Alt ID a white tall trans fem person wearing a white hoodie with the trans flag hangs around a medium skin toned person with a tank top or binder with trans colors, tan pants, a grey beanie, a coffe cup and curly hair. the trans fem says "I'm so glad my egg cracked otherwise I totally would have been a white surpremist by now" the second part of the comic shows the medium skinned tone person leaning away and sweating, witj the transfem person saying "I would have been so racist to you <3" the medium skinned tone person responds with "haha yeah" art peice is called nazi phase by Nash Romi End Alt ID
This is going to be my master post critiquing white tumblr transfeminism as a movement and certin individuals that I will not name because this is meant to be a discussion, not a witch hunt. I have no gripes with actual transfemminism done by Black trans women for example and transmisogny is a very real thing thay the trans community is very gulity for, for example “afab only” spaces, the demonization of “amab” enbies, the pressures against trans femminity being punished more vocally by conservatives, etc. Trans women of color have been the back bone of this community and do not fucking derail that, do not harass anyone, and do not commit transmisogny on this page. This is commentary.
This is based on my real life and online experiences as a “afab/tme” person who is Perisex, mixed race with white privlage on a coin flip, is transmasculine and I’m also disabled, poor, American and literate. When I write this, do not forget these things.
This comic is where I find most of the issues to be very honest. I see a lot of particularly gen-z and sometimes millennial trans white women who also tend to be non disabled or at least capable of lateral abelism to extreme degrees, in relatively privlaged areas of life (I.e. western countries, relatively ok class wise etc) that spent their formative years before or during their egg cracking on white surpremist spaces. I have met a decent amount of trans women who are my best friends, who I have learned the most from, who have taught me so much and I owe my life to, who have spent their time in gamer gate. Who were part of a radical tranfemminist group who called themselves an intersexist slur. Who drop the r slur. Who I’ve definitely been the victim of. Who have changed. Who agree with the sentiments that I have spoken and have been horrified to see repeated, especially in queer focused spaces (though still white)
This doesn’t mean you’re a man- obviously not. I don’t belive in the whole male socialization thing. BUT YOU STILL LIVE IN A SOCIETY. If you spend all of your time in white surpremist spaces, that are incredibly misognistic and abelist, that does affect your brain. I have similar issues due to trying to do the whole “not like other girls” phase when I was a cis woman. You are not exempt from your environment and those impacts just because you realized you’re a woman. Everyone is capable of spreading and doing bigoted things. You are not immune to that because you are a woman now. When you call trans people who are not trans fems zippertits, birthdayboys, tdickmasticized, theyfabs, cuntboys and other degrading terms you are still dehumanizing someone to their sex, a sex that is punished upon birth usually against those who are Perisex and percived as woman by society and intersex people.
Saying “afab privlage” is not all that disimilar to saying “uterus/womb privlage”. Sex assigned at birth isnt a get out of jail free card. For example, if someone who is a Perisex transmasculine person is accused of being trans fem, they can try to use their AGAB (just like you can lie about yours, which you have a right to do so) if it’s still labeled as “F” it can be taken as youve had your sex legally changed and your still a trans woman. If it is labeled as “M” then they (transmisiaists/transmisognyists) can use that to say they’re secretly a man in a dress (transmisognistic rhetoric). If it’s “other/x” or whatever equivalent, then you can still be percived as an other, a trans woman who didn’t get the correct marker on there. Is that correct? No. But do you see how AGAB doesn’t work as a defense even if “can” weaponize it? A post op trans woman can get away with lying and saying she was born AFAB then say a transmasculine person of any sort of genital surgery or lack thereof because of those accusations regarding AGAB. Cis people see a woman, preforming femminity “correctly”, with no abnormal genitals and will belive her to be a cis woman before someone who is visibly trans. Now most of the trans fem community can’t do that. This is theoretical dialectics to work with the theroetical dialectics constantly thrown at everyone else within the trans community so that’s why I bring it up.
This also gets quite muddled with intersex people- sure an intersex person may be “AFAB” but that doesn’t mean they grew up that way, nor their body did. The TME/TMA system is another binary that doesnt work because transmisia and opression in general is what is assumed- not what you are. It doesn’t work and excludes intersex people and forces them into a binary conversation that erases them while allowing them to still be harmed.
It’s also appalling to have TME/TMA applied to cis women and the rest of the trans community as if they’re equals. Everyone is capable of transmisogny, everyone is able to be affected by it, but the systemic power to do so IS NOT THE SAME. Trans masculinity and other trans people do not have the power in society that cis women have to opress trans women. Go look at trans discussions in sports. The people making false accusations and claims against trans women and intersex women? They’re cis Perisex women. Not trans masculinity. Trans masculinity just straight up isnt in the conversation. If that were to happen, that transmasculine person wouldn’t be heard (and it would still be horrible and transmisognistic as shit) but it would not play out at all the way cis Perisex women are able to do so.
It’s also horrendous considering some of our most horrific murders done to transmasculine folks has been done by cis women- particularly cis white women including cis lesbians. I have been called a theyfab for discussing this before in a previous post, complellty ignoring Sam Norquist’s GoFundMe. People would rather attack me and dehumanize me based on pronouns I don’t use, and genitals assumed and gender assumed upon birth then talk about his brutual murder and GoFundMe just because I pointed out the connection between a hyper specific niche of trans women who are bigoted from their 4chan days in the same post. Where I did not adequately explain myself like I did in this post.
I also have straight up gotten into discussions with trans femmine people who are white and active in literal right wing trans subreddits like 4tran arguing with me about this.
I’ve been a victim of transmisogny myself. I was 11, dressed up as 11 from stranger things- pink dress, jean jacket, blond wig etc. I was on a school bus. I was accused of being a boy in a dress. I said I wasn’t. I had already have my period for two years, had boobs etc. I pulled off my wig to show my hair, I had shown my school ID with my sex on it. And my dress was still pulled up, my underwear pulled down while kicking these boys and still checked to be seen whether I was a boy or not. They didn’t belive me. They fucking laughed and laughed and laughed. Because transphobes don’t care what you actually are. You are simply other and theirs to control. My sex did not protect me, and did not work. I tried to use it and it failed. I’ve gotten the response to literal sexual assault that I was privlaged to be able to use my AGAB. That’s the thing though. AGAB is something you can lie about. Anyone can lie about their AGAB to save their asses. That’s what Perisex trans people have done when claiming to be intersex back in the day to get the HRT and protection against the law for “cross dressing”. It doesn’t work because I was not woman enough for them. I did not preform woman good enough and that was enough to enact transmisognistic violence and my “privlage” failed.
Trans women are women no matter what. That does not absolve white trans women from their whiteness, and the fact that some do have some fucking shitty ass nazi pasts that are clearly evident. Also at the end of the day- a white trans woman who is in the closet will be mostly percived (wrongly) as a white man. No gender or sex opression will occur outwardly to that person without correctly assuming they’re a woman unprompted. That cannot apply to white transmasculinity. Regardless of what one does, closet or out transmasculinity will always face sex and gender opression. It’s fucked uo but I’m speaking to what transmisiaists see- how opression works. Not how identity works. Obviously it doesn’t mean you’re a man. Your still a woman. I’m just speaking to what opression would look like.
At the end of the day, in countries where women still cannot vote not allowed to read, transmasculine people will be punished by sex and by gender. In those countries, transfems who boymode will still have those privlages. Transfems transition from privlaged to opressed, while transmasculine folks transition from opression to more opression then before transition.
Trans masculinity also has issues with misogny- seeing binary trans men on r/FTM have gender euphoria about women being scared of them on the street disgusts and horrifies me beyond belief. That for example is the fact that misogny is baked into society and that everyone has to deconstruct it.
Also, I hate the term transmisandry for similar reasons. The hate that transmasculinity recived is not the same at all to hatred and fear of cis men in the same way. Which btw isnt good particularly towards men of color, intersex men and disabled men but it is still not carrying the same weight as misogny.
Also! Hot take transandromisia can also be experienced by trans fems. And misapplied to cis people just like transmisogny does. Both are nuanced words that are important and discuss nuances rhat transphobia as a word doesn’t fully encapsulate. Just different ways. Transfemminism is a good thing. One should read actual tranfemminist works and watch video essays from Black trans women about what actual transfemminism is! What is going on in tumblr is just 4chan with white women coating.
Also everyone is being wildly intersexist by erasing intersex voices and position in this conversation that is something I am trying to work on and that we all need to work on.
Again, this is my thoughts and this is a discussion not a witch hunt. Regardless of who you are, please drink water. Please take your meds as needed. Please eat food. I want this community to be stronger and hold fast together. I wish for us to better ourselves continually. I hope this helps at least one person. Again transmisogny will not be tolerated, nor any sort of bigotry. People can also change. If someone is in this sort of mindset, especially if they’re calling themselves a hun and you can do so, please reach out. If you find yourself doing misognistic behavior please reach out. You are not a horrible person, you just have to work on yourself and I’m genuinely more than happy to work with people who want that. You do not have to be perfect to recive help. You are more than worth care. This is a safe space for anyone who is trying to genuinely engage with this and is not harassing or dismissing anyone’s livd exeperiences. If there’s anything I can do to improve my post with transmisogny, intersex advocacy, accesibility or anything else please let me know.
I hope y’all have a lovely rest of yalls day.
