๐โยฐ๏ฝกโโกThe 8th & 12th House Synastry Cycleโยฐ๏ฝกโโก
8th house synastry has always felt like standing too close to a fire you didnโt mean to build, yet somehow canโt step away from.
It is made of contradictions that donโt cancel each other out, but instead coexist, burning side by side.
The highs arrive first. They always do. They arrive in quiet realizations that escape your mouth before your mind can stop them, you say to yourself, "I am in love" and it feels obvious, it feels inevitable. Their presence rearranges your internal landscape. You find yourself placing them above everything else without hesitation. You show them loyalty not because they asked for it, but because the idea of them doubting you feels unbearable.
And then, as you two go your separate ways, the lows arrive just as suddenly as the highs once did.
Not gently, but like a door closing in another room, one you didnโt even realize was still open until the silence began to echo.
You become numb. Careless. Irritable at things that are not really the problem. You pull away from conversation, not because you donโt care, but because you canโt seem to care about anything at all. Not like before. Not in color.
Their presence had ignited something chemical, something alive, a rush of warmth and light that made everything else feel meaningful by proximity. And now, without it, the world returns in grayscale.
So nothing else quite reaches you, and nothing else stays.
Days pass and then inevitably so, you see them again.
But this time one part of you acts out of fear. They walk into the room, and you tell yourself "I don't want to burden them" and in trying to minimize the emotional charge and tension, you act distant, you make an effort to make them think you don't need them, not because it's true, but because you're scared of showing them how much you do care for them, and so fear speaks before truth.ย
You oscillate, you go back and forth, showing intense loyalty to avoidance.ย
Eye contact becomes language. Across crowded rooms, your eyes search for them before you even realize youโre looking. And when you find them, there is that moment โ that quiet, overwhelming realization of finally being seen, of being accepted without effort, and it fills you completely. You canโt help but smile when they are near. Your eyes speak the million words your voice is too afraid to carry, and the questions you buried deep within yourself dissolve in their presence. Nothing needs to be asked. Nothing needs to be explained.
You know you like them.
You know you want them.
You know that you can let your walls fall down with them.
And it is the absence of questioning that changes everything. In not questioning, something steadies inside you. Something roots itself. It becomes an anchor, it feels unfamiliar, but undeniable.
A kind of self-reassurance you have never known before.
And because it feels like safety, you become afraid of losing the part of yourself that only exists when their eyes meets yours.
On days where expectations are not met, the absence of their attention buries you like an avalanche; and this pit in your stomach consumes you completely.
So you become aware of everyone else in proximity to them. You notice their laughter with others. You feel jealousy coil quietly in your chest. You compare the way you feel when they stand next to you โ the warmth, the expansion โ to the emptiness you feel when someone else stands there instead.
There is no comparison. There never is.
The highs can last for days. So can the lows.
And somehow, even in the uncertainty, the possibility of loving them takes precedence over everything else. You want them to know. You need them to know.
And sometimes, in a room full of people, you canโt help but tell them with your eyes alone.
"I want you."
But then, after time, the 12th house arrives like fog over still water.
It doesnโt extinguish the fire. It obscures it.
Not all at once. Not enough to alarm you. Just enough to blur the edges of something that once felt unmistakably clear.
What was once instinct becomes hesitation.
You begin to question things you never questioned before. You wonder if you mean anything to them, if they dream of you too, if they want you as much as you want them. The spaces between your interactions grow longer, heavier, filled with uncertainty you canโt ignore.
Doubt is quiet, but invasive.
You wonder if you imagined it. If maybe you projected depth onto something that was never as deep for them. The certainty you once carried so effortlessly now feels fragile in your hands. Now there is confusion. Hesitation. Fear living in the spaces between what is said and what is felt. Insecurities embed themselves quietly, like roots beneath the surface. Fear begins to disguise itself as intuition.
You tell yourself to be careful. Not to assume. Not to lean too much into something that has never been spoken aloud. And without realizing it, you begin to withhold parts of yourself that once came naturally. The fog doesnโt destroy the connection, it makes you unsure of where you stand and in that uncertainty, you stop moving toward them.
The intensity that once felt undeniable begins to feel questionable.
And now fear becomes the author of your behavior.
So one of you steps back.
Not because the feeling is gone, but because the uncertainty has become louder than the unexplainable knowing you feel when their eyes meet yours. And the other, sensing the shift without words, steps back twice as far. Neither of you asks why. Neither of you says what is happening. Silence becomes the loudest thing between you. And slowly, you both begin to rewrite the story to protect yourselves.
"They didnโt like me."
"They never did."
They walk into the room, and your body reacts before your mind can intervene. Your chest tightens. Your awareness sharpens. Every part of you turns toward them in quiet recognition.
But instead of moving closer, you retreat inward.
A thought appears, curious but commanding:
"Did they ever like me? Was this all in my head?"
You convince yourself your feelings are too much. Too heavy. Too visible. To feel this much with no foundation scares you, it scares you because you can't make sense of it. You can't understand why the tension rises when they are in the room, and you fear that if they truly saw the depth of it, they might feel trapped, obligated and overwhelmed.
So you do the only thing fear knows how to do.
You conceal.
You soften your gaze when you want to hold it. You speak to others with rehearsed ease, careful to construct the image of someone whole and unaffected.
Someone who does not need.
Especially not them.
You make sure they see this version of you.
Not because itโs true.
But because it feels safer than being known.
There is a particular pain in pretending you donโt care while caring more than you ever have. It is a quiet self-betrayal. You split yourself in two: the one who feels, and the one who performs.
And sometimes, in protecting yourself from rejection, you create the very distance you were afraid of.
They notice. Of course they notice.
They see your distance and interpret it as disinterest. They see your independence and assume they were never necessary to you. Your silence becomes their answer.
So they withdraw too.
And now, both of you stand on opposite sides of a divide neither of you wanted, each believing you are respecting the otherโs absence. Both of you acting out of fear.
Fear spoke first.
And truth becomes something buried, not something named, it becomes something you only feel, but no longer trust.
Dismissiveness is mirrored. Distance is mirrored. Indifference is performed so convincingly it begins to feel real. A self-sabotaging prophecy written by two people too afraid to ask for truth.
The anxious one feels it first โ the severance. Not physically, but energetically. Like a cord that once hummed with life has gone still. They feel the block. They feel something shift into something unreachable.
They replay every moment. Every glance. Every silence. They wonder if it meant anything. If they meant anything.
The avoidant one chooses the opposite survival.
They move on. Or try to. They date people who do not stir them. They choose eyes that do not see too deeply. They choose connections that ask nothing of them.
Because emotion means confusion.
And confusion means rejection.
So they convince themselves there was never anything there to begin with.
One holds onto memory.
One suppresses what was felt.
Both feel the absence. And then, time passes. Lives unfold.
Until one day, inevitably, they find themselves in the same room again.
And before either of them can stop it, their eyes meet. And the fire, which neither of them ever truly extinguished, begins to burn again.
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ruler of your 1H in their 9H in synastry can indicate a long distance relationship, or traveling playing a significant role in this pairing
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ the partners may have differing backgrounds, i.e. being raised in different countries, being of different ethnicities/race, having different religious/spiritual beliefs, etc. the 1H person may feel that their identity and the way that they navigate through the world is significantly impacted by the 9H personโs ideologies and beliefs
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ the 1H person could feel like they learn a lot from the 9H person, and might find themselves feeling more introspective around them. the 9H person may feel that despite the difference in their upbringings, they see something in the way that the 1H person carries themselves that is admirable, and may even inspire the 9H person to explore different ways of thinking and learning. they could also find themselves wanting to teach the 1H person about their culture and traditions, or about their own personal beliefs
saturn conjunct juno in synastry can manifest as both partners having the same shared principles in regards to their needs for stability and commitment in their relationships
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ if this is a stronger aspect in the synastry chart, there's probably a good sense of dependability that the pair feels for one another, and an inclination to sustain a fulfilling, long-term relationship. saturn will usually be the one who takes the lead and provides structure to the relationship, while juno fortifies the foundation. it is possible for saturn to overstep or be too authoritative at times with the conjunction, which is why it's important maintain a sense of understanding between one another, as well as space for individuality to exist within the relationship
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ saturn can act as a stable, guiding force in juno's life, and juno typically views saturn as a source of wisdom. this aspect can also indicate there being a difference in age or maturity levels, with saturn usually being the older or more "mature" person in the partnership
ascendant sextile jupiter in synastry can indicate a connection defined by spiritual fulfillment and abundance
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect there's usually an instant "click" between the two upon first meeting, and they could even feel as though they were destined to find one another. jupiter is not only physically attracted to the ascendant, but feels as though there is an innate understanding of one another's values. the two may even share personal beliefs, or have interests in the same topics or follow the same spiritual practices
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this tends to be a very optimistic pairing, especially on jupiter's behalf, as jupiter is genuinely devoted to helping facilitate the ascendant person's personal and spiritual growth. the ascendant person in this equation is typically very appreciative of jupiter's uplifting nature, and may even enjoy going on adventures with jupiter and learning alongside them throughout their journey as partnersl
ceres conjunct pluto in synastry may manifest as a deep bond between two people that provides an extremely nurturing and innately protective nature to their relationship
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is a connection that can be very emotionally intense, both parties will experience themes of rebirth and renewal through this relationship. the way that pluto navigates their need for nourishment and emotional fulfillment will be triggered through their connection to ceres. this can result in pluto surrendering their need for control and allowing ceres to provide comfort through this phase of renewal. or, this can manifest as pluto becoming resistant when faced with their ideals surrounding being cared for, and doubling-down on their need for control. pluto tends to be very protective of ceres with this aspect, and can potentially be too overbearing at times
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ depending on how the energy of this conjunction manifests, the transformation brought on by this aspect can be life changing. when this energy is productively channeled, both partners navigate this deeply spiritual bond with wholehearted support for one another. ceres will usually be the person that pluto feels truly understands them, while pluto reciprocates that empathy and leads ceres through their personal and spiritual evolution and growth. thereโs a post i came across that said something along the lines of โit hurts to be misunderstood, but are you ready to not run away the day that you find someone who truly understands you?โ and honestly, i feel like that summarizes this aspect best
sun square north node in synastry is indicative of a karmic/past life connection, there is apparent wounding that needs to be worked through in relationships where this type of aspect is present
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ when these natives meet, it typically feels as though theyโve known each other for their entire lives. ultimately, these types of connections are meant to push the natives to evolve beyond the reoccurring lessons they keep encountering. with this aspect, the sun may feel stifled or insecure in their identity. while the NN genuinely wants whatโs best for the sun, they may feel as though their intent constantly gets lost in translation. the NN personโs attempts to aid the sun person in expressing themselves may inadvertently trigger the sun personโs sense of self
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is usually a connection that people find extremely difficult to break away from. it definitely takes people who are very mature and know how to navigate conflict in a healthy way to be able to maintain a relationship with this being a prominent aspect. regardless, the most relevant part of experiencing a connection like this finally succumbing to and receiving the lesson youโre being presented with
ruler of your 8H square their neptune in synastry can indicate difficulty with idealization, both partners may struggle to see one another for who they actually are
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this can manifest as conflict regarding the pairโs shared resources. with this aspect, the planet that has rulership over the 8H plays a significant role in how this energy plays out. i.e. if saturn has rulership over the 8H, the saturn person may grow to resent the neptune person and their โimpracticalโ nature, while the neptune person may grow to view saturn as too impersonal and controlling. if this a prominent aspect in the chart, this relationship could be unhealthy. these natives could run into financial issues or debt, or even potential addiction or abuse
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ depending on the full context of the chart(s), i could definitely see there being potential to actually work through this square and maintain a positive, productive relationship. both parties (specifically neptune) have to work towards knowing when itโs time to lead with their head and not their heart. this can be a very spiritual connection, and the natives involved have to put in the effort to not fall prey to the depths of neptune or the idle energy of the 8H by instilling boundaries and prioritizing clear and honest communication between each other
moon square mars in synastry may show a deeply passionate connection, but misunderstandings and conflict can be present and reoccurring
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ while moon/mars aspects tend to signify a level of magnetism or sexual attraction between the two parties, these natives could find it difficult to express their emotions in a healthy, constructive way, specifically with the square. with this dynamic, the moon could find themselves feeling triggered by mars, and ultimately feel as though their needs for emotional support and nourishment arenโt be fulfilled. on the other hand, mars may feel held back or stunted by the moon, or feel as though the moon doesnโt share the same determination for their goals and generally feels unsupported in the relationship
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ emotions on both ends can be extremely intense, with the moon usually being more inclined to react more hastily. with this aspect, the moon usually has to work through any potential codependency that marsโ behavior invokes, while mars has to put more energy into being more considerate about how their actions and attitude impact the moon. ultimately, this is a very passionate pair, and they tend to be extremely devoted to one another regardless of their differences or the challenges they encounter
venus square uranus in synastry can indicate a connection that is very spontaneous and unpredictable in nature
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ while this aspect can bring an abundance of creativity and be a source of inspiration for the natives, it also has the capacity to cause instability within a relationship. uranusโ clever, rebellious nature is something that venus is initially attracted to, but after a while that admiration can boil over into annoyance or frustration, as venus feels they canโt rely on uranus to provide a sense of stability and harmony within their bond. this can also manifest as a long distance partnership, or a pairing where one partner (usually uranus) travels significantly more than the other
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ on the other hand, uranus could begin to feel restricted by venus, and struggle to maintain and express their independence in the connection. ultimately, both parties will have to adapt and compromise for one anotherโs needs. uranus may need to work to find balance between prioritizing venusโ desire for security and maintaining their sense of individuality in the relationship. while venus provides uranus with a level of excitability in the relationship and grants them their space when needed
sun conjunct saturn in the composite chart can manifest as a relationship where both parties uphold the same values around structure and tradition
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is an aspect that definitely gives "power couple" energy. while they may not be the most outwardly romantic pair or partake in PDA, they're extremely mature and tend to excel when working as a team, as they push one another to achieve both their personal and shared goals. with saturn here, this can be a very karmic relationship as well. this pair deeply values the connection they have with one another, and seek to maintain a long-term partnership. they may even feel an innate sense of responsibility for one another, and tend to navigate their relationship in a more traditional way
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this pair may also run into issues when it comes to competing for the role of "leader" in the relationship, as one or both partners can be too domineering at times. they may need to work towards finding and maintaining balance in terms of power distribution, as to not bump heads with one another and hold space for each other's thoughts and feelings without judgement. this is a couple that may do well in business together, or may have even met one another through their careers as well
ruler of the 6H in the 10H in the composite chart indicates a connection where is a shared desire to be of service to others through their professions
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this pair strives to help others, and they're typically viewed as a very generous couple. their work may entail advocating on behalf of the disenfranchised or underprivileged, and they could both be deeply invested in their careers. although, this dedication may come at the expense of one or both partners' health, as there can be a tendency to overextend themselves in order to accomplish their goals. these natives have to be mindful of how they approach their careers, as whatever challenges they encounter can deeply impact their well being, and potentially interfere with their day to day life
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ the planet that has rulership in this placement will provide more context into how the energy plays out. for example, if the moon has rulership over the 6H, there will be a shared emotional investment in the work that this couple does. this would intensify the way that their careers or public perception affects the way that they navigate their relationship, and can potentially impact their mental health as well. boundaries and healthy habits need to be implemented here, as the couple may grow overwhelmed when they feel can't reach the goals they've set in place. generally, this would be another placement that's indicative of working well as a team, as there's a strong, unshakeable sense of support between these two natives
chiron trine mercury in the composite chart can manifest as a pairing that finds healing and compassion through expressing themselves to one another
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this couple may feel extremely comfortable opening up to one another about past hurt or strife in their lives. depending on the strength of this aspect, these natives tend to feel safe around one another and find that communication leads to personal and spiritual evolution for both of them. this doesn't mean that misunderstandings won't arise, just that when they do, there's usually an innate ease to working through that conflict, and therefore less of a likelihood for hard feelings to be harbored
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this couple could also "share a brain" in a sense, and they're usually the type to finish each other's sentences and communicate with one another through body language and eye contact. they also could've faced similar challenges growing up in terms of insecurities surrounding their self-expression. this is an aspect that tends to be very wholesome and beneficial, as the innate, intellectual bond that these natives have typically makes for deeply empathetic, nourishing relationship
black moon lilith sextile venus in the composite chart can indicate a pairing that navigates their love for one another in an intense yet unconventional kind of way
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, the partners usually feel seen and understood for who they really are, and therefore find it easier to express the more raw, underlying parts of their psyche that they've grown used to suppressing for others. the parts of their identities that they feel ashamed of (or were shamed for), are the very traits and characteristics that their partner falls in love with. this can be a very creative connection, and the two may feel innately inspired by their relationship
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this can also be a very sensual aspect, as the two may feel comfortable enough to explore intimacy and sex in a way that feels freeing and liberating to them. the two may have to practice reigning the energy of lilith in, as with this aspect they can grow "too comfortable" and over do it at times (not as much as with the challenging aspects though). ultimately, this is a pair that not only respects one another's independent nature, but encourage it. they both grant each other the freedom to express their individuality outside of the relationship, which is ultimately what's most important to the two of them
ruler of the 12H conjunct the ascendant in the composite chart may indicate a connection that is defined by it's deep spiritual nature
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is a relationship that the couple may keep private and to themselves, and typically has a significant impact on the psyches of both parties, for better or for worse. others may view the couple as very "secretive", and/or mischaracterize their relationship. these two could also bond with one another through their shared experiences of the "darker" aspects of life. they're also usually very protective of the bond they share, and view what they have with one another as sacred and worth safeguarding from others
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, there can be a tendency to over-idealize the connection at times, and both parties will have to work to view their relationship for what it actually is, not the romanticized version of it in their heads. the planet that has rulership over the 12H adds a significant amount of context as to how this energy will manifest. for example, if jupiter has rules the 12H and is conjunct the ascendant, this would intensify the spiritual nature of the relationship. the couple may be viewed as charitable, wise, and fortunate, and while they could struggle with practical matters, jupiter's cushioning may end up protecting them in the long run
jupiter opposite pluto in the composite chart can manifest as power struggles regarding one or both partners' resources
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is an aspect that can indicate fruitful abundance (material and/or spiritual) within a relationship. these two may also have a shared resistance towards authority, or have personal philosophies that go against the grain of societal norms. although, this can also indicate a struggle to express one's personal ideologies, or to pursue their aspirations, without the other feeling imposed upon. this feeling of constraint can lead the two to behaving in ways that are selfish or manipulative as a means to maintain a sense of authority
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ these natives may encounter conflict or challenges stemming from a need to control in every single aspect of the relationship, specifically when in it comes to finances. ultimately, this pair must put more effort towards finding and maintaining balance, and working with each other instead of against. when evolved, this is an aspect that can lead the natives to building a productive, bountiful life with one another through releasing the shared need for power and control in their connection
chiron square moon in the composite chart may indicate that past painful experiences have the potential to impact the couple's ability to connect with one another
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, the natives can encounter challenges regarding their emotional compatibility. this aspect is also indicative of both parties having some sort of wounding surrounding the mother or early childhood that negatively affects how they provide (or canโt provide) nourishment for one another. themes of emotional avoidance or co-dependency can show up in this connection as well
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ ultimately, this is a connection that can have a profound impact on both parties involved, and in the best case scenario will influence the two to work through the hurt and trauma that this connection triggers and brings up for them. with time and effort, they can work to show up for not only each other, but themselves as well, in a way that is healthy, honest, and validating
mars square saturn in the composite chart can manifest as a lack of security that evolves into themes of power and control
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, the natives both feel as though they know what is best not only for the relationship, but for their partners as well. this is another aspect that can indicate that the pair is extremely headstrong, and challenges may be frequent. they're both extremely passionate, and can assert themselves in ways that make the other feel anxious or insecure. independence can be something that these two inherently value, and they may struggle to express their autonomy without fearing retaliation or conflict from each other
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is another pair that will have to work towards seeing the value in what they can build together, instead of (purposefully or not) tearing each other down. there's a balance that needs to be implemented, which will require work on behalf of both of them as individuals. eventually, these two can evolve to the point of playing to one another's strengths, and in turn fortifying the strong, stable connection that both of them seek out of their relationship
ruler of your 7H in their 8H in synastry can indicate a partnership that is defined by a merging of resources and is deeply transformative in nature
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is a connection that can impact both natives in extremely profound ways, especially on a psychological (and sexual) level. this may be a relationship that is private or potentially kept secret from others, the pair may be very protective of what they have together and of one another, specifically the 8H person. finances will be a significant factor as well. these two may excel as business partners or gain monetarily through their connection, or they may lose money and potentially encounter some form of debt, depending on the full context of the synastry chart.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ the planet that has rulership over the 7H will ultimately determine how this energy manifests. for example, if the sun has rulership over the 7H, the 7H person may approach partnerships in a way that is courageous and self-assured in nature. the confidence that the 7H person exudes will have an intense impact on the 8H person's psyche, for better or for worse. the 7H person may be the one to pull the 8H person out of their shell and offer comfort and stability both in terms of romance and material gain.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ the 8H person will also have a significant impact on the 7H person's identity and how they navigate partnerships. ultimately, this is a pair that can benefit not only in terms of resources, but spiritually as well, as these two tend to understand each other on a deeply intimate and vulnerable level.
sun sextile juno in synastry can indicate a very productive and supportive bond between two partners
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this pairing, the very way that the sun person carries themselves is precisely what the juno person values and seeks out of a partner. juno could admire the way that the sun expresses their ideas and creativity, and even look to them for guidance in terms of how they navigate their own individuality. the sun appreciates junoโs adoration for them, and will usually go out of their way to encourage junoโs own personal self-expression.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this aspect can offer a sense of balance and mutual understanding between two partners. these two may share common interests in terms of what they want out of life and how to attain it, usually with the sun being more proactive in building the ideal life for the pair, while juno is there to offer support and maintain a sense of stability within the relationship.
their venus conjunct mars in your 7H in synastry can manifest as an extremely magnetic and amorous connection
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is a pairing that tends to be immediately drawn to each other upon meeting and find one another irresistible. these two can be a very attractive couple, both energetically and physically. the venus conj. mars native ignites an extremely intense sensual energy within this relationship, while the 7H person is more likely to be the one providing a solid building ground to fortify the relationship.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ while there is potential for this connection to evolve into a long-term, steady relationship, the venus conj. mars nativeโs dedication to the 7H person could be fleeting. venus conj. mars natives require a level of excitability from their relationships, and they may struggle if they feel their passion is not being reciprocated by the 7H person. it may not be something theyโre forthright about depending on the sign the conjunction is in, but the venus conj. mars native will typically crave attention and validation from the 7H person, and may grow resentful or unhappy with the relationship if that need is not being fulfilled.
your venus in their 5H in synastry can manifest as a fruitful, playful, lighthearted energy in a connection
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ these two may share common artistic interests, and can even excel when working together creatively. the two have an appreciation for one anotherโs talents and can motivate each other to excel in their fields, resulting in them being viewed as a "power couple" to those around them. this pair tends to be very romantic and flirty in nature, and depending on the full context of the synastry chart, they can definitely be one of those couples that have amazing chemistry and constantly feel the same butterflies they felt upon initially meeting one another.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ venus here tends to be more of the "giver" in this exchange. they may be extremely devoted to the 5H and willing to look past whatever flaws they may have, for better or for worse. venus could also feel jealous at times, as they enjoy being doted on by the 5H person and struggle when they give that attention to anyone else, but these feelings are typically half-hearted and don't last for long.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ on the other hand, the 5H person usually values venus' appreciation for them, and reciprocates by cherishing venus and the ways in which they motivate them. although, these two have to ensure that they're on the same page in terms of commitment, as the 5H person may view their connection as more of a "fling", while venus seeks something far more substantial. ultimately, this tends to be a beneficial connection for both parties in terms of the inspiration they derive from one another, so long as the two can maintain balance and not overindulge in the pleasure produced by this bond.
mars opposite pluto in synastry can indicate an intense and potentially volatile connection between two people
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ if this is one of the stronger aspects in a synastry chart, then this most likely going to be a connection where the two are constantly triggering one another, whether it be consciously or subconsciously. these two can be extremely headstrong, and could constantly be competing for the dominant role within the relationship. power dynamics can be significant role here, as both partners tend to want to act out if they feel controlled by the other in any way shape or form.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ despite this, there tends to be a magnetism that pulls them together and keeps them together, for better or for worse. mars here tends to be enamored by the profound intensity that pluto provides, while pluto is attracted to the proactive, assertive nature of mars. although, over time the appreciation for one another's qualities can quickly devolve into feeling threatened by their characteristics. this is an aspect that can influence a "fight or fuck" dynamic within the relationship, and while this may be a dynamic that works for the two initially, it's not something that's substantial enough to maintain balance in the long run.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ while this aspect can be tumultuous, it's not impossible for the pair to work through their differences and evolve to a point where they can work together instead of against each other. these two usually have to work towards finding more productive ways to express their pent up frustration that isn't just make up sex. it may benefit the two to assess how the energies of their mars and pluto play out in their own natal charts, work through those energies individually, and then approach their relationship from a more communicative and self-aware standpoint.
ascendant square uranus in synastry can manifest as a relationship that is spontaneous in nature and potentially imbalanced
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, these two may bump heads frequently in terms of their individuality and how they express themselves. typically, sparks fly when these two meet and there's a level of excitability they initially have in their connection. but this pair may eventually struggle to show up in this relationship without feeling like they're "subduing" parts of themselves. their independence may be of great importance to both of them, especially uranus. they tend to feel like they cannot fully express themselves in their partnership, or feel imposed upon when one or the other does so.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this can be an unconventional relationship generally speaking, but also in terms of how they both show up as partners. these two may need more space apart from one another than the average couple to be able to function happily in their connection. this can also manifest as the ascendant being more "traditional" in the way that they approach their relationships, and in turn feeling as if they cannot rely on uranus. ultimately, both parties may need to compromise in order to feel fulfilled and sustain a long-term connection.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ although, there are still benefits to this connection whether the two are able to recognize it or not, as this aspect forces them to evolve and look beyond their own personal perspectives in order to learn and gain knowledge from their partner, especially in terms of innovation and social awareness. ultimately, this pair can grow to recognize the importance of their own personal self-expression and come to value what freedom really means to them.
ruler of their 12H in your 1H in synastrycan indicate a deeply karmic, spiritual connection that profoundly impacts the natives
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ in this connection, the 1H person is typically drawn to the "mystic" nature of the 12H person. the 1H person may look to the 12H person as a source of wisdom and seek guidance from them. the 12H person, whether consciously or subconsciously, influences the way that the 1H person views themselves and the way that they navigate through life. the 12H person might not even be someone who is normally characterized as mysterious or secretive, but for the 1H person, they may be able to pick up on the subconscious nature of the 12H person and feel inclined to explore the underlying motives behind their behavior and thought process.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this can also manifest in the opposite way, where the 12H person is able to read the 1H person like the back of their hand. this can make for a bond that is extremely healing in nature, as these two may feel like they understand one another on a level that nobody else can, and can therefore offer much needed comfort and support, especially for the 12H person. on the flip side, this can also indicate a connection that can influence manipulative or underhanded behavior. because they can connect with one another on such a deep level, it could lead them to weaponizing their weaknesses against each other.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ ultimately, the planet that has rulership here will offer more context into how this energy plays out. for example, if saturn is the planetary ruler, the 12H person may push the 1H person to do better and be better, which in of itself isn't inherently negative, but the 1H person may struggle with feeling as though that the standards that the 12H person is setting are impossible to reach, which can be detrimental to their self worth. in the context of this placement, the 12H person may need to reel it in at times and ensure that they can offer foresight and guidance without making the 1H person feel like they aren't good enough.
moon square ceres in synastry can indicate differing attachment styles and emotional conflict in a relationship
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, one or both partners may struggle with feeling as though their emotional needs are not being met. typically, whatever potential wounding the moon has in regards to their upbringing (the mother/maternal connection specifically) will more than likely be triggered by the way that ceres goes about displaying affection. for example, if the moon grew up not receiving much nourishment and are used to more "practical" ways of being shown love, it may feel overbearing if ceres is someone who shows love through hugs and cuddling, or by connecting on a deeper, more emotional level.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ as a result, ceres may feel like they're efforts are going unappreciated, and ultimately feel as though the moon person doesn't love them, when in reality, these two do legitimately love each other, they just go about expressing love and the way they need to receive it in different ways. this is definitely an aspect that can be worked through, and can influence a very powerful bond between the two. these natives can learn a lot about themselves through their emotional connection to one another, and it can be very rewarding when the two do eventually get to a point where they feel emotionally taken care of and nurtured by one another.
ruler of the 4H conjunct mercury in the composite chart can manifest as themes surrounding home and security being prevalent within a relationship
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ these two usually have shared interests and goals regarding how they navigate their domestic lives. matters of the home can be of great importance to them, and they may have had similar experiences in their childhoods that allows them to easily connect with one another. they could also come from similar cultures, share the same cultural traditions, or be the same ethnicity.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ they can grow close with each other's families, and could see building a family and/or home together as a priority. or, this could manifest as not necessarily being "close" with each other's families or wanting a family/home of their own, but rather these connections and ideals having a significant (positive or negative) impact on the way that they communicate and navigate their relationship as a whole.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ as mentioned, the planet that has rulership here will offer more context into how this energy plays out. for example, if the sun holds rulership over the 4H, this would essentially heighten the significance of the domestic life in this relationship. their upbringings could play a vital role in how well they communicate with one another. if they share similar values then it should be more of a "productive" communication, whereas if they were taught opposing ideals growing up, they may encounter obstacles when trying to connect with one another. this can also indicate a pairing that is more on the private side when it comes to their relationship.
uranus sextile pluto in the composite chart can indicate a bond where individuality and growth is encouraged
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, there can be an intensity that defines the nature of this relationship. this tends to be a very creative, artistically gifted pair, and they may even view one another as their "muse" in a sense. this can also be an ever-changing connection, not necessarily in an unstable way, but more so in an evolutionary type of way. this is a pair that is constantly rediscovering themselves, and instead of that posing a threat to the relationship, it actually improves and strengthens the bond that they share
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ these two want to see each other grow, and they could even enjoy the process of having to "rediscover" their partner over and over again. there's usually a lack of judgement in this relationship, and they may even feel inclined to bare the darker sides of themselves to one another. this is a relationship where the unconventional is very much welcomed, and they may share ideals that are unorthodox or deemed "radical" by social standards. this pair could also view sex as something that is extremely liberating, and will usually go out of their way to explore more unconventional, kinkier sides to intimacy, especially in terms of domination or power dynamics.
jupiter conjunct the IC in the composite chart can manifest as shared philosophies playing a significant role in how they navigate their private lives
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this tends to be a very abundant connection and indicates good fortune is to be found in the couple's domestic lives. these two tend to be a source of inspiration for one another, and they may have common interests in terms of how they approach matters of the family and home. they make seek to build a foundation together that is generous, warm, and hospitable. they could be a couple that others lean on for support, or look to for guidance and understanding.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this pair may also be very spiritual. they recognize how important and sacred the connection they share is, and as a result can feel inclined to keep it private as a means of protecting it. jupiter being conjunct the IC in the composite chart also means that jupiter is opposite the midheaven, which indicates that while the two share an optimistic approach to their personal life, they may struggle navigating how to implement that same positivity in their public life at times. this couple may need to work towards maintaining balance between these two facets of their lives, but ultimately, the benefic energy of jupiter will typically work in their favor, alongside their shared ideals and outlook on the world.
ruler of the 7H trine black moon lilith in the composite chart can manifest as the independent nature of both partners playing a major role in how they navigate their partnership
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, there's typically a shared understanding and need for both partners to express their individuality without feeling impeded upon. with the trine here, they both tend to respect one another's power, and may even be attracted to the parts of each other that they may have been convinced to suppress or be ashamed of. this is a pair that doesn't attempt to control or stifle one another's deeper, more primitive urges, in fact, they tend to actively encourage it, and may even fulfill these desires as a means to further connect with and heal one another.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ as mentioned, the planet that has rulership here will provide greater context into how this energy plays out. for example, if mars has rulership over the 7H, it may further amplify BML's urges and primal desires. this couple can come off as very domineering to others, and tend to be very evidently infatuated with each other. they can act as motivating forces and push one another to achieve their goals, and encourage them to unapologetically be themselves in the process of doing so.
moon conjunct pluto in the composite chart can manifest as a passionate connection that deeply impacts the two on a emotional and psychological level
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this aspect indicates that this relationship is anything but light hearted, once this pair sinks their teeth into one another it's extremely hard to pull them apart. this relationship brings up intense emotions for both parties, and they may feel as though they've never been understood on the level at which they are in this connection. while this can push the couple to grow and evolve spiritually, it may also bring about feelings of possessiveness and manipulative behavior in the worst case scenario.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ they can struggle with feeling as though they can't live without one another, while at the same time struggling with how intense the connection is and wanting to run away from it. these two typically have to work towards maintaining some form of balance, both in themselves and in the way that they approach and navigate this relationship, as it can begin to feel all-consuming at times. it's best for this pair to instill boundaries and give each other their space when needed.
neptune square north node in the composite chart can indicate a relationship that is very spiritual, yet elusive in nature
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, the couple may struggle to see this relationship for what it actually is, versus what they want it to be. this is a pair that is essentially meant to come together and remove the rose-colored lenses from one another's eyes, and experience love and connection from a real, raw, spiritual place. these two usually find each other when one or both of them are experiencing some form of an "awakening", and need clarity and stability in their lives.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is a couple that typically has to work towards engaging in clear-cut communication with one another. this is a relationship that not only inspires them to navigate love from a grounded, truthful place, but it teaches them to also navigate their day to day lives with the exact same type of energy. when evolved, this aspect can influence a very creative, harmonious, and compassionate nature between two lovers.
mercury opposite saturn in the composite chart can manifest as a mental disconnect, and an inability to see eye to eye with one another
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ with this aspect, it may be a common occurrence for this couple to bump heads with one another in terms of their ideals, especially regarding stability and structure. they may struggle with feeling like they can't fully express themselves within this connection without either partner growing frustrated or being restrictive.
โ.*:๏ฝฅโฝ this is a couple that typically has to learn how to compromise with one another. they have to work towards being able to hear one another out without feeling as though they need to have the utmost authority in the relationship. ultimately, they have a lot that they can learn from each other, and with the evolved energy of this aspect, they can work together to build a dynamic within their communication style that equally supports and benefits both of them.
๐ The reason the Cancer sign itself has an Aries Midheaven is because women and femininity are often hated, abused, and overly sexualized by society.
โช This is also why the Sagittarius sign itself has a Scorpio 12th house. Religions are heavily based on fear of the unknown, taboos, and darkness, so they strive to appear pure and righteous with their Virgo Midheaven. However, behind closed doors, they can be messy, lost, and delusional with their Pisces IC. They often condemn taboo or occult topics, yet secretly draw inspiration from or even use them in their own practices.
(Example: Pagan symbols, like the sun emblem, were sometimes adapted to represent Christian figures, associating a pagan sun god with Jesus as the true source of light.)
๐ข Not all 8th house or 12th house synastry is abusive. Difficult aspects donโt automatically mean abuse. Any synastry house can carry abusive dynamics, for example, 3rd house synastry may involve verbal abuse, 4th house synastry can be emotionally abusive, and 5th house synastry may involve infidelity.
๐ค For 12th house synastry to work, both individuals need to develop cognitive empathy, the ability to understand another person's perspective, thoughts, and feelings without necessarily experiencing those emotions yourself. Entering this dynamic can blur logic, leading to projections and delusions. Clarity, healthy communication, and direct honesty are essential to avoid mixed signals and misunderstandings.
Being in a 12th house synastry means both individuals are operating on different frequencies. You may not fully understand each other from an emotional standpoint because you come from completely different life circumstances (for example, one person may be from a privileged background while the other comes from a less advantaged one). This creates an inherent disconnect in how each person navigates the world.
๐ง The Virgo sign itself carries a distorted definition of purity and innocence, as it is shaped by religious control (Sagittarius 4th house) and patriarchy (Leo 12th house). It represents the roots of purity culture (Aries 8th house), which forbids taboo and sexuality under the guise of moral righteousness.
๐ฃ Moon 11h squaring its Mercury 2h = I want to be emotionally real and accepted by my people, even if itโs messy. But I should be composed, be clear, and speak only whatโs useful or valuable.
๐ฆ Having 12th house placements feels like that moment when youโre tempted to steal something in a store, but then you remember there are CCTVs watching you. These natives are consciously or subconsciously aware of karma and the unseen consequences of their actions. And if they do cross a line, the energy tends to rebound quickly, it always comes back to them.
๐ฑ People with a Leo 12th house are thriving during Pluto in Aquarius (the era marking the fall of celebrity culture).
๐ When a sign in your 12th house opposes transiting Pluto, that hidden or suppressed part of yourself finally becomes validated or seen.
๐งธ Moon conjunct Pluto in the 5th house = someone who canโt fully move on from their childhood. They may experience age regression or cope by rewatching their favorite childhood shows and listening to nostalgic songs. They miss the time when life felt innocent and safe but struggle deeply when bad memories resurface. These individuals often crave a mother figure due to unresolved maternal wounds and may fantasize about being cared for or nurtured, something they longed for but never truly received in childhood.
๐ธMars conjunct Ascendant or Mars in 1st house can be one of those relationships where you aren't too sure if someone likes you genuinely or just for your looks.
๐ธVenus in 5th house has an easy going atmosphere helped by a shared sense of humor and playfulness regardless of other aspects in synastry.
๐ธIt can be very difficult to end a relationship with someone with their Mars in your 8th house as they will persist to make sure the relationship continues.
๐ธHaving your natal Moon or Venus conjunct/opposite/square Pluto makes your relationships with people close to your age very intense for better or worse.
๐ธPeople with Venus in 12th house synastry tend to dream about each other a lot.
๐ธRelationships have a better chance of surviving if 4th house,5th house and 8th house synastry are all present.
๐ธPeople with Venus in 10th house synastry most likely met or connected through work or school and tend to bond over career related matters.
๐ธIf Moon conjunct Mars synastry has no strong aspects to aid the relationship, the Mars person may view the Moon person as merely someone to procreate with, this is especially true if Mars is a man and Moon is a woman.
๐ธVenus-Saturn strong aspects tend to be present in age-gap relationships.
๐ธStrong uranus aspects to personal plantets in synastry may create an element of uncertainty or instability to the relationship
hey love! what does a Plutonian chart look like? i'm not sure if I have one. how would that affect me?
Strong influence of Plutoโฆ
What a strong Plutonian influence of Pluto in the chart could look like:
Pluto in the 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th house
Pluto aspecting inner planets (Mercury, Venus and Mars)
Pluto strongly aspecting the moon and ascendant, especially tight orbs
TW: mentions of s*x and death!!
Being Pluto dominant or having a strong influence of Pluto means that transformations, ego deaths, feelings of death and rebirth will accompany you for a life time. From my experience, this will be especially harsh in the childhood, youth and maybe in your early adult years. As time passes and as you get older, you might develop self care habits and safety mechanisms to protect yourself and your inner peace. Practising self love, meditation and mindfulness could be important to these individuals, as they could underestimate their beauty and their outstanding personality.
Iโve also seen that most traumatic events happen in the childhood, youth or early adulthood. But thatโs just my observation.
Feelings of being deeply misunderstood rise while you are young and this feeling might follow you for years. Constantly searching for someone to understand your complex mind and depth of emotions. These people could benefit from searching for a valve to turn pain, bad experiences and any form of built up emotion into art. Be it writing, drawing, making musicโฆ
A reoccurring theme for Plutonians is sexuality. There may be blockages in regards of the own sexuality or experiencing it, but once they overcome this, they literally start to bloom in that area. This could turn into being hungry for power in general (or simply being turned on by overpowering the partner) or in being lascivious. They can be pretty much extreme and freaky in bed, actually. Being intimate never gets boring with them.
I know, this is what you read everywhere, but plutonic people are deeply magnetic and will catch your eye with their intense aura. Even if they are not seen as traditionally beautiful, these natives exude attractiveness and charisma. You just canโt ignore them and they will even stand out in a crowd. BUT! A lot of them donโt have the sex appeal like (for example) Megan Fox has. A lot of them have such an innocence to their appearance, but if you take a closer look youโll see that theyโre like fallen angels.
From my experience, plutonic people will have a deep connection to spirituality or the occult and a profound interest in psychology (for good and bad). They usually get into these things after really hard times in their life. They will attract jealousy and hate like flies, unfortunately and this could take a toll in their self esteem. Even strangers tend to be very competitive and mean to them in some way, because most people simply feel challenged by their presence.
Dear plutonic people,
you ALL are wonderful and you deserve so much more. I feel for every single one of you and I hope you will find true happiness and self acceptance. Youโve been through so much and you deserve the world for all that. Iโm sending you all the love you might need right now or later! ๐ฉถ
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Disclaimer: These challenging placements do not mean you are destined to have a difficult life forever. Everyone has beneficial and challenging placements in their birth chart.
Libra Sun & Aquarius Sun
The Sun is meant to be expressed and to shine brightly through oneโs own presence. Libra Suns are a sign that mirror others and view themselves through the lens of others (friends, lovers, etc). This creates an inner struggle of identity and authenticity for them. Aquarius is similar to Libra, but their focus is on the collective and society itself. Aquarians may struggle in finding their identity outside of society, seeking attention and admiration in the wrong places of life.
Virgo Moon, Scorpio Moon, & Capricorn Moon
Scorpio Moons find it difficult to navigate through their intense emotions, often prone to outbursts and anger. They feel so deeply but are incredibly private about it. Virgo Moons can be emotionally repressed which leads to them being cold and distant. They find faults in themselves and others. Capricorn Moons strive to control their own emotions, and find it hard to trust others. They can also be emotionally stunted at worst.
Leo Risings and Libra Risings
Leo and Libra Risings are known to be incredibly beautiful people with mass appeal. Unfortunately, I have observed that they face such constant hardship in their lives. The houses in a Libra Risingโs birth chart are on opposite ends, which leads to consistent pain and growth in every area of life. Libra Risings struggle with financial upheaval and a sense of self. Leo Risings often grow up in chaotic households and struggles with feeling misunderstood by others. They never feel appreciated for who they are, and what they do.
8th House and 12th House Placements
Traditionally ruled by Scorpio, the 8th House is associated with death, taxes, rebirth, karma, and transformation. It can be a very dark and intense house. People with 8th house placements experience transformations in their lives back to back. They can carry this deep, intense presence with them whenever they go.
The 12th house is traditionally ruled by Pisces. Secrets, hidden enemies, intuition, isolation, and spirituality are prominent themes for the 12th House. People with 12th house placements may struggle with forming close relationships (Venus), self-esteem issues (Sun), or dealing with anger in a healthy way (Mars).
Hard Moon-Pluto Aspects (Square, Conjunct, etc.)
Any hard Moon-Pluto aspect provides a person with life challenges centered around emotions, transformation, and change. Moon Square Pluto shows how a person may have difficulties with letting go and releasing repressed emotions. Moon Conjunct Pluto can be very sensitive and feel emotionally unsafe most of the time.
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tw for various mentions of abuse and death as well as mental problems, sh and su!cide, also needles (dont ask)
- may have experienced a lot of death in thr family or in the close neighborhood
- feel more connected to your dead relatives than your alive ones
- there mightve been a death in your family before you were born
- feeling peacful in graveyards
- may have fantasized about death/su!cide, might percieve death as something that brings peace (hence the fantasies, because really all you ever wanted was peace)
- wanting peace but knowing you cannot have it because of your nature; feeling like theres just something in your blood in your soul that is uncontrollable and overwhelming
- your household was always a house , never a home
- being raised by very old people, enjoying the presence of much older wiser people (like, literal elders not hot teachers ๐)
- enduring literal psychological warfare in your home (usual your mother waged war on you as soon as you were old enough to form a coherent critical thought)
- "I hate you, dont leave me" (might be the attitude of your mother towards you, or yours towards others you love)
- Your mother always knew when you were lying or hiding something. Especially if she had a scorpio moon or moon/pluto aspects herself. You grew up extremely fearful of her.
- moon pluto culture is hearing your mother talk lovingly about her own fucked up mother, she never accepted the severity of her own abuse, until of course she needs to use it in an argument against you "Im a great mother, my mother was so much worse"(basically Im good because I abuse you differently than I was abused ๐ same shit different package)
- not liking motherly women or women who try to be mother figures to you, feeling uncomofortable around them; youre uncomfortable with how much you crave motherly love and people who can provide you that become threats because of the power they could have over you if you opened up
- being betrayed by the women in your life, especially those who were much older and supposed to take care of you (teachers, tutors, family members, therapists, babysitters..)
- toxic female friends ๐๐ซ bonus : really close but toxic female friendships in youth that feel like death when you end them even though you know it was necessary
- feeling pain so deeply you think you will drop dead or have a heart attack. (When I was little and depressed I wrote in a diary of mine "My body will kill me before I get to")
more on this : when you start crying because of immense emotional pain and suddenly your heart is burning and beating too fast and youre getting light headed and throwing up , and suddenly youre not crying because of the pain, youre crying because youre afraid youre about to have a heart attack and die
- fearing that your mother will k word herself or you if you try to leave her (harsh aspects mostly)
- learning what emotional violence is very early, how to wield it and defend against it
- turning your emotions off completely for a while and then having a nervous breakdown when it all rushes back
- reading up on psychology, psychiatry and works of psychotherapists so you can heal and never become your mother
- wanting to put a bullet in your head when you notice yourself thinking or behaving like your mother
- going home after you spent time somewhere where you felt good and safe is extremely dreadful
- your mother doesnt see you as a human being (harsh aspects especially), and may take you a while to figure this out
- extremely controlling behavior from your mother or other caretakers (for example my mother threatened to send people to stalk me when I moved to a diff city, to 'make sure Im not doing something bad')
- deeply grieving the loss of your childhood and your inner child
- almost choking while crying or passing out
- feeling like youre a horrible person and dont deserve your family [because youre in deep denial and are seeing the flaws of your family as your own and denying your own trauma]
- learning about sex early on, perhaps early sexual obsession but not like promiscuity more like craving for deep intimacy (also you were probably deeply ashamed of it)
- not telling your family (esp mother) anything because they will ruin it for you
- being accused of being a psychopath, uncaring, selfish for "not loving your family enough"
- not knowing how to feel about the members of your family that played a more passive role in your life because they didnt do anything wrong but they didnt do anything right either; surely they knew , why didnt they stop it? why didnt they save you? (Im talking about adults obviously)
- your parents mightve been much older when you were born, you might have siblings much older than you
- doing anything to avoid your intense emotions and then when you break down and feel everything you realize how freeing it is and how comfortable you actually are with the intensity
- gutteral reactions to songs you deeply relate to (I hear 10 seconds of 'Slipping through my fingers' and I am dead on the floor)
- being afraid of your mother or just of your family in general
- you could probably kill someone with your bare hands if you were angry and hurt enough
- scary as fuck when you actually show your anger
- if you cry in the midst of a fight (verbal or physical) ... someone tell that person to make peace w God . cause thats you crying because of what youre about to do, because thats you loosing the last crumb of humanity you had for them and that can only end one way.
- you would probably kill for your loved ones
- your friends feel like you would help them hide a body (and you probably would)
- recognizing people by footsteps and breathing patterns (especially family members)
- deep deep eyes, people can see war and death them, and they feel like you see their pain too (because you do)
- reading people easily
- enjoying? cruelty (to yourself or others), like getting impulses to do something that would cause you or someone else that ugly feeling of facing cruelty
- finding comfort in the cold and the dark
- insane nightmares since youth, growing to be used to them
- its very hard to shock you
- you know when someones lying
- you might dread certain types of pain yet feel pleasure from them (personally I hate having my blood taken for a test but then I end up immensely enjoying the feeling of a needle pricking my skin and going deep into my vein)
- feeling the need to "kill" some your habits; most likely to drop things cold turkey and be extremely strict in breaking bad habits
- might enjoy really dark, emotionally and morally complex media
- immediately recognizing other moon pluto people and trauma bonding
- extremely good pain endurance. not necessarily tolerance , but endurance. you feel the pain and do it anyway.
- might not react to physical pain at all from a young age
- fantasies about drowning or slipping away peacfully
- either loving deep waters or hating them
- randomly breaking down in the middle of the day because of some pain you buried 5 years ago
- might self harm a lot because of your complex relationship w pain, it genuinely helps sometimes
- home feels like literal prison
- seeing the value in suffering, you might reject the idea that suffering is bad and should be avoided and prevented at all costs
- you might become religious as you mature (but usually in your own way, not necessarily according to tradition)
- forced to eat or denied food in your home, this mightve fucked up your relationship with food
And lastly, I need you to engrave this in yourself :
Iโve found progressed composite charts to be the best way to predict events in relationships. Whether it be your first meeting, first date, engagement, breakup, or any other relevant event in two peopleโs dynamics the progressed composite always has accurately predicted this for me. Unfortunately not many astrologers study this so itโs hard to find information about what various aspects can represent in a progressed composite. These are just my personal observations of how some of these aspects have played out for me.
Because progressed composite planets move slowly (inner planets one degree a year, and the moon one degree a month), aspects will ONLY SHOW UP AT AN EXACT 0ยฐ ORB. The 1ยฐ after can be a โclean upโ of sorts for whatever happened at the exact aspect.
The most important place to look in progressed composites is the moon since it moves quicker than any other placement in the chart. In my experience, most events have happened quickly after the aspect to the moon hits 0ยฐ
All of the following aspects include the moon since it is the best to predict relationship timing
Aspects:
โช moon sextile Eros can happen the first time two people see each other in a sexual way and represents a fascination or attraction to one another.
โช For already existing relationships moon sextile/trine Eros can be a time where sexual attraction is heightened. The sextile is typically more active and noticeable while the trine is a more natural energy that more subtlety flows in the background of the relationship
Personal experience: I had Eros sextile moon with a guy when we first saw each other in person and he was first attracted to me but we didnโt talk, only a first interest not necessarily a first meeting
โช Moon conjunct Pluto can show up at a time where you are deciding whether to stay in or walk away from a relationship. This could also represent other forms of transformation in relationships. In my experience Iโve had this aspect when Iโve decided to leave a dynamic or when Iโve finally gotten over someone. I imagine this could also be present when there is a proposal, moving in together, or other factor that transforms and changes how you and your partner interact
โช Moon square/semi-square Neptune can show up as one (or both) of you wanting to be a part of the others life but not being able to due to a separation
โช Moon opposite Venus can signify a time where youโre generally not getting along with someone or thereโs factors leading to an annoyance with one another/lack of harmony in your dynamic
โช Moon sextile Venus can signify the opposite representing significant bonding and a feeling of harmony in the dynamic
Personal experience: when I had moon sextile Venus with a friend we had a lot more communication and hung out for hours talking about our shared values and life goals, it definitely bonded us more as friends. When I had this with an old fling he randomly broke no contact and made peace after years of not talking
โช Moon sextile Uranus can show an unexpected beginning or end to an aspect of your relationship thatโs generally positive and welcomed on both sides
โช Moon inconjunct Uranus can similarly show an unexpected change in dynamic but this one is typically met with more tension
