an anticapitalist using the pretenses of natural disasters as a way to browbeat and argue for wealth redistrbution and saying this group of people over here shouldn't be allowed to engage in the same thing you're allowing this bigger group of people over there to do, and those ones do it without any of your passive aggressive, destructive, hobbling rules. Be fucking consistent and realistic, acknowledge China has more coal fired power plants now than it ever did, acknowledge Southeast Asia dumps more garbage and human waste into the oceans than Europe, Oceania or North America ever has, and sneer about them and their societies being bigger contributors, and not investing in cleaning up their own waste.
But you won't, because "climate change" discourse isn't about solving the problem of waste carbon, plastic waste in the oceans or preventing the polar ice caps from melting. It's about beating the drum against private property, private wealth and arguing white people should fit the bill whenever a South Asian country experiences a tsunami as if it was a workplace disaster in an OSHA noncompliant factory and suing the business owners.