#moon square pluto

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🔴 Moon square Jupiter in Synastry chart: I just didn’t enjoy that one as much. Especially if you have positive Moon Jupiter aspect in your individual Natal chart (sextile, trine), you are likely to not like this as much. Positive is that you can be much more realistic than usual and you have a very realistic grasp on who the person is. You don’t idealize them, put them on the pedestal. Negatives: there are a few actually, you probably live at a distance from each other or even whenever this person is in your home, you could feel like they are at times in a different place mentally, only physically present with you, but the mind is somewhere else. Likely not hanging out as much in each other’s home, usually out in the city exploring new places. A LOT of rationalizing of feelings happening. There is present the feeling of “false hope”. If this is a crush, person can do something really sweet, but in your mind you’re like “can’t have up hopes up”, because usually it’s just a kind gesture or they are being nice and friendly. You feel like exaggerating emotions or being overly dramatic is something that isn’t “allowed” or well accepted in this connection. Hence again rationalising emotions, feelings and gut reactions is likely to happen. Jupiter person feels like how Moon person expresses their feelings is just not one of the ideal traits they are searching for in the long run. This can also happen that Jupiter person might not want to move in with the Moon person. Jupiter person wanting to keep their own place or living on their own.

🔴 Mars sextile Mercury in Synastry chart: Mars person is usually more communicative. Mars person can also start majority of conflicts with Mercury person. Mars person might not like Mercury’s friends, on a few, if it’s positive aspects (sextile, trine). Mars person feels like Mercury person doesn’t communicate enough and not regularly enough with them. Mars person feels like they need to rationalize behaviour or reactions, which results in “walking on eggshells” with the Mercury person. Usually both like to resolve disagreement on the spot, right away and usually very quick resolution.

🔴 Mars trine Moon in Synastry chart: Mars person encourages Moon person to express their emotions more. Moon can feel peaceful when Mars person is arguing. Moon person react emotionally when Mars person is angry or voices disagreement. Likely working out together or just very active when visiting each other’s home. Both Mars and Moon person are very encouraging of each other to be expressive of needs and wishes directly and openly. Be mindful of unexpected pregnancies, you two are likely more fertile together than with other people!

🔴 Mercury in the 8th house in the Composite chart: Be mindful of the power of words in this connection. Because sometimes you may hurt each other with words so deeply that the wounds won’t heal. Positives: you encourage each other a lot of speak up your mind and the other person always wants to know what the other is thinking. Negatives: there can be outbreaks of anger, crying, accusations or an emotional breakdown at some point. But the thing is that this can be a positive as well, because you will feel like it’s “cleansing”, that you are not only letting go the argument with your person, but also previous past hurts, because you realize that those past feelings that you had as a past version of yourself don’t resonate with you anymore and that they are not relatable to you anymore. So like I said strong cleansing energy with this one, but it is on both ends happening, not just one person. Basically how the other person thinks helps to shape a newer, better version of yourself, you mature a lot. Try not to be too serious all the time, but also not to push their limits. More humour, joy is needed in conversations.

🔴 Venus in the 8th house in the Composite chart: The bond you have with this person really touches you on the inside. If it’s romantic, feelings for this person can scare you a little bit, because it can catch you off guard, when you are the least looking for a romantic connection or when you gave up. But when you cool off a little bit and become yourself again, you are likely to find this connection very positive and uplifting. Beware of placing too high of expectations on your person. If the connection is too intense at certain moments, try to keep your individuality and ground yourself, the person won’t go anywhere. You “melt” into each other, if you aren’t afraid to give up control, you experience what others often miss out.

🔴 Sun in the 8th house in Composite chart: Likely to earn a lot of money together. Probably feel like it was a fated even that you got to know each other. While in this connection you are likely to discover interest in your own life that you will grow very passionate about. Likely to experience career change, a move or start learning about a new topic while in this connection. Your old parts of personality that don’t serve you anymore will be replaced with new ones. Again, a better version of yourself.

🔴 Moon in the 7th house in the Composite chart: Trust here is usually very easy, unless the Moon is aspected by malefic planets. It’a very important that both feel emotionally content, because any divergence from that, the other person starts feeling really bad about themselves too. But if one person is jovial, happy and bright, the other person is likely to mirror back and feel that just as well.

🔴 Venus square Saturn in Synastry chart: Saturn person is willing to take on all responsibility for Venus person, but Saturn person demands and expects respect for it. Venus person likes that they can rely on Saturn person, Venus person can still be dissatisfied with the connection. Saturn person has hard time letting go and Venus person has a hard time relaxing Saturn person. Venus person can benefit from this (if they allow Saturn person to help them relax), since they can become for confident. What you really want is honest affection, but you just end up getting security.

🔴 Venus square Uranus in Synastry chart: Feelings can quickly develop, but you will still have doubts, if the connection is manageable to be long-term or you will doubt whether you will be in each other’s life for years, even if just friends. There is this feeling present that everything can quickly change and end quickly as well. Uranus person can’t really appreciate affection Venus person gives. But instead rather they appreciating affection, they feel trapped in the connection, restricted and like they need even more freedom. Uranus person can also be in a very non-commital era of their life. When Uranus person shows themselves as they are, that is freedom loving, Venus person feels hurt, under-appreciated, but also rejected or ignored. Venus person dislikes unpredictability of Uranus person, instead Venus person needs more warmth and sensitivity.

🔴 Sun in the 6th house in the Composite chart: Both could feel like you didn’t enter the connection voluntarily or wholeheartedly. Could end up feeling used, restricted in one way or another. You could be staying together for practical reasons. Might even stay together out of feeling obligated or because leaving your person could end up making you feel guilty.

🔴 Moon in the 3rd house in the Composite chart: Communication will always be determined by your feelings for each other. You both agree on how to do things. Make sure not to take advantage of your person’s weaknesses in arguments. Both feel immediately hurt if a misunderstanding happens.

🔴 Pluto square Mars in Synastry chart: Both are afraid that you will miss out on something, if you don’t commit to this connection and get involved with each other, either platonically or romantically. Pluto person is very set and focused on their own ambitions, long-term goals and can see Mars person as not as driven, ambitious as they are. Mars person can come across as a bit primitive to the Pluto person. Both are stubborn to make their goals a reality, even when those goals are clashing. Sex is like glue here, because it’s the only thing you both enjoy and agree on. Both need to learn compromise. It’s like Mars person wants to “conquer” Pluto person, but Pluto person can’t be conquered or doesn’t want to be conquered.

🔴 Mars sextile Mars in Synastry chart: There isn’t any competition between you two. Both take great initiative, so this is better for a long-term connection.

🔴 Venus opposition Mars in Synastry chart: If this is romantic, probably both don’t like traditional gender roles and you rebel against that. Venus person can be more vulnerable, feminine than Mars person. Especially, if Venus person is a man and Mars person a woman, Venus person cannot do the same things as they did with previous women. Mars person wants less vulnerable, sensitive partner, but instead desires a partner who takes initiative and works a lot. Venus person want vulnerability and harmony, Mars person wants strength and passion. Venus person also can’t appreciate Mars person’s strength and independence.

🔴 Sun in the 5th house in the Composite chart: Both accept each other as you are and give a great deal of independence and freedom to each other. You have a life outside of this connection and you don’t put pressure onto each other. But too much freedom can quickly turn into lack of interest in this connection.

🔴 Moon in the 4th house in the Composite chart: You are likely to be overprotective of this connection. And if someone say something about your connection you won’t take it lightly. You want to be in your own bubble and want to avoid being irritated by the outside world.

🔴 Moon in the 6th house in the Composite chart: You could feel like there is some sort of emotional neglect happening in this connection. One person can also think that they are giving more than the other. This is actually one placement that thrives when there is a bit of friction, because you will understand each other better after.

🔴 Moon opposite Mars in Composite chart: A lot of letting your bad mood out on each other out of frustration or being dissatisfied with yourself. You may not always be able to give comfort to each other. You may also not share your life with your person, because you think your own interests would suffer.

🔴 Moon square Pluto in Composite chart: You will need to learn how to respect your partner’s feelings. And to not jump to conclusions too quickly and learn how to see an issue from an emotional distance. Avoid needing to know every single secret of your person. Or making up expectations from your own feeling of insecurity that no one can fulfil.

🔴 Moon in the 5th house in the Composite chart: Both can be too moody, changeable and inconsistent to overcome challenges together. Also can be easily offended because of an exaggerated pride in this connection. You could have troubles committing to this person, because you might have a feeling that you might be missing something.

🔴 Sun in the 9th house in Composite chart: You may want to outshine each other with your achievements. You may struggle with closeness or you just don’t want to admit your weaknesses. You also get a lot of opportunities to create a future together.

⊹ ຯ ׁ side note : this post is based on my opinion and past synastry placements i’ve had with people. these aspects were also in the synastry charts of people i know irl. obviously, there are other placements out there that might counterbalance the effects of these. enjoy ♡.

moon square pluto : this one is not for the weak. one of the worst aspects you can have with someone. it obviously creates a very passionate relationship but this one is just too much, especially for the moon person. both are permanently transformed after meeting each other (especially the moon person!). i also noticed that the relationship almost never lasts. the pluto person can be too harsh on the moon person and they may be pissed because of the moon's emotionally demanding nature. toxicity, possessiveness, manipulation and/ or viol*nce might occur. the pluto person has an undeniable influence over the emotions of the moon person. a lot of power struggles here.

venus square/opposite uranus : creates an electric duo. they can start off as friends, then the relationship can evolve into love. but sadly, in a romantic way, this aspect creates a troubled relationship. the venus person is the more expressive of the two. the uranus person will be very loving and demonstrative one day but the next day it will be the complete opposite, which will confuse and sadden the venus person a lot. this bond will most likely not last because of that. one of them may cut ties suddenly. they should only stay friends in my opinion.

moon conjunct mars : the mars person is extremely s*xually attracted to the moon person and makes it clear to them quickly, even if they don't know each other well. at first, the moon person may be flattered and also attracted to the other in a more 'romantical' way but in the end, the moon person will most likely be disappointed and think that the mars person only wants them for their body, and it's a bit true.. s*xual attraction is there but the romantic feelings are clearly not mutual. the moon person can also easily get pregnant with the mars person so be careful if it's not in your plans!

venus 1st house overlay : oh i REALLY hate this one. on paper, this placement seems good, pleasant. and it is! but it can't sustain a relationship if there are no other good placements to support it. the venus person almost only like the 1st house person for their looks, nothing else. this might be flattering at first but eventually, the relationship fizzles out. at some point, the 1st house can feel used for their appearance. the venus person might idealize and put them on a pedestal, then detach themselves quickly. because it's only physical attraction. it’s impossible to have a mental or emotional connection with this placement alone. it’s extremely superficial and ultimately disappointing.

ascendant square ascendant : no surprise, they are too different, they see life in almost opposite ways so arguments and misunderstandings are frequent. they probably didn't even like each other at first. as a virgo rising myself, i can't stand some of gemini/sag risings behavior lol. they can be enemies.

mars square saturn : the saturn person takes on the mature role and tend to find the mars person too childish and impulsive in their actions. the saturn person is easily irritated by the mars person even if they didn't do anything 'wrong, they can be condescending to the mars native. so you can imagine that conflicts often happen and neither of them can put their ego aside to apologize.. they can go a long time without talking to each other because of this. usually, the mars person finds the other hella boring. the mars person can also feel like the saturn person is restricting their individual expression.

moon square/opposite mercury : the moon person can't express their feelings without getting judged by the mercury person. on the other hand, the mercury person may find them way too sensitive and feel like they can't say anything without sounding hurtful/coming across as the "bad guy".

mercury square saturn : communication is almost nonexistent and when it does happen, the two can't understand what the other is trying to say. sadly, disagreements and misunderstandings are part of their daily routine. in addition to this, the mercury person is likely to give the silent treatment to the saturn person. may also think that the other isn't funny. they have difficulty getting along, they generally don't share the same opinions, they debate everything. or maybe they just have nothing to talk about. it creates an exhausting or boring relationship, it depends.

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🌸Mars conjunct Ascendant or Mars in 1st house can be one of those relationships where you aren't too sure if someone likes you genuinely or just for your looks.

🌸Venus in 5th house has an easy going atmosphere helped by a shared sense of humor and playfulness regardless of other aspects in synastry.

🌸It can be very difficult to end a relationship with someone with their Mars in your 8th house as they will persist to make sure the relationship continues.

🌸Having your natal Moon or Venus conjunct/opposite/square Pluto makes your relationships with people close to your age very intense for better or worse.

🌸People with Venus in 12th house synastry tend to dream about each other a lot.

🌸Relationships have a better chance of surviving if 4th house,5th house and 8th house synastry are all present.

🌸People with Venus in 10th house synastry most likely met or connected through work or school and tend to bond over career related matters.

🌸If Moon conjunct Mars synastry has no strong aspects to aid the relationship, the Mars person may view the Moon person as merely someone to procreate with, this is especially true if Mars is a man and Moon is a woman.

🌸Venus-Saturn strong aspects tend to be present in age-gap relationships.

Undeveloped Leo Suns act like spoiled children who want anyone's attentions on their dramas, even tho it usually come to ordinary glitches. Emotionally mature Leo Suns can instead spontaneously be energic spiritual guides. They have this kind of warm temper that lightly differs from Sagittarius energies, especially in terms of devoted king-like altruism.

Aquarius energies, on the contrary, are based on an "ideal" aura: they fall for the "idea" of being altruistic. Or for the "idea" they get from people they like. It is the pontentiality they have to be like the "idea" they strongly believe in. If you meet their idealistic view, you're put on an ethereal pedestal and make you an ideal fellow with whom more or less consciously spread the vision they strongly stand for.

Scorpio Venuses look for deep undisturbed intimacy that lores such a "freedom" of exploration, which could involve taboo or just a sense of possess nobody else can access in. Chastity is possible as a way to defend emotions from what is personally perceived as superficial or not 100%24/7fulltime engaged.

Moon Square Pluto culture: dismantling your thought process for the pleasure of stripping away your emotions. That's because their own ones weren't really considered during childhood and youth. Femininity is a painful experience which mostly implodes. Yet it is deeply transformative. Emotions can transform. Emotions can ruin. If undeveloped, that could lead to mysoginy and bossy demeanours.

Taurus Suns, if immature, are likely to search for strong reactions from people they meet. Like asserting shocking statements just for the satisfaction of getting attention. And then trying to make things lighter just not to be accused of being cruel or unethical. Do they really think what they say? Not really.

… About that, too: Taurus placements have quite strong guts. Much more than Virgo and Capricorn ones. They don't mind getting dirty or guilty to reach their goals. Disturbing tastes (or just instant crazes) can be possible. They simply handle them well, if they're somehow useful. Or rewarding.

Lilith in the 7th House is about projecting personal flaws onto others: people are their own shadows. Relationships become catalyzer of inner tensions, where the one fights against many shades of him/herself. Rawness comes from partnerships.

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Accuracy is influenced by the ENTIRE chart

Sun trine Saturn

This is usually good for a friendship or business partnership. There is longevity and often a restriction or boundary in the connection. One person may have some status or power over the other. This can indicate one person - likely Sun - can’t be their true self. They want to present as their best self.

This can be for various reasons - ex: one wants to impress the other or one is insecure around the other. If positive, you are motivated to be your best self/improve.

Moon conjunct Jupiter

You can feel supported and protected by this connection. You can be generous in proving one another patience, support + understanding. 

The negative side is this can be enabling if you allow it. This can be a connection that encourages overindulgence + poor habits for short term pleasure. 

Moon square Pluto

You can encounter control issues if you get too close. There can be jealously. One may require more than the other is willing to give. Example: Moon desires more emotional vulnerability, Pluto doesn’t want to let their guard down. One can desire a romantic relationship, the other wants a friendship or something casual. Your emotional needs are unlikely to align. One can feel the other is obsessive or controlling to varying extents too.

Moon conjunct South Node

This is a reoccurring aspect I’ve seen in on & off relationships - platonic and romantic. You can take breaks from one another but then find your way back. This can be due to one person - likely Moon - feeling emotionally drained or neglected. 

This connection often suggests a lot of sacrifice + compromise is needed to be maintained. If positively placed, you can feel a sense of ease around one another. You are able to support one another. You can create a no judgement zone for one another.

Venus square Venus

This can indicate some type of difference in desires, need or self. I often see this reoccur in synastry of people who are from different upbringings or cultures. 

The differences can create intrigue and passion. But the chemistry may not be enough to maintain a long-term connection. You have to meet each other half way to fulfill one another emotionally. This is another synastry indicator of needing to learn & compromise. 

Venus trine Jupiter

There is a good flow and loving energy. You can be supportive of one another. You can have a lot of fun together. Together, you can let loose. You may have similiar tastes or hobbies.

This can be a “go with the flow” type connection. Potential for a fling. And in some cases, this is someone - platonic or romantic - that you see on occasion. This aspect does not indicator longevity though. There may be other synastry in the chart that does tho. IRL EXAMPLE: Jupiter & Venus are long-distance friends. When Jupiter is in Venus’s city, they go out & make a lot of fun memories drinking + dancing. But they don’t stay in consistent contact throughout the year - neither feels the need or desire.

Mars square Venus

This can create a hate-love relationship. You can frustrate one another but this can lead to passion and intrigue. There are likely differences in personality that create tension. Yet, the magnetic energy is still present.

Potential negative scenario - this is someone you know is bad for you in the long-run but you can’t resist.

Potential positive scenario - this is someone you bicker with a lot but its a form of affectionate teasing/roasting.

Venus conjunct Neptune

This can feel like a deeply romantic connection. You can feel pulled to the other. You can intuitively understand the other. The connection can feel like fate or dream. You have to be cautious of building up an ideal view of the other. You can be disappointed when the fog clears. This can often be synastry you have with a celebrity crush.

If negative, I have seen this in irl unreciprocated connections. One person - likely Venus - is flattered by Neptune’s admiration, however Venus may not match Neptune’s feelings. 

Pluto trine Saturn

This can be a very powerful and transformative connection. Pluto can bring intensity and disruption into Saturn’s life. You can directly or indirectly set off a chain off events in one another’s life.

Mars trine Jupiter

You can inspire one another. You can be competitive with one another. There can be a playfulness to the connection. It can indicate a brother-sister type dynamic - unless other synastry contradicts. 

If negative, there can be an underlying insecurity of feeling you are not at the same level as the other person. 

Jupiter trine Saturn

This can provide good support and stability to the connection. This would be good for a working relationship, you can easily work toward mutual goals + support one another in personal goals.

Saturn square Moon

This can create a rigid and cold energy. One may be unable to feel fully supported. One may feel the other is uncaring. Example: Virgo Moon square Gemini Saturn - You may be judgemental of each other’s lifestyles. You can constantly be able to find something to nitpick in the other. It may not be intended to hurt each other but one can begin to feel berated by the criticism. 

Neptune sextile Mars

Neptune can encourage Mars to achieve their goals. Mars can inspire Neptune to create + go after their goals. You can support + push one another to success.

South Node conjunct Pluto

Aspecting one another’s south node can indicate a past life connection. In this case, there can be an attraction to one another. This is not a superficial connection. In this lifetime, one person - likely Pluto - may end up in a position of power + status compared to SN person. 

Strong influence of Pluto…

What a strong Plutonian influence of Pluto in the chart could look like:

Pluto in the 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th house

Pluto aspecting inner planets (Mercury, Venus and Mars)

Pluto strongly aspecting the moon and ascendant, especially tight orbs

TW: mentions of s*x and death!!

Being Pluto dominant or having a strong influence of Pluto means that transformations, ego deaths, feelings of death and rebirth will accompany you for a life time. From my experience, this will be especially harsh in the childhood, youth and maybe in your early adult years. As time passes and as you get older, you might develop self care habits and safety mechanisms to protect yourself and your inner peace. Practising self love, meditation and mindfulness could be important to these individuals, as they could underestimate their beauty and their outstanding personality.

I’ve also seen that most traumatic events happen in the childhood, youth or early adulthood. But that’s just my observation.

Feelings of being deeply misunderstood rise while you are young and this feeling might follow you for years. Constantly searching for someone to understand your complex mind and depth of emotions. These people could benefit from searching for a valve to turn pain, bad experiences and any form of built up emotion into art. Be it writing, drawing, making music…

A reoccurring theme for Plutonians is sexuality. There may be blockages in regards of the own sexuality or experiencing it, but once they overcome this, they literally start to bloom in that area. This could turn into being hungry for power in general (or simply being turned on by overpowering the partner) or in being lascivious. They can be pretty much extreme and freaky in bed, actually. Being intimate never gets boring with them.

I know, this is what you read everywhere, but plutonic people are deeply magnetic and will catch your eye with their intense aura. Even if they are not seen as traditionally beautiful, these natives exude attractiveness and charisma. You just can’t ignore them and they will even stand out in a crowd. BUT! A lot of them don’t have the sex appeal like (for example) Megan Fox has. A lot of them have such an innocence to their appearance, but if you take a closer look you’ll see that they’re like fallen angels.

From my experience, plutonic people will have a deep connection to spirituality or the occult and a profound interest in psychology (for good and bad). They usually get into these things after really hard times in their life. They will attract jealousy and hate like flies, unfortunately and this could take a toll in their self esteem. Even strangers tend to be very competitive and mean to them in some way, because most people simply feel challenged by their presence.

Dear plutonic people,

🍄 These types of connections (romantic or platonic) can't be lighthearted; if there is genuine care within the dynamic intensity is very likely.

🍄 You have to consciously tell yourself to "not react" in moments when the other person fails to meet your expectations.

🍄 Emotions flood within you before your brain can logically calm you down.

🍄 Upset facial expressions/elongated eye glances/staring oftentimes can occur when the other person is again *failing to meet expectations.*

🍄 You always will compare how *they* make you feel vs how other people make you feel.

🍄 With other intense synastry aspects (such as more 4h/12h, nodal, or vertex synastry) or genuine care, reading each other just by their eyes alone is extremely easy. Just by a look, you will know how they feel.

🍄 In these connections you may know what not to do, you logically will know that the long period of stares, the obvious dissatisfaction you feel is not really justified usually because of outside factors, the lack of foundation within the connection, or just by the fact there's been little to no communication on either end, and yet that doesn't change or minimize the pain or feelings you have towards them from their actions.

🍄 Even if one person doesn't have natal scorpio/pluto/8th house placements/aspects in their chart, if they care about the other person; they will also have intense expectations on the other person.

🍄 In a platonic opposite-gender connection where one party has a romantic partner, you might understand that their actions towards you should lessen, especially in respect towards their partner but despite that rational understanding, the pull of your connection with them often overrides. Even if a part of you wants to respect their relationship logically and consciously, the underlying need for their attention or care persists.

🍄 In romantic connections (especially with moon/venus in another's 8th house) their eyes (the planet person) tells you it's okay to let that vulnerable side of you that you've shunned out, and without words; that emotional closeness that you've always wished to feel is suddenly fulfilled and with ease.

🍄 8th house connections undertake more Plutonian energy. If you are un-healed, then their actions or lack thereof can ignite parts of your character that you don't even recognize.

🍄 If you struggle with BPD/BPD tendencies then connections that take on more 8th house/pluto synastry will feel enticing and familiar, you are more likely to be drawn to the intense high and lows that this connection brings.

🍄 The deep rooted attraction with these connections mainly lies in the fact that you can allow yourself to feel emotionally close and vulnerable to someone else, the more you crave expressing emotional vulnerability the more attractive they become to you. (especially with objective/attraction synastry aspects)

🍄 Once their actions or once certain consist factors/situations creates a severe emotional blockage between you and them; the less desirable they will feel to you (especially so if you struggle with polarizing emotions)

🍄 It could be months since you've spoken to them, months since their eyes have met yours and if you still struggle with emotional acceptance/self love/self worth/self value; then a longing for them might ignite in any abrupt moment (whether it be from a photo of them, running into a mutual friend, from reading a cathartic quote that reminds you of them) a spark that once persisted for so long will make it's self known, and the part of you that you thought you said good-bye too, might reappear again.

🍄 8th house connections consist of cycles and loops, it's a dilemma of letting go to longing, it's understandable to sometimes have these waves of wanting even if you logically know you shouldn't.

🍄 Longing for one another on both ends (all that needs to be present is sincere care) can occur.

🍄 The longing you feel if they do leave your presence is the part of you that craves emotional closeness and serenity.

🍄 Logically you may know and have objective expectations of how they should treat you because of other factors and yet certain expectations or desires you have within will persist.

🍄 Even if nothing substantial or foundational ever occurred between the two of you, the reactions within you might reenact as if the two of you dated for months, years even.

🍄 There could be an emotional block between you two and the desire for them may diminish but If they look at you for one second the way they used too, the desire for them will arise as if the feeling never left.

🍄 The intensity of this connection swings between unspoken loyalty and complete avoidance—one extreme is driven by the fear of showing disinterest, and the other is driven by the fear of being a burden. If you’re not preoccupied with displaying your loyalty to them in a room full of people, you find yourself avoiding eye contact or minimizing conversation to maintain a facade of “normalcy”—a normalcy that doesn’t truly exist in this connection.

🍄 In romantic/attraction based relationships, and if you share 12th/South Node synastry/conjunctions with them; then you might feel this underlying tension to stay loyal to them.

Example:

For the more anxious type or with natal 12th/8th influence: At a party you focus on not giving another person too much attention because you feel they might get jealous or upset, even if there's nothing foundational. You only focus on their eyes in the room, and you make sure to showcase that your undivided attention is on them; even if they don't do or say anything to receive that loyal behavior. You can't help it.

For the more avoidant type or without natal 12th/8th influence (or no attraction even): You might overcompensate and try to talk/give attention to other people in front of them to showcase how "little" you care; so you may try to act like they are unimportant. This behavior could be out of insecurity, especially if this occurs when you feel jealous/or if they didn't exceed an expectation you had. It also could stem from the fact you feel fearful that you care and it feels uncomfortable that you dislike when they receive attention from others. (another note is if you're avoidant and when you get too much attention from someone else, you may realize how little you care about the 'distraction' you asked for and you'll start to wish the person in front of you was person you share 8th house synastry with)

The loops!! Cycles!! Staring! Longing! You want them then you don't, then you do, then you don't.

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Disclaimer: These challenging placements do not mean you are destined to have a difficult life forever. Everyone has beneficial and challenging placements in their birth chart.

Libra Sun & Aquarius Sun

The Sun is meant to be expressed and to shine brightly through one’s own presence. Libra Suns are a sign that mirror others and view themselves through the lens of others (friends, lovers, etc). This creates an inner struggle of identity and authenticity for them. Aquarius is similar to Libra, but their focus is on the collective and society itself. Aquarians may struggle in finding their identity outside of society, seeking attention and admiration in the wrong places of life.

Virgo Moon, Scorpio Moon, & Capricorn Moon

Scorpio Moons find it difficult to navigate through their intense emotions, often prone to outbursts and anger. They feel so deeply but are incredibly private about it. Virgo Moons can be emotionally repressed which leads to them being cold and distant. They find faults in themselves and others. Capricorn Moons strive to control their own emotions, and find it hard to trust others. They can also be emotionally stunted at worst.

Leo Risings and Libra Risings

Leo and Libra Risings are known to be incredibly beautiful people with mass appeal. Unfortunately, I have observed that they face such constant hardship in their lives. The houses in a Libra Rising’s birth chart are on opposite ends, which leads to consistent pain and growth in every area of life. Libra Risings struggle with financial upheaval and a sense of self. Leo Risings often grow up in chaotic households and struggles with feeling misunderstood by others. They never feel appreciated for who they are, and what they do.

8th House and 12th House Placements

Traditionally ruled by Scorpio, the 8th House is associated with death, taxes, rebirth, karma, and transformation. It can be a very dark and intense house. People with 8th house placements experience transformations in their lives back to back. They can carry this deep, intense presence with them whenever they go.

The 12th house is traditionally ruled by Pisces. Secrets, hidden enemies, intuition, isolation, and spirituality are prominent themes for the 12th House. People with 12th house placements may struggle with forming close relationships (Venus), self-esteem issues (Sun), or dealing with anger in a healthy way (Mars).

Hard Moon-Pluto Aspects (Square, Conjunct, etc.)

Any hard Moon-Pluto aspect provides a person with life challenges centered around emotions, transformation, and change. Moon Square Pluto shows how a person may have difficulties with letting go and releasing repressed emotions. Moon Conjunct Pluto can be very sensitive and feel emotionally unsafe most of the time.

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