#vilification

"If progressives have a politics that says all white people are racist, all men are toxic, and all billionaires are evil, it's kinda hard to keep them on your side. And so, we might want to think about-- if you're chasing people out of the party, you can't be mad when they leave. And maybe if we had a different politics, we actually said dignity for everybody, everybody is respected and we need you, more people might stay." -- Van Jones

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What abuser tactics look like.

Disney has spent a decade telling the traditional fanbase of franchises like Marvel, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and even their animated movie library that they're not welcome or needed by belittling, deconstructing, undermining, subverting and completely replacing the characters fans have loved for years. Resulting in billions of dollars lost in box office and streaming bombs, from 2016's "Ghostbusters" all the way through to 2024's $230m utter disaster, "The Acolyte." And then calling the fans "toxic" for criticizing it or not watching it at all.

The same is true of gaming companies, resulting in multi-million-dollar flops like Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League, Star Wars: Outlaws, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, and perhaps most notorious of all, the $400m+ Concord, which was shut down and refunded two weeks after its launch. Again, with the blame leveled at players - you know, the studios' paying customers - rather than those producing this garbage in the first place.

You're not entitled to people's support, much less their money, just because you might have had it once. Especially when you're asking them to give you their money. They don't have to put up with being vilified, demonized or even simply their needs being ignored. Your political party, franchise or game is only as good as the last thing you did for them. When you stop looking after their needs, they'll take their money or their support somewhere else.

This led some speculation of history in general or with F&B

We have some examples Richard III, Rasputin, Macbeth, Xerxes I, Nero&Domtian(some extent),Oda Nobunaga etc

The Question is

1.Where there more famous example, who vilified during history, espacially during medival times?

2.What were general Methode of such vilinization

3. How effective were These false histories how long did they held, how widespread were such narratives

4. What does tell us about our two in-universe examples histories from Gyldayn and Yandel

You raise an interesting question of how chroniclers, less bound by professional standards of historical objectivity that modern academics have established, can distort the historical record by slanting their accounts either in a positive or negative direction.

In part, this has to do with the fact that during the medieval era, there wasn't very strong boundaries between different kinds of narratives, so that history was not separate from hagiography that sought to convert people to Christianity by telling exaggerated stories of the lives of saints, atttributing all kinds of impossible virtues and dramatic incidents to them, up to and including giving them outright magical powers.

Vilification was kind of the flipside of hagiography - it borrowed from the classical tradition of invective in Roman historical works from Procopius' Secret History and all the way back to Suetonius and Tacitus etc. who had a tendency to attribute every concievable form of vice and insanity and criminality to Roman emperors who fucked with the senatorial class that historians tended to come from.

This is a lapse in judgement but I want to put out there, a word that I think needs more expression.

Pragmatophobia; the fear of reality.

If it hurts to hear what is real, if it causes fear, anxiety, anger, depression- which often it does- it that is not the fault of the ones speaking truth. By Truth, I mean real, observable, measurable by your own hands reality. Not exclusive to Honesty, which is expression of the perceived truth of ones subjective experience. (It Is vs I Feel)

I personally think, the more balanced our Objectivity is with our Subjectivity the more comfortable and confident we can feel as individuals, it takes accuracy to make meaningful progress.

Reality is being disputed passionately these days, but- its not an excuse to wish harm on either side. Malice is fundamentally to be avoided. Its nuanced, but definable and definite.

I am wishing for culture change, where intolerance is viewed negatively regardless of which group it targets. (ie, rising popularity and acceptance in hating those who are White, Cis, Straight, Christian/Catholic, Vaccinated, Unvaccinated etc.)

Being a victim doesn't provide anyone a license to be malicious, to make a victim of someone else. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

It had been a scenario Izuku had played over and over in his head ever since he had first laid eyes on All For One. When All Might had sacrificed the rest of his share of One For All, he saw how devastating All For One’s power truly was. He honestly wasn’t sure if he was ready for what was in front of him right now, but he didn’t have time for doubts or anxiety. There were people that needed saving and he was the only person powerful enough to stand up to this villain.

All For One had escaped from prison and it was his turn to put him back in. 

The second-year provisional hero stood his ground, glaring over at his arch nemesis. “I won’t let you hurt anyone else!” he declared as his body lit up in familiar green sparks from his quirk. “It ends today, All For One!” 

Raoulization: (n) fandom term, meaning the common vilification of a character in fanfics who, in the cannon material hasn’t earned that treatment.