#velvoxval

With the Vees set to play a larger role in the second season of Hazbin Hotel, I decided to make a collage on them. Since season two is airing in October, I made sure to use an image of Vox, Valentino and Velvette in their Halloween garb; as well as their pride garb to showcase their sexualities. I also wanted to showcase the difference between their previous pilot designs to their current ones.

Polycule Vee's Moodboard

Val x Vox x Vel

I'm so disappointed that ValVoxVel isn't canon, let Velvette in on the lovey-dovey tension going on <3 Feel free to use the images as profile pics btw~

So… I’m not an OG Hazbin fan. As in, I’ve only watched the pilot and the official series in two sittings last year. So I was never around for the hype, the past headcanons, and the debates over the change of the characters and their dynamics with each other.

But, I wanted to share my honest opinions and views that I had of the relationship changes within that one year.

Huskerdust:

I promise that this isn’t a bias, AND I wholly respect everyone who sees their relationship as anything but romantic. But, I can’t get into the idea of Husk being a father figure or in a mentor/mentee relationship with Angel. The only reason I can come up with why that idea came to life, is because Husk was the oldest out if everyone at the hotel (at least until they changed how aging worked with Charlie and Vaggie).

Husk is wise, but not THAT wise. Sure, I see him having fatherly traits towards someone, especially someone broken. But it’s like a Dick Grayson to Rachel Roth thing (minus the uncontrollable demon magic shit). And Angel doesn’t fit the role of “Rachel”.

In the pilot, Angel’s eyes sparkled and hit on Husk as soon as he was brought to the hotel. Even blew him a kiss at the end of the episode, and though it wasn’t animated, Husk blushed in a the storyboard of it. So they found each other attractive. Maybe not in a romantic sense (yet). But there was some interest and flustering, that was exchanged in the background. So… a little off to me if they made Husk a father figure to Angel of all people, regardless of Huskerdust shippers.

Charlie-Vaggie-Angel:

Charlie and Vaggie on the other hand—gave me mom vibes, when addressing Angel’s recklessness. Charlie seemed like the timid mom and Vaggie was the mom who’s scolding fell on deaf ears, when scolding their bratty teenager.

Both pilot and the (not sure if it’s still official) comic of Angel meeting them, gave me the impression that they had a more family dynamic.

Which is why, Charlie and Angel’s relationship becoming more brother and sister was a—maybe not big but—mild jump for me. And Vaggie was….. just there. She criticizes Angel’s actions from time to time, but she lost the nagging mom vibe I saw in the pilot.

Don’t get me wrong, I still like it. Because it includes headcanons of Angel seeing Molly through Charlie. Plus, depending on who’s on their lowest the brother-sister dynamic could change. At times Charlie looks like the older sister, being overbearing but learning to back off and let Angel fight his own battles. But other times, Angel can seem like the older one when Charlie is emotionally at her lowest.

But, I kinda do miss the gay moms and bitchy son dynamic they had. It felt like a lost potential.

The Vees:

Speaking of gay parents and their brat. I’ve heard the Vees were supposed to be just that. But, throuples/polycules aren’t represented enough in the media and the Vox’s two different relationships between Velvette and Valentino, and the fact that Velvette barely interacted with Val, gave me a different impression.

It felt more like a “business relationship” on one side and an “intimate relationship” on the other; Velvette and Valentino being tied with Vox with different motives and agreements. And so throughout every clip the Vees were in, Velvette never registered as Vox and Val’s “daughter” in my mind.

Vox and Valentino (excluding Velvette):

I’ve heard Val was supposed to be the one “in charge” in their relationship. As in, Vox is an abuse victim.

I’m glad they changed it to make it more like Val is a man-child with a short temper, while Vox is seemingly more dominant between them. Solely because of their “sinner forms” and what form of “power” they visually represent.

Aside from being a moth, Val is a typical pimp. His power (basing it off on his saliva) looks more focused on lust. Vox is obviously media-based.

And normally, when I see a techy-looking character, or someone who can control electronics like an evil AI, I immediately assume they’re all sorts of powerful, considering “the internet is a dangerous place”. For me it makes more sense that 1) Vox is the head of Vees and 2) he has a fair hold on Val’s behavior and is in charge of him acting out.

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Velvette almost always feels like Vox and Valentino favor each other over her, they've known each other much longer than they've known her in and in a poly situation they've always been together much longer than they've been with her. They're unaware of this because she refuses to communicate and instead chooses to be petty and not initiate dates or intimacy. Only when she's asked directly will she get involved, it's an unspoken rule they have to ask first because she accuses them of just doing what she says when she has to ask "if you wanted me here you'd ask first" even though they said yes

Vox feels Valentino favors Velvette, Valentino and Velvette bicker but it's nothing like what they do, he calls her babydoll, lavishes her with gifts, cuddles her, but won't do the same for Vox because he likes making Vox jealous, Velvette doesn't get that treatment because her jealousy is just anger instead of the obsessive demanding Vox does