#8h synastry

Jupiter in 8H Synastry

This is definitely a more tricky placement in my opinion. Though it could be very abundant for the couple that has this synastry, it's also quite a bit of a wild card that could open doors to other problems but I will explain that further in the post.

When Jupiter, the plan of expansion, growth, opportunity, wisdom, and belief systems meets the 8th house of intimacy, shared power dynamics, and transformation, you get a very deeply intimate relationship.

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Honestly? I think that this synastry is not for the faint of the heart, but it's also super overrated. Assuming this is in a romantic context I will stick to that lens, but I think that this observation could be applied to any relationship with this synastry.

When I see the moon dwelling in someone's eighth House, I see an immediate emotional gatekeeping. I say this because the Moon is all about your raw feelings, your emotional needs, your comforts, and even your softness. The 8th house is about vulnerability, control, trust, depth and even emotional exposure. While the Moon wants to express her raw emotions, she wants to do it safely and mostly on her terms. When someone's moon is activated in your 8th House, it unlocks a deeply territorial side in you that wants to hold on to and protect the connection with the moon person. This could be vice versa but it is typically the house person that wants to absorb the moon person and hold on to them tightly.

When the two of them meet, it is truly like feeling seen for the first time in your whole life. There's like a level of intimacy and safety that both people have never felt before once they first meet each other and this could be really addicting and intoxicating. The house person is going to feel alive with the moon person and the moon person is going to feel relief with the house person. I think the highest of highs of this synastry aspect is that both people sort of become each other's safe space, or even safety nets. There is something both beautiful, and extremely intense about the shared intimacy between both of these people. They can talk for hours about their traumas, secrets, confessions, and all of the topics that people try to avoid. They can do this together, with ease. The feeling of being seen in such a raw and unfiltered way can be addicted for both people and it can definitely bind them together. I've also noticed that these two tend to become addicted to the emotional highs and lows, which leads into more the toxic side of this connection.

I refer to this as a gatekeeping aspect because for both people, it feels like what they have between each other cannot be mimicked with anyone else, and they might even feel like others can be a threat to their relationship. This could lead to serious possessiveness over each other.

As it is common with the 8th house, this will be a very intense relationship very quickly. You will fall for each other violently. They might even bring a violent side out of you to be honest. This isn't by accident though, they are supposed to change you so that you can see the things within yourself that needs transforming. With passion comes drama so this couple can attract a lot of intense situations even if it doesn't necessarily involve them. But I'll discuss that later as I talk more about situations that can come up for you. Because this synastry aspect can be so intense and so passionate so quickly, there could be a lot of toxic behaviors on both sides. There could be a lot of jealousy on both sides as well, and the two of you can enjoy making each other jealous. There's a lot of emotional manipulation that could happen here as well, emotional blackmail, lying about feelings, lying in general etc. Crying when lying! I feel that if/when this connection burns out, there's a weird thing that happens between the both of them. They might sell each other out or rat on each other about their darkest secrets, and can have a very messy separation that involves other people, but they could still be very weirdly loyal to each other. I've seen situations where the two people involved absolutely destroy each other but would still defend each other's name if need be. The loyalty is not consistent and definitely depends on the emotional health or stability of the connection. There's too many highs and lows in my opinion to really allow both people to feel emotionally safe with sharing certain things with each other. This is why the two of them could lie to each other or could have no problem with lying about things.

Alternatively, the healthy manifestation of this synastry aspect can lead to extreme loyalty, financial gain, princess/Queen treatment lol. If these couples last long, it's usually for decades, but they usually have lots of stories of relationship trials and tribulations, stories of regaining trust and betrayal, etc. This is still the 8th house we are talking about so there will always be a level of deceit on some level even if it's small. There will always be something hidden about the other person in some way. But in long-term connections I see two people who are totally unshakable and bound together. This kind of reminds me of Morticia and Gomez Addams.

Some situations you can deal with.

Issues with the mother. I have seen this play out in different ways, either one or both of you enter the relationship already having mommy issues, or when you get together you might notice that one of your mother's becomes more of a hindrance or problem for your relationship. She might become overbearing, emotionally manipulative, possessive, jealous, act irrationally. I find that there's just baggage in general that comes with this synastry. You will also go through a lot of major changes together, and you might meet each other during a time in your life where you are facing major loss. They could also be a serious need for emotional independency because one or both of you could be very clingy with one another. You can also make a lot of money together especially when you first get together, but on the flip side, somebody could financially take advantage of you and manipulate your financial decisions using your emotions against you.

To me this is one of those aspects that is way too romanticized because there's a lot of difficult things that come with this synastry. There is emotional abuse, emotional manipulation, emotional blackmail, financial debt, etc. this aspect can make both people feel very insecure and have to work on their self-esteem because both people can really not only hurt each other, but fundamentally affect how they see themselves. I definitely don't feel like this is the case for everybody with these aspects are with any eighth house synastry, but it's also really important to have discernment and to be aware of the red flags if they present very early on which if there are any, they should show up quickly because of how intense the nature of this synastry is.

I recently wrote some songs about 8th and 12th house synastry, and if anyone is curious to listen, here’s my channel.

I have a few more with similar themes that I’ll be uploading soon! I got tired of not having any music to turn to when I’m feeling that specific kind of longing—so I decided to write and create my own. <3

Here is a preview of some of the work:

If the two parties are inconsistently romantically talking or there's emotional distance where one party has a significant other or there are obstacles with being together: “Maybe if I share this quote on my story, he’ll know this is how I feel towards him” “I don’t want to ruin whatever we have, but I can’t help but just want him.” “I feel like he cares about me but there's something holding him back from admitting it.” “When he looks at me, it feels like there’s so much he wants to say, but he just doesn’t.” “I always wonder if I cross his mind” “Was his story post meant for me?” “I wonder if I ever show up in his dreams.” “I know he was with someone else yesterday, but I feel like there's a part of him that wishes he was with me instead.” “He rarely initiates and all we share is eye contact but I can’t ignore the feeling that there’s still something between us.” “He keeps appearing in my dreams, even when I try not to think about him.” “I'll post this song on my story and maybe he'll look up the lyrics and realize this is how I feel towards him." “It feels like he cares; when he enters a room, we make eye contact and the energy between us shifts.” “It feels like he stays with her because choosing me would mean facing something he’s afraid of.

"He chooses everyone else over me but I can't help but feel like it's because he is scared." "I always find him looking at me, it feels like his eyes have something to tell me but he is too afraid to admit it." Me: “I want him to want me so bad he just grabs me, pulls me in, and kisses me.” Two weeks later… Him: “The moment I saw you, all I wanted was to grab you, pull you in, and kiss you." "Every time I listen to a song it reminds me of our unfinished story. This feeling of longing feels familiar and I don't know how to let that go." "I can't help but feel drawn to him even though there is nothing that I am holding onto." "But it feels like I can help him, save him or fix him, and I can't help but just want too." "He won't choose me, not like he chooses others, but I can't help but feel he's holding something back when his eyes looks into mine." "I had a dream where his hands were cupping my face, his eyes locked on mine, and he told me I make him feel more than anyone else ever has. Is that how he feels?" "Every time I see him I can't help but stare, it feels like there's so much unfinished feelings whenever he is next to me."

If the two parties are consistently talking or there's more of a consistent foundation between you two: " "Do he actually like me? I know he has told me out loud that he does, and we have talked for months now, but does he really?" "Why does it feel like he is unsure about how he feels toward me?" "I don't think he actually cares; he just says he does." "He is probably talking to other people." "I want to make sure he likes me before I fully let him in." "His subtle body language and cues feel like he is drawn toward me, and his eye contact tells me he does — but does he actually?" "I feel like I am not sure if he would choose me over someone else." "I don't think he actually likes me." "I wonder if I am actually important to him." *One dismissive action occurs* I knew it! They never liked or cared about me. Thoughts after the disconnect: "Did he ever actually care?" "I don't think I ever was someone important to him." "Was I ever someone to him or was it all fake?" "I wonder if he is thinking of me now?" "Did I feel different to him?" "Does he look into her eyes and wish it were my eyes he was looking into instead?" "I wonder if he is thinking of me in the way that I think of him." "Is he holding onto the idea of us, of what was or what could be?" "I never actually told him how I really felt." "Was this all in my head?" "We were never official, there was never a real foundation between us but it feels like I am saying goodbye to someone I once loved." "I feel fine and weeks go by, and then I feel this sudden longing for him of what was and what could have been." "It feels like we have dated and it feels like we have said goodbye to each other once before." "It's so easy for me to feel him again even after weeks and months of no contact." "Was I ever the person he wanted? Or was everything I felt only in my head?"

Synastry Aspects:

My Moon (and possible Venus) is in his 12th house.

His Neptune tightly squares my Moon.

His Moon and Venus are in my 8th house, and those planets make multiple aspects to my inner planets.

His South Node conjuncts my Mercury and Ascendant.

His Neptune conjuncts my South Node.

My Natal Aspects:

I have a 12th house Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Chiron and Lilith.

My Moon tightly squares my Neptune.

My Venus sextiles my Neptune.

Book a synastry reading with me or purchase my karmic astrology ebook that is curated towards 8th and 12th house synastry: https://myunsaidthoughts.gumroad.com

Months pass. No conversations ignite, and a sudden feeling of longing overcomes me—as if the story of us was something that just ended.

Why am I suddenly feeling this ache I told myself to let go of? We haven’t spoken in months, and all I somehow hold on to is the eye contact that lingers when my eyes meet yours. Something brings me back to you—a song starts to play, and suddenly it’s like I’m holding onto the parts of you I still feel.

You can be vacant from my mind, and I tell myself, It’s over, and I am okay with that. But we never even began. We never even allowed ourselves to see what could unfold if we both let our fears go. What if we had let our walls fall down?

The way your eyes linger, the softness in your body language, and the tension that rises the moment you enter the room all whisper, I feel you—and I know you feel me. What if I said out loud all the hidden wishes I’ve had for you since the day I met you? What if I confessed the longing that ignites every time my body realizes I’m not yours?

But I never have, and I don’t know if I ever will.

I feel the disconnect when your mind drifts elsewhere, and that disconnect feels like I’m finally emerging from the fog that made its home inside my mind. Then weeks can pass, and a sudden wave of nostalgia starts to overflow; is this from my subconscious or yours? Do I still linger in the back of your mind? Did I ever mean anything to you in the way that you meant to me? Are you wishing for something that never was? Do you compare me to everyone you meet? Do you try to find in others the feeling you only find with me— the one that still lingers inside you even when our eyes aren’t meeting?

I’m holding onto the feeling of being seen by you, even when those words—I see you, and you see me—have never left your mouth, and probably never will. Instead, I hold on to the words you whisper to me in my dreams.

You cup my face, kiss my cheek so effortlessly, and say, “You make me feel more than any girl I’ve ever been with.” Your eyes find mine as you confess, “You’re everything I want.” You show me your journal— pages filled with me, dates and entries tracing every dream you’ve had of us. You look at me, steady and certain, and say, “Even when I don’t act like I care, I do. I still think of you.”

In these dreams, I wonder—is it you speaking, or me? Are these your hidden longings, or my desires whispering themselves into me?

In waking life, I know you’re not mine. I know you won’t choose me, even if a part of you wishes to. And still, in these dreams, that truth dissolves, and the distance between us doesn’t exist. And I can’t tell where you and I begin or where we end.

I want to believe it’s your eyes speaking softly into mine, but fear and doubt seep in. What if it’s not you at all? What if these dreams are just trying to fill a void I keep forgetting exists?

And the cycle repeats. Our story won’t end, because it was never told.

In the blur of a crowded room, my body will find you, our eyes will meet, and for a breath, time forgets to move. Unspoken words and tension rise like ghosts, and then I’ll feel it— that thin, invisible thread pulling me toward you through the ache, through the space we never claimed.

And it lingers— the echo of what almost was. It’s always almost, and maybe it always will be— in another dream.

Synastry Aspects:

My Moon (and possible Venus) is in his 12th house.

His Neptune tightly squares my Moon.

His Moon and Venus are in my 8th house, and those planets make multiple aspects to my inner planets.

His South Node conjuncts my Mercury and Ascendant.

His Neptune conjuncts my South Node.

My Natal Aspects:

I have a 12th house Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Chiron and Lilith.

My Scorpio Moon tightly squares my Neptune.

My Venus sextiles my Neptune.

Book a synastry reading with me or purchase my karmic astrology ebook that is curated towards 8th and 12th house synastry: https://myunsaidthoughts.gumroad.com